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#21 MrPosh

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Aug 20 2010, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't think there was any need for this comment tbh. The only sport that will attract fewer fans from each team for a final than a regular game is football, and that is down to Wembley's capacity if a couple of big teams get there.

I'm not going to turn this into a Union thread, but that sport is exactly the same.

It isn't the same at all. Union's big crowd's are disproportionately corporate and much more bandwaggony, where as the Challenge Cup final is an event for all of the rugby league community - who turn out in big numbers for this event, no matter what the tie.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:43 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 20 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But imagine if Saints v Catalans would have been the final, nowhere near as many tickets would have been sold and it would not have been a great showpiece final that RL deserves.


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#23 Wendall

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE (ArmchairRhino @ Aug 20 2010, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Saints-Catalans sold out in 2007


Not quite. 84,000 were there that day but that was mainly due to the fact the Wembley had just opened and the novelty of the final returning 'home'.



#24 Dave T

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (MrPosh @ Aug 20 2010, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It isn't the same at all. Union's big crowd's are disproportionately corporate and much more bandwaggony, where as the Challenge Cup final is an event for all of the rugby league community - who turn out in big numbers for this event, no matter what the tie.
Agreed, but the point is the same. Clubs may get around 10k for a regular game in Union, but put them in a final and the whole town will get behind it.

I was addressing this from the point of view of the two finalists sets of fans rather than the RL community...


#25 trakl

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:07 AM

If the Challenge Cup final is indeed "sold out" then can the RFL not post an official "attendance" of 90000 irrespective of whether some of those "Club Wembley" patrons decide to stay at home or go elsewhere?

Are there not some sports in this country and abroad who would do just that?

After all, what more can the RFL do between now and the big day to ensure that everyone who can attend does so?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 20 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not quite. 84,000 were there that day but that was mainly due to the fact the Wembley had just opened and the novelty of the final returning 'home'.


Not that people actually wanted to go to the game then



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#27 MrPosh

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Aug 20 2010, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed, but the point is the same. Clubs may get around 10k for a regular game in Union, but put them in a final and the whole town will get behind it.

I was addressing this from the point of view of the two finalists sets of fans rather than the RL community...

In that case, I absolutely agree.

Interestingly, though, we do quite a lot of events and the like at work and I am on every hospitality mailing list - I have never once been offered tickets or a package to the Challenge Cup final (to buy, I mean, I'm not important enough to be given these things).

I could though, get a VIP package to the local mental hospital sevens at union.
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#28 JWAD

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:13 AM

QUOTE (MrPosh @ Aug 20 2010, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It isn't the same at all. Union's big crowd's are disproportionately corporate and much more bandwaggony, where as the Challenge Cup final is an event for all of the rugby league community - who turn out in big numbers for this event, no matter what the tie.

What utter generalistic tosh.

#29 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (JWAD @ Aug 20 2010, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What utter generalistic tosh.

OK rah,rah boy.
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#30 MrPosh

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (JWAD @ Aug 20 2010, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What utter generalistic tosh.

Why?
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#31 dallymessenger

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (JWAD @ Aug 20 2010, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thoughts? Where are all these spectators during the rest of the season?


the same place all the union fans are after the 6 nations.

#32 WearyRhino

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE (JWAD @ Aug 20 2010, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What utter generalistic tosh.


Have you ever been Justin? Or is this something else that you are a know-it-all on?

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#33 Futtocks

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:36 AM

Surely it can't be all that complicated to have a cut-off date for the Club Wembley seats, so if they aren't wanted by their holders, they can be sold off as a last-minute deal?

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#34 Dave T

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE (Futtocks @ Aug 20 2010, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Surely it can't be all that complicated to have a cut-off date for the Club Wembley seats, so if they aren't wanted by their holders, they can be sold off as a last-minute deal?
To be fair, these people/companies have paid for the tickets, if they want to decide at the last minute, then they are well within their rights to.

Trakl makes a good point, technically these tickets have been sold, surely we could announce a full house, although it doesn't seem too honest.




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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (terrywebbisgod @ Aug 20 2010, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK rah,rah boy.

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#36 Saint Billinge

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 20 2010, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course the the rugby league community accross the country always supports the cup final and what makes it a unique sporting event in my opinion.

But imagine if Saints v Catalans would have been the final, nowhere near as many tickets would have been sold and it would not have been a great showpiece final that RL deserves.


So is it worth the Catalans entering? A showpiece isn't just about the attendance, it's also down to the quality of the match. A full stadium could witness a dour final.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:02 PM

QUOTE (WearyRhino @ Aug 20 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you ever been Justin? Or is this something else that you are a know-it-all on?

Even if he hasnt been, im sure he knows people who have, and high up people who know everything about it.

#38 Lobbygobbler

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Aug 20 2010, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be fair, these people/companies have paid for the tickets, if they want to decide at the last minute, then they are well within their rights to.

Trakl makes a good point, technically these tickets have been sold, surely we could announce a full house, although it doesn't seem too honest.


Spot on. These tickets/sponsorship helped to co-fund Wembley

The 17k Club Wembley tickets have been paid for over the first 10 years, after which I believe that middle tier will go on general sale. So effectivly even if no-one turned up, the crowd would be 17k

Therefore it should be posted as 90k attendance. This is exctly what Union must do

#39 hindle xiii

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (Lobbygobbler @ Aug 20 2010, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spot on. These tickets/sponsorship helped to co-fund Wembley

The 17k Club Wembley tickets have been paid for over the first 10 years, after which I believe that middle tier will go on general sale. So effectivly even if no-one turned up, the crowd would be 17k

Therefore it should be posted as 90k attendance. This is exctly what Union must do

I'm interested, how would you cope in a stadium that is neither square nor close to the pitch like Wembley?

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#40 Odsal Outlaw

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:25 PM

Great to see an 'offical' sell out.

As for Club Wembley, I know I have been offerred them at work from a couple of agencies who are licensed to re-sell so it would appear there may well be the odd gap, altho my work have used ours up! A bit of a shame but like someone else said companies have paid for these so are within their rights to use/not use as they wish.

Its all warming up to be a cracker - withe Leeds recent injuries I reckon (hope!!) Wire might sneak it.
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