Olympic Games: Paris 2024

[Hopie]

18 hours ago, gingerjon said:

It's been explained clearly, slowly, and repeatedly why this is the case. The BBC have rights for around 250 hours of live coverage across the whole Olympics. This is because the IOC did a continent-wide deal with Discovery. Thanks to the unique way the BBC is funded, and its membership of the EBU, it was able to negotiate slightly better arrangements for Rio and Tokyo but this is how it is now at the Olympics until 2032.

I think the set-up is terrible and the BBC would be better served doing a morning introduction and evening wrap up- and only being on air when they have live sport to show.

But there's no way they can show more things live so it's either discussion about the sport or no sport during the times when they have no live rights.

The tone of your reply has been covered already.

What I was pointing out is the editorial decisions about coverage have been not to my taste, particularly in the evenings.

I am aware the BBC have limitations but also that they said "we can show the two most exciting or important events happening at any moment live at the same time" and I emphasise the live part because they spend too much time showing replays and talking about events coming up, and events that have just happened, when there is live sport to be seen in the sport they are covering live at the time. That 250 hours gives them plenty of time each day, and I doubt they exclude the chatty bits in the athletics stadium from their "live" sport calculation. 

[gingerjon]

5 hours ago, Hopie said:

That 250 hours gives them plenty of time each day

To give an example, if all they did at the Olympics was show live athletics, swimming and cycling - nothing else - then they would go past that 250 hours.

The BBC coverage is not good. But they have no facility to show more live than they are doing. They can either have coverage that admits that or they can still act like they have wall to wall options. Their presentation is still set up as if they have wall to wall options - and that's the problem.

Anyway, back to the sport ... some more-than-decent athletics yesterday, the handball tournament has been top drawer, the men's football final was barking, and there was this at the beach volleyball...

 

[Mark S]

Break dancing? I had better moves at 2am on the dance floor at Majestyk in 1999.

[gingerjon]

45 minutes ago, Mark S said:

Break dancing? I had better moves at 2am on the dance floor at Majestyk in 1999.

It’s not at LA or Brisbane so this is likely to be it’s only appearance.

 

[Hopie]

4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

To give an example, if all they did at the Olympics was show live athletics, swimming and cycling - nothing else - then they would go past that 250 hours.

The BBC coverage is not good. But they have no facility to show more live than they are doing. They can either have coverage that admits that or they can still act like they have wall to wall options. Their presentation is still set up as if they have wall to wall options - and that's the problem.

Anyway, back to the sport ... some more-than-decent athletics yesterday, the handball tournament has been top drawer, the men's football final was barking, and there was this at the beach volleyball...

 

Yeah, as expected, not addressing my point, just continuing to argue against something I didn't post, and what I didn't post made you post that grumpy condescending reply, so you must enjoy reading what I didn't post.

[Futtocks]

An Australian breakdance competitor in action. Or possibly having some kind of fit. Either way, it's a distressing sight,

 

[gingerjon]

 

[Maximus Decimus]

8 hours ago, Mark S said:

Break dancing? I had better moves at 2am on the dance floor at Majestyk in 1999.

There is an Aussie lady calling herself Raygun who has gone viral for all the wrong reasons. 

She's so bad, I honestly think she might be a factor in it never returning. LA already hadn't picked it up and with it being in Brisbane in 2032, the Aussie memory of it is hardly likely to improve its chances. 

In all honesty it shouldn't be in IMO. It's one thing including judged sports like gymnastics and diving, where you are essentially judging technique and ones where you are judging which dance was better. It opens up the door for all sorts of other dance based events. And if dancing is OK, how about singing?

I feel like the 21st century is just one giant lesson where in 2100 God is going to appear out of the sky and say 'and the moral is less is more!'

 

[Maximus Decimus]

6 hours ago, Futtocks said:

An Australian breakdance competitor in action. Or possibly having some kind of fit. Either way, it's a distressing sight,

 

Beat me to it!

[Futtocks]

1 minute ago, Maximus Decimus said:

There is an Aussie lady calling herself Raygun who has gone viral for all the wrong reasons. 

She's so bad, I honestly think she might be a factor in it never returning. LA already hadn't picked it up and with it being in Brisbane in 2032, the Aussie memory of it is hardly likely to improve its chances. 

In all honesty it shouldn't be in IMO. It's one thing including judged sports like gymnastics and diving, where you are essentially judging technique and ones where you are judging which dance was better. It opens up the door for all sorts of other dance based events. And if dancing is OK, how about singing?

I feel like the 21st century is just one giant lesson where in 2100 God is going to appear out of the sky and say 'and the moral is less is more!'

Poetry and Town Planning have been Olympic events in the past. Some sports get their chance and really become favourites, while some fall by the wayside. I'd certainly bring back Tug of War - if you've ever seen it at international level, it's a pretty decent watch and doesn't need a large or specialised venue.

[JohnM]

I've been captivated by the Combined Underwater Bicycle Polo and Javelin Catching.

Mens Madison was carnage! Why hasn't the Netherlands rider who nutted our guy been sanctioned?

[Spidey]

12 hours ago, JohnM said:

Mens Madison was carnage! Why hasn't the Netherlands rider who nutted our guy been sanctioned?

Not sure about individual sanctions but the team did get disqualified 

[gingerjon]

So, Team GB hit their medal spread but with a drop off of the number of golds. Not quite the dizzy heights but also a pretty good return given that it feels like there are a lot more countries putting a lot more effort in at the minute.

Pretty fun Olympics overall. Pleased I managed to miss most of the BBC 'you will cry now' build up montages but that did mean I missed a lot of Michael Johnson, which is annoying.

And for the final moment to be the French women throwing a buzzer beater that would have sent their match against the USA into overtime, only for the player to realise as the ball was in flight that her foot was on the line and her perfect throw would be worth two, not three ... well, that's just the brilliance of sport right there.

[DavidM]

23 hours ago, Futtocks said:

Poetry and Town Planning have been Olympic events in the past. Some sports get their chance and really become favourites, while some fall by the wayside. I'd certainly bring back Tug of War - if you've ever seen it at international level, it's a pretty decent watch and doesn't need a large or specialised venue.

I watched the documentary on London 48 and I couldn’t believe art was an Olympics sport ! I’m with you on tug of war it’s a good watch 

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

57 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

So, Team GB hit their medal spread but with a drop off of the number of golds. Not quite the dizzy heights but also a pretty good return given that it feels like there are a lot more countries putting a lot more effort in at the minute.

Pretty fun Olympics overall. Pleased I managed to miss most of the BBC 'you will cry now' build up montages but that did mean I missed a lot of Michael Johnson, which is annoying.

And for the final moment to be the French women throwing a buzzer beater that would have sent their match against the USA into overtime, only for the player to realise as the ball was in flight that her foot was on the line and her perfect throw would be worth two, not three ... well, that's just the brilliance of sport right there.

A solid effort from Team GB, they were predicted to get 17 golds, so were 3 down but were 2 up on overall medals. Australia and Netherlands had cracking Olympics while France were predicted to get 27 golds, so were well down but overall they hit they're target.

France put on a great games and the crowds really turned out in force, similar to London.

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

50 minutes ago, DavidM said:

I watched the documentary on London 48 and I couldn’t believe art was an Olympics sport ! I’m with you on tug of war it’s a good watch 

I think they were part of something like the cultural Olympics which ran along side the summer Olympics, I don't think medals awarded were included on the overall medal table.

[Futtocks]

1 minute ago, Sidi Fidi Gold said:

A solid effort from Team GB, they were predicted to get 17 golds, so were 3 down but were 2 up on overall medals. Australia and Netherlands had cracking Olympics while France were predicted to get 27 golds, so were well down but overall they hit they're target.

France put on a great games and the crowds really turned out in force, similar to London.

There'd have probably been an extra velodrome medal in the women's Omnium if the GB rider hadn't crashed in the first race and lost so many points she never could have got to the podium. That's a genuine bad luck occurrence.

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

3 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

There'd have probably been an extra velodrome medal in the women's Omnium if the GB rider hadn't crashed in the first race and lost so many points she never could have got to the podium. That's a genuine bad luck occurrence.

Don't forget Amber Rutter in the shooting, gold medal shoot off, she was judged to have missed her target when the video clearly shows she hit it, there's so many fine margins which can go for or against you. Italy had 20+ 4th place finishes.

Laura Kenny has been getting a bit of stick, at the start of tack cycling she predicted 8 gold medals for us 

[Maximus Decimus]

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

So, Team GB hit their medal spread but with a drop off of the number of golds. Not quite the dizzy heights but also a pretty good return given that it feels like there are a lot more countries putting a lot more effort in at the minute.

Pretty fun Olympics overall. Pleased I managed to miss most of the BBC 'you will cry now' build up montages but that did mean I missed a lot of Michael Johnson, which is annoying.

And for the final moment to be the French women throwing a buzzer beater that would have sent their match against the USA into overtime, only for the player to realise as the ball was in flight that her foot was on the line and her perfect throw would be worth two, not three ... well, that's just the brilliance of sport right there.

It was also coincidentally the only time in the whole games I was cheering on France!

I've always felt our levels are a bit inflated after a home games but they're holding up pretty well. I can still remember Atlanta and feel like we'll be back there one day!

There were some great moments, but there's a bit of frustration in the number of close silvers we got. Josh Kerr and Matt Hudson-Smith spring to mind.

My standout moments were Keely (I was so nervous) and the mountain-biking.

[Maximus Decimus]

4 minutes ago, Sidi Fidi Gold said:

Don't forget Amber Rutter in the shooting, gold medal shoot off, she was judged to have missed her target when the video clearly shows she hit it, there's so many fine margins which can go for or against you. Italy had 20+ 4th place finishes.

Laura Kenny has been getting a bit of stick, at the start of tack cycling she predicted 8 gold medals for us 

I personally am willing to let her off for some reason.

[Futtocks]

One sloppy handover in the women's 4x100 might have lost another gold. Lots of "what if" stuff, but it did mean we were genuinely in the running for a win, rather than bringing up the rear.

I'd rather that than "happy to be here" pluckiness.

Edited August 11 by Futtocks

[The Hallucinating Goose]

I'm looking at the medals as the total overall rather than just the golds and if we do that then we are 3rd in the medals and of course USA and China don't count because they always run away with it and no one has a chance of competing with them so if we discount them then we were top of the medals table!!

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

4 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I'm looking at the medals as the total overall rather than just the golds and if we do that then we are 3rd in the medals and of course USA and China don't count because they always run away with it and no one has a chance of competing with them so if we discount them then we were top of the medals table!!

Thats the spirit , lets rank the medals like the Americans do 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

9 minutes ago, Sidi Fidi Gold said:

Thats the spirit , lets rank the medals like the Americans do 

I didn't realise that's how the Americans did do it but Clare Balding has just confirmed that as well!

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

19 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

One sloppy handover in the women's 4x100 might have lost another gold. Lots of "what if" stuff, but it did mean we were genuinely in the running for a win, rather than bringing up the rear.

I'd rather that than "happy to be here" pluckiness.

Its incredible that we didn't qualify a women's 4 x 100 team for London 2012, since then we've medaled in 2016, 2020 and 2024, and 4 out of the last 6 world championships, but you're right, they missed a glorious chance to win gold here.