The General 'Toronto Wolfpack' Discussion Thread

[TboneFromTO]

3 hours ago, TIWIT said:

I really like this idea. Except there also has to be a salary floor otherwise some clubs will spend as little as possible and pocket the difference.

I don't think that would happen with the relegation possibility - would be a major risk

[JDINTHEHIZZOUSE]

im torn on the dispensation issue,where do others stand? I want twp to stay up,but could they maybe be given dispensation just for this season?my thoughts are that they spent way too much on contracts last year to get promoted and are now stuck with the contracted players,which plays a big part in this issue. If they are given the leeway for this season,would it be a % of the cap? or could another solution be to let them sign say,another 7 players on a 1 year contract?

[Moove]

If we'd have been asking the dispensation question back in October I might have been ok with it. In fact there's perhaps an argument that it should be available to all promoted teams to balance the lack of time they have to arrange a SL squad. But to be a week away from the season starting it doesn't really feel right.

Maybe if the dispensation is limited to a certain salary level per individual. That way they're restricted to backup level players to cover injuries rather than massively distorting the competition.

Even though I have some sympathy I can't help but think they knew which rules they were signing up to and should have questioned it back then.

[TboneFromTO]

10 minutes ago, Moove said:

If we'd have been asking the dispensation question back in October I might have been ok with it. In fact there's perhaps an argument that it should be available to all promoted teams to balance the lack of time they have to arrange a SL squad. But to be a week away from the season starting it doesn't really feel right.

Maybe if the dispensation is limited to a certain salary level per individual. That way they're restricted to backup level players to cover injuries rather than massively distorting the competition.

Even though I have some sympathy I can't help but think they knew which rules they were signing up to and should have questioned it back then.

They did in October November....I'll edit this post when I find the news story.

 

Edit: theyve been talking about it since late November!  https://www.cbc.ca/sports/rugby/sonny-bill-williams-toronto-wolfpack-rugby-1.5378693

[Moove]

1 minute ago, TboneFromTO said:

They did in October November....I'll edit this post when I find the news story

Fair enough then, should have been sorted by now. Just reading Elstone being critical that it's only being discussed now, guessing the RFL have been dragging their feet then?

[Dave T]

3 hours ago, scotchy1 said:

It would be ridiculous to complain that Toronto haven't found Canadian players in the one year they have been allowed to.

Just silly

 

3 hours ago, Kayakman said:

That is what I have been trying to tell him Scotchy but he just don't listen!  Produce Canadian SL quality players in one year...CRAZY TALK!

Hopefully you can talk some sense into him....its not that complicated!

 

There isn't any point discussing anything with either of you. I haven't suggested Canadians playing for TWP. In fact I've defended them and said it may be 10 even 20 years, I simply debunked the myths that Canadian players are quota players for TWP. 

That's literally all, but because it is deemed as negative to TWP you have both made arguments up. 

The Canada 7s idea is stupid, it isn't a way to build a Super League squad. 

Try reading what people say instead of getting furious about everything. 

[Kayakman]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

 

There isn't any point discussing anything with either of you. I haven't suggested Canadians playing for TWP. In fact I've defended them and said it may be 10 even 20 years, I simply debunked the myths that Canadian players are quota players for TWP. 

That's literally all, but because it is deemed as negative to TWP you have both made arguments up. 

The Canada 7s idea is stupid, it isn't a way to build a Super League squad. 

Try reading what people say instead of getting furious about everything. 

You say we should have/can have Canadian players...name one Canadian rugby player of SL quality which we could currently sign...give me just one name.....you can't.

You can't and therefore your point is moot...your argument is therefore also moot since it relies on this one point and this one point only...it is irrelevant in other words. 

I did read what you said, especially that personal insult you sent my way when I was just  trying to have a reasoned discussion...you hurt my feelings you know...you have yet to apologize. 

You can't always be right on everything Dave.

[JDINTHEHIZZOUSE]

9 hours ago, aj1908 said:

@KayakmanPack leader this was from the other day.  The young wolf is coming to get the old wolf 

awww,how cute,aj has a crush!!

[Man of Kent]

4 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

You can't always be right on everything Dave.

Dave is always right

Toronto need to develop players for their own sake, not just the wider game, so it’ll be great to see the ‘putting rugby balls in kids’ hands’ slogan become more meaningful than a mission statement on a website.

[Kayakman]

7 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Dave is always right

Toronto need to develop players for their own sake, not just the wider game, so it’ll be great to see the ‘putting rugby balls in kids’ hands’ slogan become more meaningful than a mission statement on a website.

You would not even believe the progress we have made so far...there is no stopping us now...glad to see you have finally come aboard Man of Kent...keep up the good work.

Dismissed.

[Man of Kent]

Just now, Kayakman said:

You would not even believe the progress we have made so far

Do tell. Evidence is scant

[Kayakman]

1 minute ago, Man of Kent said:

Do tell. Evidence is scant

As a new junior member of the Pack you follow orders..you don't give them...not get out there and play with that Rugby Ball..make sure it is in your hands for the photo little fella...thats right...good Boy!  Click.

There you go.

[Dave T]

31 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

You say we should have/can have Canadian players...name one Canadian rugby player of SL quality which we could currently sign...give me just one name.....you can't.

You can't and therefore your point is moot...your argument is therefore also moot since it relies on this one point and this one point only...it is irrelevant in other words. 

I did read what you said, especially that personal insult you sent my way when I was just  trying to have a reasoned discussion...you hurt my feelings you know...you have yet to apologize. 

You can't always be right on everything Dave.

So I explicitly state I don't think you should have Canadian players at this stage, and you then explicitly state I said the opposite in the very next post. That is bare-faced lying.. Mods always ask for proof when there are claims of lying - well they have it right there. 

I'll leave you to your lies, have a good weekend. 

Unfortunately, this is the level this board has dropped to around TWP, and it ain't the Leythers. 

[Dave T]

19 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Dave is always right

You can stay out of it too

[TIWIT]

1 hour ago, TboneFromTO said:

I don't think that would happen with the relegation possibility - would be a major risk

You would only have to outspend 1 or 2 other teams to hang around in the middle of the pack.

[aj1908]

6 hours ago, TIWIT said:

Competitive posting?

Half the likes I got were from him lol 

[Kayakman]

1 hour ago, Dave T said:

So I explicitly state I don't think you should have Canadian players at this stage, and you then explicitly state I said the opposite in the very next post. That is bare-faced lying.. Mods always ask for proof when there are claims of lying - well they have it right there. 

I'll leave you to your lies, have a good weekend. 

Unfortunately, this is the level this board has dropped to around TWP, and it ain't the Leythers. 

You are a very poor loser David!...and your logic in that first paragraph is well...to say the least...suspect.

Just admit you were wrong and we, as good Christian people,  can leave it at that....

And leave the people from Leigh alone...they have enough problems at the moment.

Put that temper back in your pocket you bad, bad boy.

[Kayakman]

2 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Half the likes I got were from him lol 

Don't turn on me now!

After all we have been through!

[TIWIT]

21 minutes ago, aj1908 said:

Half the likes I got were from him lol 

Including this one I see

[aj1908]

4 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Dave is always right

Toronto need to develop players for their own sake, not just the wider game, so it’ll be great to see the ‘putting rugby balls in kids’ hands’ slogan become more meaningful than a mission statement on a website.

Freshest bait on here 

[aj1908]

just what we need another late night sojourn from SL17.

this will be fun.

[PatrickB]

On 23/01/2020 at 16:59, NOS4A2 said:

They are not a MAJOR club. They are a rich blokes project. They do not have HUGE crowds either. They have good crowds. They will maybe one day have good crowds that pay to attend, but at the moment, they rely on freebies to a beer festival.

Speaking of the beer festival. Given this is a MAJOR part of the match day experience, I wonder how the Phenom with morals who won't wear the comp sponsors logo sits with the beer being the #1 attraction at games?

By the way. I am not calling or inferring you or anyone else is stupid for disagreeing with me. You are the one doing that.

What a load of rubbish. Yes... rubbish!

Beer the #1 attraction? 
Is a team selling beer at a sporting event a novel idea to you?

Just because we do it better than other teams, doesn't take away from the product the team has put on the field that has also been top notch for the levels we've been in for 3 years.

Also, I've paid to go to every home game for 3 years.

It's one thing to have an opinion, but you don't get to create whatever facts you want.

Maybe spend more time focusing working on your teams deficiencies, whoever than may be, than putting down a team that has been extremely successful, both on and off the field, given it's only 3 years old.

 

[TIWIT]

1 hour ago, SL17 said:

Well Leigh managed to beat Wigan last night. Under your illusions of what friendlies are! That puts them favourites to replace you.

Good game? What was the score?