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#61 RP London

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE (Pottsy @ Jul 20 2010, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks quite a tidy (three sided) ground.

Wouldn't meet Super League standards in terms of capacity though.

that seems to be a problem IMO with londo especially the areas that we would love RL to be.. the grounds are either too big or too small..

it would be a good move if Quins could buy into one though and the RFL helped them financially to build it up to scratch if they couldnt get the money aother way.. that would mean a good base, in a good area that they owned etc.. making them a more valuable "asset" for people to buy into.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 01:03 PM

I always like this website for looking at stadiums and capacities etc. Not all grounds, but pretty interesting, and has plenty of grounds I have never heard of. The French pages are good too.

www.worldstadiums.com

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (RP London @ Jul 20 2010, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that seems to be a problem IMO with londo especially the areas that we would love RL to be.. the grounds are either too big or too small..

it would be a good move if Quins could buy into one though and the RFL helped them financially to build it up to scratch if they couldnt get the money aother way.. that would mean a good base, in a good area that they owned etc.. making them a more valuable "asset" for people to buy into.


With the smaller one, there is always the possibility to add temporary stands Bath RU style.

Also if the football club is aspirational then a joint effort is good. In this case I would hope the RFL would be lenient on standards at least for a 3 year period (soemthing they shoud also do for newly promoted heartland teams when they bring back P&R)

Better that than the current sitch where they are playing at a dead-end stadium

#64 Pottsy

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (RP London @ Jul 20 2010, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that seems to be a problem IMO with londo especially the areas that we would love RL to be.. the grounds are either too big or too small..

it would be a good move if Quins could buy into one though and the RFL helped them financially to build it up to scratch if they couldnt get the money aother way.. that would mean a good base, in a good area that they owned etc.. making them a more valuable "asset" for people to buy into.


I'd agree with all that but, unfortunately, it's not something I could foresee happening.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (Lobbygobbler @ Jul 20 2010, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the smaller one, there is always the possibility to add temporary stands Bath RU style.

Also if the football club is aspirational then a joint effort is good. In this case I would hope the RFL would be lenient on standards at least for a 3 year period (soemthing they shoud also do for newly promoted heartland teams when they bring back P&R)
Better that than the current sitch where they are playing at a dead-end stadium



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#66 RP London

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:04 PM

QUOTE (Pottsy @ Jul 20 2010, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd agree with all that but, unfortunately, it's not something I could foresee happening.

no i agree.. thas the annoying thing.. there are ways to help and solve the issues but i cant see it happening..

I'm ignoring Lobby;'s post although good becuase of the little dig/comment bit with P&R..

#67 Pottsy

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE (RP London @ Jul 20 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no i agree.. thas the annoying thing.. there are ways to help and solve the issues but i cant see it happening..

I'm ignoring Lobby;'s post although good becuase of the little dig/comment bit with P&R..


In an ideal world*, I'd prefer to see London (not Quins - heave..) bcxeing given dispensation to play the majority of their fixtures at this kind of venue (perhaps with temperary stands as someone suggested), along with 2-3 of their bigger games 'on the road' at strategically chosen venues around the south-east (eg, MK, Oxford, Ipswich, Brighton etc)



*ie, not this one!

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 04:18 PM

With persistent rumours of Louis McCarthy Scarsbrook going to either Saints or Hull, Orr already gone, Stevo in LE repeating the rumours about David Hughes wanting to cut back on the piles of dosh that he puts into the club and Leeds apparently chasing Brian McDermott as McClennan's assistant I think we've other things to seriously worry about than where we'll be playing!

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 04:35 PM

if its a football team id suggest they talk to Orient.. nice little stadium, good transport links, some nice pubs nearby, 15mins from the M11.. and 5 mins from my house.. it has everything!

and Orient being the kind of club who are always hard up, they might be willing to listen..

http://www.worldstad...matchroom.shtml

10,000 capacity

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#70 Pottsy

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (EastLondonMike @ Jul 20 2010, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if its a football team id suggest they talk to Orient.. nice little stadium, good transport links, some nice pubs nearby, 15mins from the M11.. and 5 mins from my house.. it has everything!

and Orient being the kind of club who are always hard up, they might be willing to listen..

http://www.worldstad...matchroom.shtml

10,000 capacity
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Not a bad option. Which tube line is it on?


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 04:56 PM

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Not a bad option. Which tube line is it on?


Central Line.

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:16 PM

I often see a couple of former London Bronco's fans , East End boys at Neath on matchdays ,who say they just can't support the Quins and the club playing in Twickenham ,it just doesn't work for them.

They'd prefer ground sharing in the East End with a smaller football club in a more RL conducive area ,so Orient would probably be the best option on that front. I've often thought the same myself. Twickenham is a great idea in theory, but it doesn't seem to deliver as yet.

London RL just needs a permanent base though more than anything, It just needs to stay in the sameplace for 15 years or more and establish itself in the area, you've got to remember going from Charlton to Twickenham is a large distance in sporting terms , compare the comparative distance in Yorkshire!

Maybe they should go down the Union route where most of the top level clubs play around the M25 hinterland instead of the city itself, where the crowds have been better like Wasps.

Edited by cardifcrusaderrob, 20 July 2010 - 05:22 PM.

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#73 Lobbygobbler

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Chronicler of Chiswick @ Jul 20 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With persistent rumours of Louis McCarthy Scarsbrook going to either Saints or Hull, Orr already gone, Stevo in LE repeating the rumours about David Hughes wanting to cut back on the piles of dosh that he puts into the club and Leeds apparently chasing Brian McDermott as McClennan's assistant I think we've other things to seriously worry about than where we'll be playing!


On the contrary, "where the club plays" is absolutely crucial IMO. The club made a huge mistake going to Quins. If they'd gone to Orient 5 years ago and called themselves East London, or Leyton or anything else, I'm sure they'd be getting much bigger gates now.

They need to go where fans can be proud to support them. Sadly that has not been the case since the ridik Quins thing

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:20 PM

QUOTE (Chronicler of Chiswick @ Jul 20 2010, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we've other things to seriously worry about than where we'll be playing!

Really?

Players can be replaced more easily than a place to play. If Quins chuck you out or up the rent then suddenly it's much more serious to worry about. Plus crowds are poor and if anything falling and so the chance of somewhere cheaper to rent with bigger crowds is a huge deal

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:32 PM

a few amateur clubs springing up in the east now also (hainault, brentwood, Phantoms RL, essex eels) .. and only a 20min drive from the skolars on the north circular.. close to the motorway for away fans, or central line for anyone coming down on the train.

dont suppoe it would happen.. but would love to see it properly explored.

wonder what the name change would be if they did have to move..

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (cardifcrusaderrob @ Jul 20 2010, 06:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I often see a couple of former London Bronco's fans , East End boys at Neath on matchdays ,who say they just can't support the Quins and the club playing in Twickenham ,it just doesn't work for them.


I was a regular at Broncos games when they played at The Valley but, if I was still residing in London, honestly don't think I could bring myself to support 'Quins'.

Just goes agains the grain and doesn't feel right.


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:43 PM

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wonder what the name change would be if they did have to move..




Whatever the name, I'd like to see them continue playing in either the current quartered kit or the old Fulham black/white 'V' design to preserve a bit of a historical link.


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Posted 20 July 2010 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (EastLondonMike @ Jul 20 2010, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a few amateur clubs springing up in the east now also (hainault, brentwood, Phantoms RL, essex eels) .. and only a 20min drive from the skolars on the north circular.. close to the motorway for away fans, or central line for anyone coming down on the train.

They folded 4 years ago

#79 EastLondonMike

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:21 PM

did they?!.. who am i thinking of then?!.. sure there was another essex side.. oh well.. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 06:43 PM

It is interesting to read Stevo's now weekly references to the problems at Quins, as he usually seems to know what's going on there. You'd have to think there'll come a point where David Hughes can take no more propping the club up all by himself. Question is will the RFL stand by and let the club go to the wall? Surely if a new backer was interested they would've come forward by now. If no one wants to come in and Hughes wants out what can the RFL do?

As for the biggest mistake the club made being the move to The Stoop, surely it was ditching the Broncos name in favour of Harlequins. I know why they did it, but I really do think it's working against them. Whatever people thought of the London Broncos name, it was associated with RL - Harlequins isn't. Never has been, never will be.