NRL new $1.7 billion TV deal with Fox Sports for 2018-2022

[tuutaisrambo]

Their Salary Cap will raise from roughly £3.3m to £5.2...........Obviously this is great news for the NRL and hopefully they will have more capacity to promote and grow the game internationally.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-04/every-nrl-game-live-in-new-tv-deal/6670190

 

But do we think that this will be good for British rugby league or simply leave us further behind?

 

Done a quick google and when you compare the salary caps it's quite scary.

 

NRL £5.2m from 2018 (currently £3.3m)

 

Aviva Premiership (English Rugby Union) £5.5m

 

Top 14 (French Rugby Union) £7m

 

Superleague £1.8m

 

 

[GaryO]

The leverage that the NRL will have and Union have and who knows what it will be come their next round of contracts has to be a concern to the RFL, Unfortunately for us - the speccies - and the clubs money talks, for the players if they can cash in on their skills good luck to them if they can secure their financial future.

If the RFL increase the cap or even go the whole hog and get rid of the cap altogether we have perhaps only half a dozen teams who will have the ability not to mention the finances to make any difference to holding on to their star players should they need to.

The imbalance in the SL will go much further than the Marquee player will bring in making the stronger teams that much stronger than the rest, which in turn could have a negative effect come the next TV contract talks through not enough teams having the ability to compete, we see enough of the same teams each week as it is.

[scotchy]

And yet haven't we had 2 clubs just declare 7 figure turnover? 3 declare a profit and 1 at break even?

People think we can't keep up with the other league, the truth is we are stood still waving them off and pretending they a couple of hundred more at the championships is problem solved.

We should peg our SC to the NRL, if you can't afford it, don't spend it.

[Manfred Mann]

And yet haven't we had 2 clubs just declare 7 figure turnover? 3 declare a profit and 1 at break even?

People think we can't keep up with the other league, the truth is we are stood still waving them off and pretending they a couple of hundred more at the championships is problem solved.

We should peg our SC to the NRL, if you can't afford it, don't spend it.

 

From what I understand, pegging the SL salary cap to the NRL will mean that the clubs with wealthy sugar daddies (Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield, Salford) and perhaps Leeds, would be able to spend as they wish, while the poorer clubs (Hull KR, Hull FC, Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, St Helens) will fall by the wayside.

[GaryO]

And yet haven't we had 2 clubs just declare 7 figure turnover? 3 declare a profit and 1 at break even?

People think we can't keep up with the other league, the truth is we are stood still waving them off and pretending they a couple of hundred more at the championships is problem solved.

We should peg our SC to the NRL, if you can't afford it, don't spend it.

And who could afford that Scotchy?

The reason the cap was first brought in was supposedly to protect the not so wealthy clubs from getting into financial trouble, and also to spread the talent available around, not to create a vast imbalance in a few clubs monopolizing the best player's.

[scotchy]

From what I understand, pegging the SL salary cap to the NRL will mean that the clubs with wealthy sugar daddies (Wigan, Warrington, Huddersfield, Salford) and perhaps Leeds, would be able to spend as they wish, while the poorer clubs (Hull KR, Hull FC, Wakefield, Castleford, Bradford, St Helens) will fall by the wayside.

if that is the case that is the case. It's unfair to have both P+R and a salary cap in my opinion. The structure of the sport demands results, we can't demand results then remove a clubs tools for getting them.

If you go bust, you go bust, if you fall by the wayside you fall by the wayside and someone else gets a go

[scotchy]

And who could afford that Scotchy?

The reason the cap was first brought in was supposedly to protect the not so wealthy clubs from getting into financial trouble, and also to spread the talent available around, not to create a vast imbalance in a few clubs monopolizing the best player's.

if you aren't wealthy enough to compete you shouldn't be in SL. The salary cap artifically promotes clubs beyond their means.

[tuutaisrambo]

I'd scrap the cap all together for Superleague........We have the richest teams winning everything now so what's the difference..........let them spend if they want to.

[GaryO]

if you aren't wealthy enough to compete you shouldn't be in SL. The salary cap artifically promotes clubs beyond their means.

Perhaps we should have a Super Super League of say 6 clubs "That Have" and let the "have nots" get on with it?

[tuutaisrambo]

Perhaps we should have a Super Super League of say 6 clubs "That Have" and let the "have nots" get on with it?

That's what we've effectively got now anyway.............nothing wrong with that............'The Haves' usually win but every so often the 'Have Nots' spring a surprise. no need to separate them out........and no need to stop the 'Haves' spending more if they want to.

[scotchy]

I'd scrap the cap all together for Superleague........We have the richest teams winning everything now so what's the difference..........let them spend if they want to.

exactly, we make no demands on clubs off the field anymore, why are we restricting them? When a smaller club doesn't even need to bother with an academy or decent stadium anymore what justification is there in holding others back to keep them competitive?

[Manfred Mann]

Their Salary Cap will raise from roughly £3.3m to £5.2...........Obviously this is great news for the NRL and hopefully they will have more capacity to promote and grow the game internationally.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-04/every-nrl-game-live-in-new-tv-deal/6670190

 

But do we think that this will be good for British rugby league or simply leave us further behind?

 

Done a quick google and when you compare the salary caps it's quite scary.

 

NRL £5.2m from 2018 (currently £3.3m)

 

Aviva Premiership (English Rugby Union) £5.5m

 

Top 14 (French Rugby Union) £7m

 

Superleague £1.8m

 

 

If these figures are correct then there will be few Australians and Kiwis playing in Super League in 2018. It will only be those who have been banned in the NRL (e.g. Todd Carney, Greg Bird) and those in their twilight years (e.g. Kurt Gidley) who will be in the UK. 

 

The implication is also that major English and French talent will be attracted away to the NRL, as has already happened with James Graham, the Burgess brothers, Joe Burgess,Elliot Whitehead, Josh Hodgson, and Benjamin Garcia, except it will soon become more so. The SL will end up losing the likes of Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Danny Brough, Alex Walmsley, Kyle Amor, Tom Briscoe and Zak Hardaker to the NRL.  The overwhelming majority of SL will be English and French players who are not yet stars, with the odd exception of homesick English marquee players like Sam Tomkins.

[scotchy]

Perhaps we should have a Super Super League of say 6 clubs "That Have" and let the "have nots" get on with it?

we tried that but a bit bigger. The 'have nots' got very indignant and moaned for years at being described as such. Apparently they deserve their season in the sun so let them have it.

That that season in the sun might consist of twenty odd pummellings is neither here nor there.

[roughyedspud]

Theres only a couple of clubs in the NRL that turn a profit...nearly half of super league do...

Im all for upping our SC abit to £2m plus marquee signing...but lets go mad to keep up with the NRL.. the NRL is going doing our premier league football route...silly wages off the back of a huge tv deal which is putting NRL clubs in more and more debt..

What was the story a year or two ago? SL clubs,all 14 of them,are in debt to the tune of £68m..which was the same as cardiff city fc..we aren't doing that bad all things considered.

[nadera78]

The salary cap (if we continue with one) should be £2.5million, with a minimum spend of 75%. If you can't reach the minimum then you really shouldn't be in the competition. 

[Allora]

Theres only a couple of clubs in the NRL that turn a profit...nearly half of super league do...

Im all for upping our SC abit to £2m plus marquee signing...but lets go mad to keep up with the NRL.. the NRL is going doing our premier league football route...silly wages off the back of a huge tv deal which is putting NRL clubs in more and more debt..

What was the story a year or two ago? SL clubs,all 14 of them,are in debt to the tune of £68m..which was the same as cardiff city fc..we aren't doing that bad all things considered.

 

 

The Clubs in the NRL are set up in a different manner than the Clubs here and get their revenue from different sources than we do, many have the backing of wealthy Clubs that are there to fund their team if needed.

 

Not too many Clubs seem to be too bad according to this article bar a couple of battlers.

 

http://rugbyleagueprofiler.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16485:nrl-rich-list-rating-your-club%E2%80%99s-finances&catid=35:latest-news&Itemid=90

[jannerboyuk]

Those figures are amazing. Effectively the grant from the nrl will cover the entire salary cap plus a million aus dollars on top! a nrl license should be a license to print money

[roughyedspud]

yet most NRL clubs lose hundreds of thousands...and millions in some cases every year

[roughyedspud]

Those figures are amazing. Effectively the grant from the nrl will cover the entire salary cap plus a million aus dollars on top! a nrl license should be a license to print money

the RFL grant pretty much covers our salary cap...it will entirely from next year...and our clubs don 't have leagues clubs propping them up...yet our top half a dozen clubs still turn a profit

[Copa]

That article is pure speculation.

[Saint Toppy]

I've always wondered why many of our clubs haven't set up leagues clubs in their home towns. Okay they're never going to be on the scale of some of the top ones in Aus like Canterbury but even much smaller ones with things like a bar, restraunt & gym could turn a decent profit.

[Exiled Wiganer]

It can only be a good thing that so much money will be available to pay leaguies. Presumably expansion would be on the cards, or at least further support for teams in development areas/nations.

 

I think we could do worse than grasp the nettle and have a massive hike in the SC (£2.5m?) and see where we go - I suspect we could be pleasantly surprised.

[chuffer]

The salary cap (if we continue with one) should be £2.5million, with a minimum spend of 75%. If you can't reach the minimum then you really shouldn't be in the competition. 

 

Hmmm....what could possibly go wrong

[sweaty craiq]

And yet haven't we had 2 clubs just declare 7 figure turnover? 3 declare a profit and 1 at break even?

People think we can't keep up with the other league, the truth is we are stood still waving them off and pretending they a couple of hundred more at the championships is problem solved.

We should peg our SC to the NRL, if you can't afford it, don't spend it.

 

Totally agree

[Manfred Mann]

That article is pure speculation.

 

 

You are correct. It is also unsigned, which makes me doubt it even more.