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3 hours ago, DC77 said:

 

Wales ain’t a “rugby country”. It’s about even with football and RU in regards to participation and viewership. The only difference is the national RU team garners a higher profile as it’s competitive being in a very small competitive field. Prior to 2016 the Wales football team hadn’t qualified for a major tournament since 1958 (John Charles era), and in that time they’ve had world class players like Ian Rush, Mark Hughes, Ryan Giggs, Neville Southall. The RU team meanwhile doesn’t have to do any qualifying, and in the tournament itself they are already in the quarters (unless they are the odd man out and get the group with 3 good teams). Win your first competitive game in the quarters and you find yourself in the semi. This can give the illusion of an imbalance between RU and football, the reality is different.

It’s certainly a RU country, which is why I think RL will only ever be feeding on crumbs there, which is more than South Africa. RL is banjaxed in countries where RU is embedded into the national consciousness (and vice versa). NZ is the only country where there is some overlap, although it’s still very heavily weighted towards RU.

The union qualification isnt like that.

Wales knocked England out of their own tournament at the group stage.

Football only has 2 pro clubs in Wales. 

The national sport of Wales is rugby

Keep the myths coming haha

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On 23/08/2021 at 10:20, Saint Toppy said:

Who cares, your still talking out your arris wanting to scrap / merge all the existing English SL clubs but keep a small town french club and a french championship club.

Here's a better idea, why dont the french form their own SL and you can have as many small town or regional clubs as you like and let the English have a format thats best suited to them. Then maybe, just maybe one day you'll actually have french clubs full of french players and be able to produce a National team that can offer the English some viable opposition.

Who cares? You, apparently. You were the one who called Toulouse a "small town". I guess there must be a few"hamlets" in Super League then lol. 

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19 minutes ago, yipyee said:

It so isnt.

Its the only place in the UK that primary schools have rugby posts

Never been to Wigan then

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32 minutes ago, yipyee said:

If it is then feel free to correct me

R L HUGHES PRIMARY SCHOOL
Mayfield Street
Ashton-in-Makerfield

Wigan
WN4 9QL

 

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  • Grass Pitches - Junior Rugby League

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24 minutes ago, Padge said:

R L HUGHES PRIMARY SCHOOL
Mayfield Street
Ashton-in-Makerfield

Wigan
WN4 9QL

 

The site has the following facilities:

  • Grass Pitches - Junior Rugby League

That doesnt have RL posts up, they have football pitches a local side play on ..ashton park..

I have been there have you?

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8 minutes ago, yipyee said:

That doesnt have RL posts up, they have football pitches a local side play on ..ashton park..

I have been there have you?

Many fields have interchangeable posts, I know that, do you.

Would you believe they actually change them at a lot of professional clubs as well.

I was involved in a Sport England sports facilities survey, what was your involvement.

 

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6 hours ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

You serious?

You tell me what in your little world the national sport of wales is as in the real world its rugby union.

The soccer national team even play games in swansea etc as they cant fill the national stadium.

Have you even been to wales? Do you know any welsh people?

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13 hours ago, yipyee said:

Football only has 2 pro clubs in Wales. 

I mean you're half right. In that the number of full time professional football clubs is double that.

And it has more football clubs than rugby clubs.

More football players than rugby players.

And more people watch football than watch rugby.

But, other than that, good job. Da iawn.

 

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7 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I mean you're half right. In that the number of full time professional football clubs is double that.

And it has more football clubs than rugby clubs.

More football players than rugby players.

And more people watch football than watch rugby.

But, other than that, good job. Da iawn.

 

If your counting participation numbers that includes 5 a side and walking football etc.. 

Rugby is more popular than football as many football fans (in general) say they support a team when its just a popular thing to say. For example if you say what music dp you like, but then most people will have never gone to watch the bands or acts they reem off. Same with soccer.

With rugby people will only say they are a fan if they are.

Now you can pretend that soccer is more popular however if it was in the real world it would be the national sport! 

The purpose of defining a national sport is that its the most popular.

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2 minutes ago, yipyee said:

If your counting participation numbers that includes 5 a side and walking football etc.. 

Rugby is more popular than football as many football fans (in general) say they support a team when its just a popular thing to say. For example if you say what music dp you like, but then most people will have never gone to watch the bands or acts they reem off. Same with soccer.

With rugby people will only say they are a fan if they are.

Now you can pretend that soccer is more popular however if it was in the real world it would be the national sport! 

The purpose of defining a national sport is that its the most popular.

That's a pretty sweeping statement whatever the conversation? 😕  

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2 minutes ago, yipyee said:

If your counting participation numbers that includes 5 a side and walking football etc.. 

Rugby is more popular than football as many football fans (in general) say they support a team when its just a popular thing to say. For example if you say what music dp you like, but then most people will have never gone to watch the bands or acts they reem off. Same with soccer.

With rugby people will only say they are a fan if they are.

Now you can pretend that soccer is more popular however if it was in the real world it would be the national sport! 

The purpose of defining a national sport is that its the most popular.

Football is the national sport of Wales in any way you care to define it with the sole exception that, because of a historical quirk that makes them competitive, the Welsh national rugby union team draws higher attendances, sponsorship and TV coverage.

But football is, as you'd expect, played and watched by more people.

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9 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Football is the national sport of Wales in any way you care to define it with the sole exception that, because of a historical quirk that makes them competitive, the Welsh national rugby union team draws higher attendances, sponsorship and TV coverage.

But football is, as you'd expect, played and watched by more people.

I was speaking to a couple of my Welsh mates about this a few weeks ago - mad football (Liverpool fans). I asked them whether they follow the rugby and one said when big games are on, you hear about it and it is a big deal but the rest of the time no one really cares.

Now that is a couple of people of course, but highlights there is a difference between a country's national sport and nationalism. 

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38 minutes ago, Scubby said:

I was speaking to a couple of my Welsh mates about this a few weeks ago - mad football (Liverpool fans). I asked them whether they follow the rugby and one said when big games are on, you hear about it and it is a big deal but the rest of the time no one really cares.

Now that is a couple of people of course, but highlights there is a difference between a country's national sport and nationalism. 

The club they support is Liverpool, last time I checked that was in England. Are they liverpool ST holders?

If they are mad fans wheres their local club to support. Or do they support an English club because soccer isnt that big in wales?

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53 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Football is the national sport of Wales in any way you care to define it with the sole exception that, because of a historical quirk that makes them competitive, the Welsh national rugby union team draws higher attendances, sponsorship and TV coverage.

But football is, as you'd expect, played and watched by more people.

So its defined as the national sport, draws higher attendances, tv coverage and sponsorship yet you still say its not the main sport, you have just contradicted yourself.

Have a little think about what you are saying

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Just now, yipyee said:

So its defined as the national sport, draws higher attendances, tv coverage and sponsorship yet you still say its not the main sport, you have just contradicted yourself.

Have a little think about what you are saying

I have had a think and am quite clear that by having more spectators, players and clubs that football is a bigger sport in Wales than any other sport including rugby union.

In fact, I'm so clear about that that I've written it multiple times now in really clear English.

I could also write it in Welsh but fewer people would understand it.

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5 minutes ago, yipyee said:

The club they support is Liverpool, last time I checked that was in England. Are they liverpool ST holders?

If they are mad fans wheres their local club to support. Or do they support an English club because soccer isnt that big in wales?

This conversation is getting narrower and narrower.

I guess they were brought up in the 1980s and 1990s when Swansea and Cardiff were in the old 3rd and 4th division 😕 I really don't get where you are going with this. Generalised assertions that football and rugby fans are different people is quite bizarre. I love football and I love rugby. I would assume I'm not alone.

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4 hours ago, Damien said:

That is just not true, again. I don't think you've come out with one correct statement on this page.

Or maybe one eyed fans who want to pretend Rugby is inferior are in greater numbers on here.. haha call yourself rugby fans.

The one place in the UK where rugby is king and you bunch pretend otherwise, what a sad lot

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