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3 hours ago, RP London said:

The more i sit here and stew and think on it, the more I am done with the it.. If the sport doesnt care then why should i.. 

i've got irons in the fire with eagles about developing a couple of things with both work and the Rugby club i coach at.. not sure i can be arsed now as what does the game actually offer to the kids or to business anymore.. no national presence and this game is going to just retract and retract.

 

I know this isn't germane to the topic at hand, but just wanted to jump in and offer some support on this. You're right that this is a hugely disappointing decision, but most of the kids you're coaching are probably happy throwing a ball around with their mates and having a great time, regardless of the wider game issues. You (and all grassroots coaches) are doing a great job and it's an important job even if the national bodies are ###### around. Not just because you're teaching them rugby but because sport for kids is so much more than that.

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I think we have look at this in several ways before decision making.  

Last minutes decision by a national organisation.

The decision is the NRLs, not the Players.  

The Players appear not to have been consulted by the NRL.  

The Players Union, who were asked to act for the NRL to provide feedback on an international game (Denver) have been ignored on this occasion.  

The IRL have been ignored and shown to be a toothless quango.  Grant says he has been in communication with the RLPA but no mention of being in communication with the NRL. https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7353083/australia-nz-pull-out-of-league-world-cup/?cs=14274

 

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A disgraceful decision from Aus and NZ which has far reaching consequences for the whole of the international game. Both countries are sending athletes abroad for pretty much every other sport so their excuses are pretty feeble. 

I would say there is likely no option to postpone. That will invoke a huge amount of extra costs and Aus/NZ can't be trusted not to do the same thing again next year. The only options are to press ahead or cut losses and cancel completely. 

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We need to make sure the other Southern Hemisphere nations are still committed before we decide for definite whether this is going ahead or not. If they are, great, we replace the two who have quit and carry on. If not, we’re in a world of trouble. 

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4 minutes ago, zylya said:

I know this isn't germane to the topic at hand, but just wanted to jump in and offer some support on this. You're right that this is a hugely disappointing decision, but most of the kids you're coaching are probably happy throwing a ball around with their mates and having a great time, regardless of the wider game issues. You (and all grassroots coaches) are doing a great job and it's an important job even if the national bodies are ###### around. Not just because you're teaching them rugby but because sport for kids is so much more than that.

I agree.. problem is I'm coaching Union... i have been talking to eagles about a coaching session that helps with the cross over skills, lines of running, defence lines etc (how i sold it to the RU club).. with the other idea of introducing some kids to league with a carrot of a world cup to watch and the potential of a relationship down the line that could form between the two clubs... just handing the game to union though if there is no international element IMHO 

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Although the NRL is powerful if the organisation doesn't want to participate so be it. Replace them with teams that do. Would we like Aus and NZ in: Yes. Do we need them :No. Be interesting to see how Aussie Cricket side get on with Bangladesh next month. Unfortunately plenty of cases still in Bangladesh 

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4 hours ago, Lapsed Leeds Fan said:

And the story underneath is about rugby league aiming for the 2032 Olympics as a priority. The game won't be around in 2032 with decisions like this.

Aussies talk the talk about making Rugby League more international but can't walk the walk

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16 minutes ago, Scubby said:

We have to threaten legal action for compensation here. We also have to admit that the WC in 2022 is played in the British Summertime (June/July) if it is cancelled now.

Cancelled?  Why would we cancel and ###### up every other signed-up country's arrangements, hopes and aspirations just because a bunch of molly-coddled Aussies are too scared to travel.

Ignore them.  They would probably have won anyway (which can be something of a bore at best), which opens the door at last to Tonga, England, France, New Zealand (if they don't 'toe the Aussie dictat'), and every other mother's son on the planet who plays this game and is happy to get down off 'mummy's lap'.

 

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Maybe I am being overly optimistic, and hoping beyond hope, but I am really hoping that enough players, fans and people with influence within RL make their voices know and as a game we can get this decision overturned.

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A very interesting IRL statement here:

“Every sporting organisation, every industry, government and family globally have been impacted by this pandemic. RLWC2021 and IRL only recently stated that we fully appreciated the challenges facing us to run a successful Rugby League World Cup with player and officials’ safety our priority and we have met every request regarding this issue made of us by ARLC, New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) and the Rugby League Players Association (RLPA). All designed to mitigate potential risks and satisfy the demands of ARLC and NZRL.

“I have been in regular communication with the RLPA and a number of international players and coaches who have been satisfied with the world cup’s biosecurity arrangements and expressed a clear determination to travel to England and proudly represent their nations. They have expressed to me that they feel their own personal choice to participate or not in the world cup has been taken from them. The RLPA have again committed to continue to work with IRL and the Local Organising Committee towards a 2021 tournament including Australian and New Zealand players who have dual eligibility and who are now keen to play for other nations.

Statement from International Rugby League Chair Troy Grant regarding RLWC2021 (intrl.sport)

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I remember very well the L.A Olympics in 1984. There was a tonne of negativity before the games about who wouldn`t be there. The organizers ignored it and put on a great show. Once the events started people only cared about who was there.

Personally, I`ve been looking forward more to the women`s WC more than the men`s anyway. Assuming that goes ahead as planned, I would urge everyone to get behind it. Imagine what it could do for RL in the UK if the grounds were packed for the women`s games.

I`m more worried that our own government could have us back in lockdown by October with nobody allowed into grounds.

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I really think we go all out and deliver a huge festival of RL without these a-holes. 

I couldn't care about asterisks, or standards, I'll buy more tickets if it goes ahead with smaller teams stepping in. 

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1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Simon Johnson's wording is very, very strong 

I was unsure whether public battles was the way to go, but his rally cry has won me over! 

I think at this time it is needed and is certainly the right course of action to take.

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