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#21 JWAD

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (James Vukmirovic @ Aug 29 2010, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was near what happened and what I could see, for what was pretty much the whole game before it kicked off, was a core of about 6 Leeds fans who seemed to spend their time yelling abuse at the Warrington fans, throwing obscene gestures and generally behaving like a group of yobs


Maybe they thought it was a soccer match?
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#22 Hannibal

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE (Wilderspoolmemories @ Aug 29 2010, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as has now been commented on,the trouble was started by Leeds fans,with one being led to the cells. The cup winners await your unreseved aploogy.

It's never Wire fans that start trouble though is it?

Hull, Wigan, Saints, all clubs that have been to the HJ Torturedome in recent years, and started trouble with the angelic Wire fans.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Warrington is a loathsome place to watch RL, and judging by the behaviour of "fans" with 4 year old kids on their shoulders at the match, we have generations of it to come.

#23 Wolford6

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 12:21 PM

I've been going to both Wilderspool and the HJ stadium, standing on the touchline terrace whenever possible. I'm a fairly vociferous spectator, but have never had any problems with the Warrington fans. I think it would be different if I stood behind the sticks, but that's the case for several away grounds.

The most obnoxious fans I've come across in over thirty years of watching were pre-Superleague ... at the Boulevard, Clarence Road and Post Office Road.

NB: I just had to look up the name of the former York ground, having forgotten it was called Clarence Road. Aptly, it was built on land originally leased from the York Lunatic Asylum.
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#24 Wilderspoolmemories

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:11 PM

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No doubt, once released, Wezza will give full details of what happened.....

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#25 Wilderspoolmemories

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Aug 29 2010, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's never Wire fans that start trouble though is it?

Not on the scale that you seem to enjoy claiming we do,no. All clubs have a few idiots which the club concerned and genuine fans would prefer did not attend. I have been offered a fight by a 15 year old Wigan fan in Wigan because I dared to walk past him on my way to the ground where Wigan pay Wigan Pathetic FC rent to let them play. He held a can of 2.5% ASDA lager in his hand,swayed from side to side and said "come on wire lad,tha won't know what's f@@@@@g hit thee!" I laughed and replied "there's one thing son,it won't be you" at which point he ran off! Did I tarnish all other Wigan fans with the same brush this neanderthal had used to paint his picture of Wigan and it's fans? No. You really do need to take a very big drink from the bottle labelled "growing up medicine."
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#26 no13benny

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 02:43 PM

What difference does it make who started it, it takes two to have a fight, either you rise to it and become one of the trouble makers, or you consider them to be the Neanderthals they are.

Personally, I don't associate with people behaving in such a way, even if I'm sat next to them, but I might slip off and tell a steward to keep an eye.

We're usually good at policing stuff ourselves, and these types are outnumbered by about 85000 to 10, so we need to make sure we nip it in the bud early like normal, such as, there's kids around here guys, we're all here to enjoy the game like you, and we appreciate you've had a few beers, but no one wants to end the day on a bad note so lets keep it in good spirits and enjoy the rest of the day. People are generally wanting to do the same, but they lose their way somewhere and need to be reminded, by everyone around them sharing that aim.

Am I wrong? Any better suggestions pls post as it's all for the greater good, and like someone said, you get it sometimes when a large group of people come together - there's more chance.


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#27 Hannibal

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Wilderspoolmemories @ Aug 29 2010, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not on the scale that you seem to enjoy claiming we do,no. All clubs have a few idiots which the club concerned and genuine fans would prefer did not attend. I have been offered a fight by a 15 year old Wigan fan in Wigan because I dared to walk past him on my way to the ground where Wigan pay Wigan Pathetic FC rent to let them play. He held a can of 2.5% ASDA lager in his hand,swayed from side to side and said "come on wire lad,tha won't know what's f@@@@@g hit thee!" I laughed and replied "there's one thing son,it won't be you" at which point he ran off! Did I tarnish all other Wigan fans with the same brush this neanderthal had used to paint his picture of Wigan and it's fans? No. You really do need to take a very big drink from the bottle labelled "growing up medicine."

Jeez, you sound tough, I think I'd better stay away from you.

I bet that poor 15 year old kid is still scraping the cack out of his low slung denims.



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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:09 PM

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my abiding Wilderspool memory is of some Wire fans throwing bananas at Ellery Hanley. I'm sure its not like that at the HJ.

#29 Matt J

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:22 PM

It was them Featherstone fans, dancing in that gay bar that started the trouble.

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#30 Wendall

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:34 PM

Okay so do you wanna know what happened?

Well basically it was Leeds fans who started the kick off by gouding the Wire fans who's end they were sat in! I am sorry but they had no right to be in that end behaving like that. The final straw came when the Leeds lot started throwing beer at kids and then it all kicked off.

Think the RFL need to better look into the ticketing policy, okay have neutral areas and mixed sections but the cheaper seats where you get a lot of cavemen should be one teams end only with no small groups mixed in.



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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 29 2010, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so do you wanna know what happened?

Well basically it was Leeds fans who started the kick off by gouding the Wire fans who's end they were sat in! I am sorry but they had no right to be in that end behaving like that. The final straw came when the Leeds lot started throwing beer at kids and then it all kicked off.

Think the RFL need to better look into the ticketing policy, okay have neutral areas and mixed sections but the cheaper seats where you get a lot of cavemen should be one teams end only with no small groups mixed in.

Surprise surprise, Wire completely innocent again.

Poor little lambs bullied by the big bad drunken Rhinos.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:01 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Aug 29 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Surprise surprise, Wire completely innocent again.

Poor little lambs bullied by the big bad drunken Rhinos.

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#33 Wendall

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Hannibal @ Aug 29 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Surprise surprise, Wire completely innocent again.

Poor little lambs bullied by the big bad drunken Rhinos.

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Okay got a picture of the events from above, will post on here for you to see in the next week or so.



#34 Jerry the Berry

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 29 2010, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so do you wanna know what happened?

Well basically it was Leeds fans who started the kick off by gouding the Wire fans who's end they were sat in! I am sorry but they had no right to be in that end behaving like that. The final straw came when the Leeds lot started throwing beer at kids and then it all kicked off.

Think the RFL need to better look into the ticketing policy, okay have neutral areas and mixed sections but the cheaper seats where you get a lot of cavemen should be one teams end only with no small groups mixed in.


They had a right to be in that stand because it was a Rugby League game. What they didn't have a right to was to kick off and abuse the fans around them - if this was the case.

I think Wembley may insist on some kind of ticketing segregation after this incident which in turn may create a 'them and us' mentality that we see at most football events. We - as RL fans - would never flock in our numbers with our kids, wives, mums and dads to Wembley if this was the case and it'd be such a shame.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 11:00 PM

QUOTE (Wendall @ Aug 29 2010, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay got a picture of the events from above, will post on here for you to see in the next week or so.

Look Wezza, you're close enough to get decent action shots, but can't put them up now, which just has us all thinking "photoshop time" to make them fit.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 06:57 AM

QUOTE (Wolford6 @ Aug 29 2010, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been going to both Wilderspool and the HJ stadium, standing on the touchline terrace whenever possible. I'm a fairly vociferous spectator, but have never had any problems with the Warrington fans. I think it would be different if I stood behind the sticks, but that's the case for several away grounds.

The most obnoxious fans I've come across in over thirty years of watching were pre-Superleague ... at the Boulevard, Clarence Road and Post Office Road.

NB: I just had to look up the name of the former York ground, having forgotten it was called Clarence Road. Aptly, it was built on land originally leased from the York Lunatic Asylum.
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#37 Dave T

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:06 AM

Not getting involved in the childish arguments, but it is always disappointing to see trouble in or around a ground. One point I will make is that I have also seen trouble at Grand Finals involving Wigan v Bradford and Saints v Leeds. Unfortunately there will always be blokes who can't handle their beer.

I actually thought the stewards were pretty poor, as you could see it was going to go off for about 5minutes. The fans were stood up watching it escalate, and only a few security blokes went down. Only a few blokes actually involved in the fight, but then you obviously get other people being knocked over, which is pretty disappointing as it could have happened in our corner, where I was stood with my mum and dad and my mate had his toddlers, and that's not good if innocent people are getting caught up in it.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:40 AM

we seem to have threads like this after either the CC or The GF. The are both unlike the FA Cup etc attended by none fans of the clubs that are playing. Its deemed as a dayout a bit of a p*** up jolly for alot of people who are not regular league fans. You can guarantee that when the beer kicks in they will not shout for the team whos supporters they are a sat with.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:06 PM

QUOTE (Dave T @ Aug 30 2010, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not getting involved in the childish arguments, but it is always disappointing to see trouble in or around a ground. One point I will make is that I have also seen trouble at Grand Finals involving Wigan v Bradford and Saints v Leeds. Unfortunately there will always be blokes who can't handle their beer.

I actually thought the stewards were pretty poor, as you could see it was going to go off for about 5minutes. The fans were stood up watching it escalate, and only a few security blokes went down. Only a few blokes actually involved in the fight, but then you obviously get other people being knocked over, which is pretty disappointing as it could have happened in our corner, where I was stood with my mum and dad and my mate had his toddlers, and that's not good if innocent people are getting caught up in it.


I'd just like to stress the point that I was at the GF when there was trouble and it was Saints fans fighting Saints fans. I've been to many games over the years regular and finals and I'm not sayig Saint fans don't cause fights, but from my experience of what I've seen with my own eyes Saints fans tend to annoy each other much more than the opposition. You can never please all Saints fans all of the time, even when winning 100-0 or lossing 100-0 Saints idiots can usually fine something to moan about with each other.

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I'm sure had I tod him to shut it and get on board he would have felt no quarms about venting his frustration in my direction. Yep some people it's beer, but for others even a positive announcement can cause them pain some people just like being miserable and will find any excuse to be offended and have an arguement or a fight.
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#40 Wendall

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 04:09 PM

Okay heres the picture of the brawling for all to see, courtesy of a mate of mines excellent camera work.








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