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People who drive up your ass then honk their damn horn when you make a turn, well guess what gustavo,had you not been so close I could smell what you had for breakfast, you would see that actually, I did f@@@@ng indicate,ass wipe

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23 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Biggest rant in years about the bloody weather.

We arrived in the dordogne on Tuesday and it's done nowt but pizz it down. It's only 62°f today n'all ffs....

Nothing a week in lanzarote couldn't sort

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49 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Best of luck, mate. Looking for work myself at the moment, and it isn't a great feeling.

Thanks mate.  I've not really looked for work since around 2001 and I really don't want to go back to self-employment, so a bit of self-development needed there then!

On the rant subject, the NHS really doesn't want people to have any residual good feelings about their job on redundancy.  Here's the things the HR people had to make sure everyone knew today:

You WILL work your entire notice.  You will not be allowed days off for interviews or job hunting without your manager's express written permission or if you take annual leave.

You WILL keep a journal of job searching you're doing that will be scrutinised and if you don't do enough you get no redundancy pay (it's a subjective test from the reviewer, no objective criteria for what is "enough").

You WILL NOT get your redundancy pay until AT LEAST four weeks after you leave and then you have to formally apply for it.

If you dare to get another NHS job within a month of leaving, you do not get redundancy pay, you lose all seniority and continuous employment rights and essentially have to suck it up starting again at the bottom of the ladder.

Oh, and they can offer you a job the day after you leave and you suck it up starting again at the bottom your continuous service starting at zero.

They reserve the right to offer you any job +/- one pay band they think is suitable for you, even in another location and whether you've done the job before or not.  If you refuse, even if it quadruples your commute while also being a demotion, you don't get redundancy pay and will have to take them to an Employment Tribunal to get it.

You WILL NOT be allowed to leave early for another job outside of the NHS and still get your redundancy without executive level authorisation.

The government had planned to bring in rule changes this summer to make being redundant even more bleak but that pesky election got in the way.  One of the changed rules would mean anyone leaving the NHS who returned within a year to ANY NHS job would be required to repay the entire redundancy payment.  If you were unemployed for 1 day short of a year and suddenly were offered a NHS job then they'd want the lot back.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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9 minutes ago, Donspaghetti said:

Hey ckn,that's too bad about your job,have a whisky on me,best wishes,don spaghetti. P.s your former boss is an ass

Thanks.  My boss is a good lad really, he gets a lot of leeway from me as he does things with the best of intentions.  He's a bit unhappy about losing me because he used me as his hitman, he's the passive introvert type and often would send me along to difficult meetings where he needed someone to hold the line stubbornly and bluntly against the creeping cuts people.

In short, he was probably my best boss simply because he trusted me.  All he asked from me was to see results and utterly trusted me to get on with the job, while he had to micro-manage some of my peers to get them to do their jobs.  He also wasn't shy about making sure people knew the credit was mine, not his, when things went really well.

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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10 minutes ago, ckn said:

Thanks.  My boss is a good lad really, he gets a lot of leeway from me as he does things with the best of intentions.  He's a bit unhappy about losing me because he used me as his hitman, he's the passive introvert type and often would send me along to difficult meetings where he needed someone to hold the line stubbornly and bluntly against the creeping cuts people.

In short, he was probably my best boss simply because he trusted me.  All he asked from me was to see results and utterly trusted me to get on with the job, while he had to micro-manage some of my peers to get them to do their jobs.  He also wasn't shy about making sure people knew the credit was mine, not his, when things went really well.

Much empathy

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21 minutes ago, ckn said:

Thanks mate.  I've not really looked for work since around 2001 and I really don't want to go back to self-employment, so a bit of self-development needed there then!

On the rant subject, the NHS really doesn't want people to have any residual good feelings about their job on redundancy.  Here's the things the HR people had to make sure everyone knew today:

You WILL work your entire notice.  You will not be allowed days off for interviews or job hunting without your manager's express written permission or if you take annual leave.

You WILL keep a journal of job searching you're doing that will be scrutinised and if you don't do enough you get no redundancy pay (it's a subjective test from the reviewer, no objective criteria for what is "enough").

You WILL NOT get your redundancy pay until AT LEAST four weeks after you leave and then you have to formally apply for it.

If you dare to get another NHS job within a month of leaving, you do not get redundancy pay, you lose all seniority and continuous employment rights and essentially have to suck it up starting again at the bottom of the ladder.

Oh, and they can offer you a job the day after you leave and you suck it up starting again at the bottom your continuous service starting at zero.

They reserve the right to offer you any job +/- one pay band they think is suitable for you, even in another location and whether you've done the job before or not.  If you refuse, even if it quadruples your commute while also being a demotion, you don't get redundancy pay and will have to take them to an Employment Tribunal to get it.

You WILL NOT be allowed to leave early for another job outside of the NHS and still get your redundancy without executive level authorisation.

The government had planned to bring in rule changes this summer to make being redundant even more bleak but that pesky election got in the way.  One of the changed rules would mean anyone leaving the NHS who returned within a year to ANY NHS job would be required to repay the entire redundancy payment.  If you were unemployed for 1 day short of a year and suddenly were offered a NHS job then they'd want the lot back.

FFS, that is shocking.

Sorry to hear about all this.  By best wishes to you for what they are worth.

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On 30/06/2017 at 8:04 PM, ckn said:

Thanks mate.  I've not really looked for work since around 2001 and I really don't want to go back to self-employment, so a bit of self-development needed there then!

On the rant subject, the NHS really doesn't want people to have any residual good feelings about their job on redundancy.  Here's the things the HR people had to make sure everyone knew today:

You WILL work your entire notice.  You will not be allowed days off for interviews or job hunting without your manager's express written permission or if you take annual leave.

You WILL keep a journal of job searching you're doing that will be scrutinised and if you don't do enough you get no redundancy pay (it's a subjective test from the reviewer, no objective criteria for what is "enough").

You WILL NOT get your redundancy pay until AT LEAST four weeks after you leave and then you have to formally apply for it.

If you dare to get another NHS job within a month of leaving, you do not get redundancy pay, you lose all seniority and continuous employment rights and essentially have to suck it up starting again at the bottom of the ladder.

Oh, and they can offer you a job the day after you leave and you suck it up starting again at the bottom your continuous service starting at zero.

They reserve the right to offer you any job +/- one pay band they think is suitable for you, even in another location and whether you've done the job before or not.  If you refuse, even if it quadruples your commute while also being a demotion, you don't get redundancy pay and will have to take them to an Employment Tribunal to get it.

You WILL NOT be allowed to leave early for another job outside of the NHS and still get your redundancy without executive level authorisation.

The government had planned to bring in rule changes this summer to make being redundant even more bleak but that pesky election got in the way.  One of the changed rules would mean anyone leaving the NHS who returned within a year to ANY NHS job would be required to repay the entire redundancy payment.  If you were unemployed for 1 day short of a year and suddenly were offered a NHS job then they'd want the lot back.

What the !!! ????

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

What the !!! ????

People in the know have been trying to tell that story to the world for ages now, no-one listens.  It doesn't fit with the persistent story that NHS non-clinical workers are over-paid, over-pensioned and given far too easy a ride for their lazy jobs so it's ignored.

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"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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18 minutes ago, hindle xiii said:

When you spend years helping someone and the one time you ask them for help they don't.

Yup.... I've fallen for it repeatedly.... sometimes from the same person. Essentially.... it's cos I'm a big soft sheeite n folks know it. I'll never change

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On 6/30/2017 at 8:12 PM, Futtocks said:

Best of luck, mate. Looking for work myself at the moment, and it isn't a great feeling.

Best of luck to the pair of you - hope you find something suitable soon.

 

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14 minutes ago, timtum said:

Best of luck to the pair of you - hope you find something suitable soon.

 

I'll second that. I was there myself 18 months ago; not a pleasant place to be.

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"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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On 22/2/2017 at 2:12 PM, Mark S said:

Chris Evans would be much better if he wasn't so obsessed ensuring no one is offended. He has become a typical Radio 2 safe pair of hands.

I am in my late 30s and have started to listen to radio 4 on a morning, it's pretty good considering it biased towards the Tories.

I started listening to Radio 4 in my twenties.  But I did feel I was listening into a radio station for other people.  I said at work that it was aimed at a more middle aged, middle class audience.  I no longer feel like I am only listening in, but then I am far more middle aged and middle class now.

As for the bias, it is for a rather cozy middle class audience and presents the world with that outlook.  I do not think it is a deliberate bias and I actually believe they try to be as impartial as possible.

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Joanna Lumley, besides being one of the smugest people on the planet, is pinching money. She gets paid for going on exotic holidays. All she has to do is gaze at a sunset every few minutes and say 'breathtaking', and it' kerching. Also she was a sponsor of that ridiculous London garden bridge. 

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My sister had a baby two months ago and I'm really getting fed up with having pictures of the cabbage patch doll sent to me. "I thought you'd like another beautiful picture of your nephew today, he gurgled something that sounded so precious I'm sure he's going to be the next Einstein" (a paraphrase but not too far off the truth)

I await news and pictures of him defecating a work of art or hand art pictures where she's just stuck paint on his hands and misinterpreted his vain efforts to get it off. 

I love my sister but, FFS, enough of the pictures of your offspring.

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"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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24 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Understand.  No one has ever had a baby before, especially a film or tv star or presenter. 

Those I can ignore!  I even did well to not know the name of the latest royal spud until two weeks ago when I overheard my wife's friend talk about it. 

Family can be awkward sods, if you don't show enough interest then they get all huffy. It's also hard to ignore being tagged on Facebook or having texts of pictures of the spud sent to me. 

"When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout"

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Bigoted right wing ar seoles at marché nocturnes who like to express their vile views on the French whilst sitting in a village square eating their tea in France.

The dordogne has more English visitors that most other regions of France. Given yesterday evening's experience I can see the French hoping brexit keeps us out

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8 hours ago, ckn said:

Those I can ignore!  I even did well to not know the name of the latest royal spud until two weeks ago when I overheard my wife's friend talk about it.  

Not only do I still not know it, I have no idea when it happened or who the parents are. I must be fortunate with filters in my ears and brain that shut that sort of sh*t out.

When did people start needing to swing out into the middle of the road opposite to the way they're going before turning left or right?

And when did people start cycling when taking dogs for walks? Just how f***ing lazy can you be?

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                                                                     (Well, we are about to be crucified on Good Friday)
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People who don't know when it's appropriate to use "You and I" and when "You and me" is correct. Including that annoying man on the Gladstone Brookes advert who gleefully uses "You and I" when it should be "You and me". Here's a tip for those who can't work out which is correct....take the "you" away and see which of "I" or "Me" sounds right. I bet you wouldn't say that companies have sold PPI to "I', would you? Yet this fool happily chirps that they've sold PPI to "You and I". Grrrrrr. 

Referring to aboriginal/indigenous Americans as "Native Americans". All US presidents have been Native Americans. That's because they were born there, that's what native means.

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8 minutes ago, Robin Evans said:

Ex pats who sneer cos you're holidaying on "their" turf

Fear not: they will be back in the UK soon. We had a referendum to sort out the immigrant problem, and it will surely work both ways. And did this really happen to you?

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