2-point deduction and £10,000 fine.

[Rarefrith]

Brings Halifax a lot closer to us now, The home game with them could be a top 2 decider. 

[The Phantom Horseman]

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/35794/points-deduction-and-fine-for-featherstone-rovers--

 

The club's response
https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-rfl-investigation-h6mkE

My view, this has been hanging over us for a long time, we accept the punishment, move on, and concentrate on solidifying that top 2 spot.

[lingaro]

Bloody garbage.  

[gazza77]

 

13 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/35794/points-deduction-and-fine-for-featherstone-rovers--

 

The club's response
https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-rfl-investigation-h6mkE

My view, this has been hanging over us for a long time, we accept the punishment, move on, and concentrate on solidifying that top 2 spot.

Agreed. Imagine how frustrating it would have been had we won on Sunday, only to have a win deducted from our total within 48 hours for this. 

[The Phantom Horseman]

3 minutes ago, gazza77 said:

 

Agreed. Imagine how frustrating it would have been had we won on Sunday, only to have a win deducted from our total within 48 hours for this. 

That was my first thought too.

I don't think this was a good episode for the club and I hope we now draw a line under it and move on.

[Bulls2487]

23 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

https://www.rugby-league.com/article/35794/points-deduction-and-fine-for-featherstone-rovers--

 

The club's response
https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-rfl-investigation-h6mkE

My view, this has been hanging over us for a long time, we accept the punishment, move on, and concentrate on solidifying that top 2 spot.

Alleged social gathering?. Poor choice of words that especially when the police have CCTV and pictures were on social media.

[Monkeymagic22]

Think we need to accept this and move on. 

[sentoffagain2]

   Less said the better so for once i won't put in my twopennyworth.!

[marklaspalmas]

1 hour ago, Rarefrith said:

Brings Halifax a lot closer to us now, The home game with them could be a top 2 decider. 

How so?

Percentage wise, quite a lot would have no happen between here and September for that to be the case.

[marklaspalmas]

1 hour ago, gazza77 said:

 

Agreed. Imagine how frustrating it would have been had we won on Sunday, only to have a win deducted from our total within 48 hours for this. 

Again, as it's a percentage, how would it have affected a win yesterday at all? 100% is 100%.

[The Phantom Horseman]

2 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

Again, as it's a percentage, how would it have affected a win yesterday at all? 100% is 100%.

They would have still worked the percentage out based on the 2-point deduction. For instance our actual winning percentage this season is 92.86% but because of the 2 point deduction it's now showing on the RFL league table as 85.71%.

[The Phantom Horseman]

In other words, our % points is 24 out of a possible 28, expressed as a percentage.

[gazza77]

9 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

Again, as it's a percentage, how would it have affected a win yesterday at all? 100% is 100%.

The deduction has impacted on our percentage. We'd be at over 90% with one loss otherwise, and had we won on Sunday, we'd no longer be at 100% following this ruling. 

Edit: beaten to it by TPH. 

 

[marklaspalmas]

Just now, gazza77 said:

The deduction has impacted on our percentage. We'd be at over 90% with one loss otherwise, and had we won on Sunday, we'd no longer be at 100% following this ruling. 

 

That is not my understanding.

We have had a win deducted, not a loss imposed.

14 wins from 14 or 13 wins from 13 is still 100% had we won yesterday.

13 wins and a loss at 92.86% is now 12 wins and a loss which is 92.3%.

[marklaspalmas]

4 minutes ago, gazza77 said:

The deduction has impacted on our percentage. We'd be at over 90% with one loss otherwise, and had we won on Sunday, we'd no longer be at 100% following this ruling. 

Edit: beaten to it by TPH. 

 

Sorry, Ive just seen TPH post too. My apologies.

In that case, they have recorded our win as a loss.

[gazza77]

Just now, marklaspalmas said:

Sorry, Ive just seen TPH post too. My apologies.

In that case, they have recorded our win as a loss.

No worries, I can understand why you'd have thought that. 

[The Phantom Horseman]

3 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

That is not my understanding.

We have had a win deducted, not a loss imposed.

14 wins from 14 or 13 wins from 13 is still 100% had we won yesterday.

13 wins and a loss at 92.86% is now 12 wins and a loss which is 92.3%.

We've been deducted two points, not a win. I know that sounds like semantics, but the final % tally that decides standings is based on points, not wins (even though we have kind of been told that points don't exist any more!).

[marklaspalmas]

I wonder of Batley have a case for claiming the points.

Most irregular to have a fixture where both teams lost.

[marklaspalmas]

Just now, The Phantom Horseman said:

We've been deducted two points, not a win. I know that sounds like semantics, but the final % tally that decides standings is based on points, not wins (even though we have kind of been told that points don't exist any more!).

It is semantics, isn't it? If the game counts as "Played" by us, but we got zero points, it's a loss as far as calculating percentages is concerned.

But yes, I accept your point.

[sentoffagain2]

11 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

In other words, our % points is 24 out of a possible 28, expressed as a percentage.

Yes way i did it was 100 divided by 28 = 3.571   and then multiply 24 by 3.571=85.70

[J Phil Loxton]

Assuming Fev were guilty and had accepted guilt on the day it happened then it probably would have resulted in us not been able to field a side against them. So in actual fact wouldn't Batley have been awarded a 24-0 victory?? The mind boggles

[gittinsfan]

16 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said:

I wonder of Batley have a case for claiming the points.

Most irregular to have a fixture where both teams lost.

If those 12 players were not allowed to play,presumably the game would have been cancelled because Fev had so many players out under covid rules.

Batley should not be awarded the points,but I think there is an argument for the table to show it as a game not played in Batley's case.

[distantdog]

8 minutes ago, gittinsfan said:

If those 12 players were not allowed to play,presumably the game would have been cancelled because Fev had so many players out under covid rules.

Batley should not be awarded the points,but I think there is an argument for the table to show it as a game not played in Batley's case.

I think this is right. We didn't win so should not receive the points or %, but if the win is removed from Fev's record the loss should be removed from ours.

[Rarefrith]

A lot more pressure on Fev now. Fax are 8 wins a row. Still both got some tricky fixtures. We need to finish top 2 for better chance of grand final and if Top 2 places are given promotion should the new structure be agreed. 

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

The RFL have stated that 'win%' is calculated as the % of points you have from the total you could have got (with the usual 2pts for a win, 1pt for a draw) - see also London having 2pts deducted for not travelling to Toulouse