DI Keith Fowler Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Sports Prophet said: Iām sure. Letās just try and get a RLWC arranged shall we. Ive been vocal about Australia and NZ having suitableĀ reasons to withdraw from this WC. Many disagree with, thatās fine, people often do. What doesnāt appear to be happening is an ARLC/NZRLĀ U-turn and I canāt understand how Indigenous and Maori teams will proceed, as interesting that would be. Best I can hope for as far as I can see isĀ the WC does get rescheduled to next year and cross my fingers that England are unceremoniously knockedĀ out of the FIFA WC following three straight defeats in the group stage, leaving the English public looking for a hero in the form of their RL team.Ā They'd do well to get kicked out before the tournament starts.Ā I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Screw it, get the maori and indigenous teams in, we have to go ahead and if anything it will highlight the selfish and stupidity of the NRL. Plus if New Zealand and Australia are sending players anyway they might just bite the bullet and say fine we will send teams.Ā Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, JM2010 said: I might switch to union. I'm sat watching Olympics 7s involving many countries. I can watch 6 Nations, Autumn internationals, SH internationals involving SA, NZ, Australia, Argentina, Lions Tours, Heineken Cup, World 7s circuit and a well organised, well publicised WC.Ā It's hard to see any future for professionalĀ RL in the UK if the World Cup isn't going to happen ever again. If I owned one of the bigger clubs, I'd be seriously looking at non-league soccer or opportunities in the yawnion pyramid at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, JonM said: It's hard to see any future for professionalĀ RL in the UK if the World Cup isn't going to happen ever again. If I owned one of the bigger clubs, I'd be seriously looking at non-league soccer or opportunities in the yawnion pyramid at this point. But really who would Union take? Leeds, maybe Hull. League needs to grow so the likes of Wigan and Saints can survive . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Iām sure. Letās just try and get a RLWC arranged shall we. Ive been vocal about Australia and NZ having suitableĀ reasons to withdraw from this WC. Many disagree with, thatās fine, people often do. What doesnāt appear to be happening is an ARLC/NZRLĀ U-turn and I canāt understand how Indigenous and Maori teams will proceed, as interesting that would be. Best I can hope for as far as I can see isĀ the WC does get rescheduled to next year and cross my fingers that England are unceremoniously knockedĀ out of the FIFA WC following three straight defeats in the group stage, leaving the English public looking for a hero in the form of their RL team.Ā but that wouldnt solve it as the RLWC happens before the FIFA World Cup which is the big problem.. it will get lost in the build up to the FiFA world cup and the whos injured whos not that will be the back pages of the papers in the run up.Ā If it happens it needs to happen this year, if it happens next year i get the feeling it will be a pointless damp squib, more so than it happening this year with indigenous teams or invitation xiii or even bringing in the next qualifiers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RP London said: but that wouldnt solve it as the RLWC happens before the FIFA World Cup which is the big problem.. it will get lost in the build up to the FiFA world cup and the whos injured whos not that will be the back pages of the papers in the run up.Ā If it happens it needs to happen this year, if it happens next year i get the feeling it will be a pointless damp squib, more so than it happening this year with indigenous teams or invitation xiii or even bringing in the next qualifiers. Yep, next year you can look forward to zero coverage, exposure or sponsors... Plus the game needs a boost this year to re-engage our lapsing fans for tickets and sales next year.Ā Edited July 29, 2021 by ShropshireBull 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, RP London said: but that wouldnt solve it as the RLWC happens before the FIFA World Cup which is the big problem.. it will get lost in the build up to the FiFA world cup and the whos injured whos not that will be the back pages of the papers in the run up.Ā If it happens it needs to happen this year, if it happens next year i get the feeling it will be a pointless damp squib, more so than it happening this year with indigenous teams or invitation xiii or even bringing in the next qualifiers. Launching 2023Ā with a FebĀ RLWC would be better. If anything, end of season is probably my least favourite time for internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Launching 2023Ā with a FebĀ RLWC would be better. If anything, end of season is probably my least favourite time for internationals. Yep up against the 6 Nations RU would be good Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Scubby said: Yep up against the 6 Nations RU would be good Ā xxxx the Six Nations. Not like they play that on consecutive weekendsĀ anyway is it? What a great way to demonstrate to the neutrals the difference between the two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/29/smith-says-players-should-have-been-consulted-with-world-cup-call/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 This morning's press conference is on Chasing Kangaroos: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/bonus-world-cup-emergency-press-conference/id1441882710?i=1000530387116 Heavy emphasis on the player engagement currently underway being the key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Launching 2023Ā with a FebĀ RLWC would be better. If anything, end of season is probably my least favourite time for internationals. terrible idea.. the point of end of season is the players are all "in the groove" a pre season world cup would be woeful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matterhorn Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Sports Prophet said: Thatās a very telling statistic.Ā Where is that quote from @Matterhorn? Its through all online publications that have bothered to report on the world cup. A recent survey showed 75 per cent of players consulted by Australiaās players union were still happy to travel to England to play in the World Cup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: xxxx the Six Nations. Not like they play that on consecutive weekendsĀ anyway is it? What a great way to demonstrate to the neutrals the difference between the two. In the UK the RLWC would not get a look in. Remember the BBC this autumn were committedĀ to televising every single game on its platform - including women's and wheelchair - the most live games ever. The UK government put in A$40m - that is 5x what the Queensland govt paid for SOO. Not happening in 2021Ā will destroy the game in this country and basically bankrupt international RL going forward. Edited July 29, 2021 by Scubby 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Gordon Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I see that a couple of the NRLW players are playing union at the Olympics. Not sure what to make of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gomersall said: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/29/smith-says-players-should-have-been-consulted-with-world-cup-call/ Encouraging, everyĀ current or recent Kangaroo or Kiwi who has spoken out seems to be saying let players come if they want to. Cam Smith saying the same probably gets the NRL referees on board too.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonrlfan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Launching 2023Ā with a FebĀ RLWC would be better. If anything, end of season is probably my least favourite time for internationals. Why can't we just play it without Aus/NZ? Are we admitting they're bigger than the sport? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said: I see that a couple of the NRLW players are playing union at the Olympics. Not sure what to make of that. They want to represent Australia on the big stage as opposed to staying at home and being patronised by the NRL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Matterhorn said: Its through all online publications that have bothered to report on the world cup. A recent survey showed 75 per cent of players consulted by Australiaās players union were still happy to travel to England to play in the World Cup. The quote I have regularly seenĀ is 75% of players polled by IRL. Nothing to do with Australians specifically and I canāt remember how many were polled or if it was reported. 4? 24? 124? But if you have an alternate quote, then as I said, a telling stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, londonrlfan said: Why can't we just play it without Aus/NZ? Are we admitting they're bigger than the sport? They're not bigger than the sport, but they're an enormous part of international RL. That's why their absence causes such a big problem. We might still decide to play without them, but it's not a decision that can be arrived at without a great deal of careful consideration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonrlfan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said: I see that a couple of the NRLW players are playing union at the Olympics. Not sure what to make of that. RL hasĀ made it to the Olympics then.Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, londonrlfan said: Why can't we just play it without Aus/NZ? Are we admitting they're bigger than the sport? Well, I would probably watch it, but I wouldnāt be too engaged.Ā edit* - see next post No reason why not in theory.Ā Ā Edited July 29, 2021 by Sports Prophet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Well, I would probably watch it, but I wouldnāt be too engaged.Ā No reason why not in theory.Ā Correction, I would be engaged in it and keen to watch it all. Plenty who wouldnāt though. Many of those probably werenāt gonna watch anyway, so not much lost. Edited July 29, 2021 by Sports Prophet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonrlfan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Sports Prophet said: Well, I would probably watch it, but I wouldnāt be too engaged.Ā No reason why not in theory.Ā Tonga and Samoa would be even stronger and would be worthy winners. As would Fiji. If England can beat Tonga/Samoa stacked with Aus/NZ interntionals, I don't see why it would be devalued.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonrlfan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 If it was up to me, I'dĀ continue on without them for 2021 and then ban them from 2025 as punishment.Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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