RLPA Media Boycott

[eal]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-calls-player-media-boycott-over-collective-bargaining-agreement-latest-news-nrl/news-story/8c3ecffb174b49b6c3cbce93266fe98c

I'm guessing this makes international RL downunder even less likely this season. Tonga touring England is looking like a good decision at this stage.

Edited July 5, 2023 by eal

[lucky 7]

The RLPA and the players are not interested in Rugby League fans or grassroots Rugby League this is all about lining their own pockets and getting the fans to pay for it and forgetting the grassroots Rugby League they enjoyed as kids

[eal]

3 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

The RLPA and the players are not interested in Rugby League fans or grassroots Rugby League this is all about lining their own pockets and getting the fans to pay for it and forgetting the grassroots Rugby League they enjoyed as kids

They also aren't interested in increasing the earnings of minimum wage professional RL players, they mostly only care about the big names at the top.

[Number 16]

9 hours ago, eal said:

They also aren't interested in increasing the earnings of minimum wage professional RL players, they mostly only care about the big names at the top.

True. At every increase to the salary cap you never hear of the leading players declining higher wages so that those at the lower end of the 30 can get more.

[gingerjon]

Bootlickers gonna bootlick ...

[The Future is League]

17 hours ago, eal said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-calls-player-media-boycott-over-collective-bargaining-agreement-latest-news-nrl/news-story/8c3ecffb174b49b6c3cbce93266fe98c

I'm guessing this makes international RL downunder even less likely this season. Tonga touring England is looking like a good decision at this stage.

I hope they have read their contracts carefully and what it says about being available to talk to the media before the game, and half time and at full time.

[The Future is League]

17 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

The RLPA and the players are not interested in Rugby League fans or grassroots Rugby League this is all about lining their own pockets and getting the fans to pay for it and forgetting the grassroots Rugby League they enjoyed as kids

 

13 hours ago, eal said:

They also aren't interested in increasing the earnings of minimum wage professional RL players, they mostly only care about the big names at the top.

 

4 hours ago, Number 16 said:

True. At every increase to the salary cap you never hear of the leading players declining higher wages so that those at the lower end of the 30 can get more.

According to this the players union have turned down  37% pay rise. I hope the players are aware of this or has Newton withheld the truth from them?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/origin-blackout-nrl-players-to-boycott-all-media-over-pay-war-20230705-p5dlxy.html

[eal]

The prolonged CBA negotiations will no doubt lead to a cancellation of any international RL tournament at the end of the season. Any chance this could affect the Tongan tour? The Tongan team is essentially just NRL guys pitching up, I don't think the national body does much of anything.

I often think Rugby League deserves the status it has, the game as a whole rarely gets anything right and is incapable of planning long term on an international level.

[The Future is League]

A wise man once said to me read any contract from front to back and back to front and then read again. I don't think Newton has told them what the consequences could be with their actions. No doubt in my mind this is an ego trip for Bungalow Newton, and possible will result in humiliation for the players, but Newton won't worry as he will still be getting his money

[Damien]

What irritates me the most about this dispute, and previous other CBA agreements, is the negative effect they have had on the international game.

It is wrong the way the RLPA conflate what should be domestic demands based on a domestic NRL deal with demands and restrictions to the international game which affect all nations. Unless the NRL TV deal is going to fund these aspects of the international game then it shouldn't even be part of any negotiation and certainly shouldn't prevent nations playing.

[Gomersall]

2 hours ago, eal said:

The prolonged CBA negotiations will no doubt lead to a cancellation of any international RL tournament at the end of the season. Any chance this could affect the Tongan tour? The Tongan team is essentially just NRL guys pitching up, I don't think the national body does much of anything.

I often think Rugby League deserves the status it has, the game as a whole rarely gets anything right and is incapable of planning long term on an international level.

Like it or not the NRL have the international game by the balls. Of the nations in their immediate vicinity they control who plays and when. Sad but true.

[Mojo]

On 06/07/2023 at 07:57, lucky 7 said:

The RLPA and the players are not interested in Rugby League fans or grassroots Rugby League this is all about lining their own pockets and getting the fans to pay for it and forgetting the grassroots Rugby League they enjoyed as kids

Geez talk about not knowing what the RLPA are actually fighting for

RLPA are fighting for the players rights. The nrl wants to add more games on top of the 30 games per year that they're already playing and adding 2 more nrl teams into the league. And the nrl don't want to accept it. The players should have a seat on the table and have a say. They're the ones on the field playing every game.

The nrl also wants to take money out of the players funds to pay for the international games. Which the players rightfully declined. Why does it have to come out of the players funds? Nrl should pay for it. Outside of the world cup year, only 10% of the nrl players plays international.

Nrl are trying to look good especially with the help of the media and idiots like you are believing everything they say

[lucky 7]

5 hours ago, Mojo said:

Geez talk about not knowing what the RLPA are actually fighting for

RLPA are fighting for the players rights. The nrl wants to add more games on top of the 30 games per year that they're already playing and adding 2 more nrl teams into the league. And the nrl don't want to accept it. The players should have a seat on the table and have a say. They're the ones on the field playing every game.

The nrl also wants to take money out of the players funds to pay for the international games. Which the players rightfully declined. Why does it have to come out of the players funds? Nrl should pay for it. Outside of the world cup year, only 10% of the nrl players plays international.

Nrl are trying to look good especially with the help of the media and idiots like you are believing everything they say

You seem to be forgetting that the players have been offered a 37% pay rise, and that money needs to be found, now how much of a pay rise will you be getting this year?

[Damien]

I actually agree with what the RLPA are saying in this FAQ about the international game. Although it does contradict somewhat previous agreements that the RLPA made, such as Kangaroos players getting $20k a game, which the international game could not afford and which prevented internationals being played.

It does also confirm many of the complaints people have had on here about these NRL branded international matches and the smoke and daggers around them:

What is the issue with international payments?

The NRL have included international payments for NRL-run international series to be paid for by the players. 

That is a cost that has not previously been included in the CBA, primarily because it relates to employment for a players’ nation, not in the NRL. Now the NRL want those costs absorbed by the NRL players, for the same share of revenue (plus absorbing training wage, private health insurance and education costs that weren’t previously included). 

All NRL Players would be paying for international payments, effectively by reducing other benefits owed to them. The NRL wants to then take any revenue generated from those games without sharing it with the players.

This might be acceptable if the NRL included money from these matches in their financial forecasts, and in the players’ share of revenue. But they haven’t, and they’re not being transparent. The NRL have not shown players or the proposed competing nations clear financial detail relating to sponsorship, government funding or grants, forecasts for ticket sales or broadcast revenues.

They want to use money generated by the NRL and NRLW competitions to pay for all international matches they run and own.

The RLPA position (which we proposed to the NRL) is that there should be equal payments for all players from all Nations playing in these tournaments (including Kangaroos and Jillaroos). However, those payments should be determined and paid for by the money (sponsorships, broadcast, tickets, government funding) generated from those international games.

https://www.rlpa.com.au/faqs-of-cba-dispute/

Edited July 7, 2023 by Damien

[StandOffHalf]

16 minutes ago, Damien said:

I actually agree with what the RLPA are saying in this FAQ about the international game. Although it does contradict somewhat previous agreements that the RLPA made, such as Kangaroos players getting $20k a game, which the international game could not afford and which prevented internationals being played.

It does also confirm many of the complaints people have had on here about these NRL branded international matches and the smoke and daggers around them:

What is the issue with international payments?

The NRL have included international payments for NRL-run international series to be paid for by the players. 

That is a cost that has not previously been included in the CBA, primarily because it relates to employment for a players’ nation, not in the NRL. Now the NRL want those costs absorbed by the NRL players, for the same share of revenue (plus absorbing training wage, private health insurance and education costs that weren’t previously included). 

All NRL Players would be paying for international payments, effectively by reducing other benefits owed to them. The NRL wants to then take any revenue generated from those games without sharing it with the players.

This might be acceptable if the NRL included money from these matches in their financial forecasts, and in the players’ share of revenue. But they haven’t, and they’re not being transparent. The NRL have not shown players or the proposed competing nations clear financial detail relating to sponsorship, government funding or grants, forecasts for ticket sales or broadcast revenues.

They want to use money generated by the NRL and NRLW competitions to pay for all international matches they run and own.

The RLPA position (which we proposed to the NRL) is that there should be equal payments for all players from all Nations playing in these tournaments (including Kangaroos and Jillaroos). However, those payments should be determined and paid for by the money (sponsorships, broadcast, tickets, government funding) generated from those international games.

https://www.rlpa.com.au/faqs-of-cba-dispute/

Thank you for sharing this, Damien. Wholly reasonable by the RLPA, in my opinion.

[Anita Bath]

I wouldnt trust an organisation run by Mr Vlandys….despite his very effective PR machine.

 

Its the players that create the wealth…not the overpaid administration.

[Mojo]

2 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

You seem to be forgetting that the players have been offered a 37% pay rise, and that money needs to be found, now how much of a pay rise will you be getting this year?

Players ain't fighting for more money that agreement is already done. The nrl is trying to control the players fund without the players having a say in the matter.

[The Future is League]

1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

I wouldnt trust an organisation run by Mr Vlandys….despite his very effective PR machine.

 

Its the players that create the wealth…not the overpaid administration.

 

50 minutes ago, Mojo said:

Players ain't fighting for more money that agreement is already done. The nrl is trying to control the players fund without the players having a say in the matter.

 

8 hours ago, Mojo said:

Geez talk about not knowing what the RLPA are actually fighting for

RLPA are fighting for the players rights. The nrl wants to add more games on top of the 30 games per year that they're already playing and adding 2 more nrl teams into the league. And the nrl don't want to accept it. The players should have a seat on the table and have a say. They're the ones on the field playing every game.

The nrl also wants to take money out of the players funds to pay for the international games. Which the players rightfully declined. Why does it have to come out of the players funds? Nrl should pay for it. Outside of the world cup year, only 10% of the nrl players plays international.

Nrl are trying to look good especially with the help of the media and idiots like you are believing everything they say

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-pay-dispute-players-media-boycott-clint-newton-andrew-abdo-what-do-the-players-want-james-hooper-analysis/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05?fbclid=IwAR20RViYkiSjAcGTTKa-Oh1sj-J74E-0ELdSSohjLLgPFVHtbwU0iyeNLAQ

[gingerjon]

5 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

 

 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-pay-dispute-players-media-boycott-clint-newton-andrew-abdo-what-do-the-players-want-james-hooper-analysis/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05?fbclid=IwAR20RViYkiSjAcGTTKa-Oh1sj-J74E-0ELdSSohjLLgPFVHtbwU0iyeNLAQ

Shouty voice in client media says what?

[Gomersall]

1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

I wouldnt trust an organisation run by Mr Vlandys….despite his very effective PR machine.

 

Its the players that create the wealth…not the overpaid administration.

I think SL and RU disproves that theory.

Edited July 7, 2023 by Gomersall

[Gomersall]

DP.

Edited July 7, 2023 by Gomersall

[Mojo]

40 minutes ago, The Future is League said:

 

 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-pay-dispute-players-media-boycott-clint-newton-andrew-abdo-what-do-the-players-want-james-hooper-analysis/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05?fbclid=IwAR20RViYkiSjAcGTTKa-Oh1sj-J74E-0ELdSSohjLLgPFVHtbwU0iyeNLAQ

Is the article written by Hoopes supposed to prove something? He's a reporter that reports anything negative about the players and nothing positive

[redjonn]

Don't the top players get individual commercial/sponsorship deals.   Surely international and media profile adds to what they can negotiate.   I assume players take ihis into account when reducing international and media opportunities. 

[Anita Bath]

2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

 

 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-rlpa-pay-dispute-players-media-boycott-clint-newton-andrew-abdo-what-do-the-players-want-james-hooper-analysis/news-story/34213384ee0036839172b0d0dd3acc05?fbclid=IwAR20RViYkiSjAcGTTKa-Oh1sj-J74E-0ELdSSohjLLgPFVHtbwU0iyeNLAQ

Players holding the fans to ransom…what by not talking to the press.  Its what they do with the ball, not what they do with the microphone…thats where their skill sets start…and end.

[Pulga]

Good on the RLPA.

The average career is too short. Get what you can while you can.

Vlandys is an idiot.