The Cornwall RLFC Thread

[Scubby]

3 hours ago, Dave T said:

But road and rail isn't free, you pay for that just like a plane. 

The cost is substantially higher than every other game, that's why costs are relevant. Now its your prerogative to say tough, but I think its equally valid for those paying the bills to push back.

I don't think it is necessarily fair for the RFL to just palm of the costs of expansion on the existing clubs. 

Where is the central point which decides what is near and what is far? Aren't Skolars, West Wales and Coventry (MH) not full members of the RFL. If so, why is it that the measure of what is near and what is far appears to be Keighley?

Edited November 4, 2021 by Scubby

[Johnoco]

55 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Woah woah woah !!! Assume your talking about Huntley and keighley there. Both denied access to the promised land. Oldham and swinton were also big names from yesteryear

Oh fair enough then, we'll plan the future of RL based on them, Liversedge and Broughton Rangers.

[Johnoco]

39 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Think England used to play in Australia pre flights

Yes.... Indomitables. 

[DEANO]

2 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Oh fair enough then, we'll plan the future of RL based on them, Liversedge and Broughton Rangers.

Daft as it sounds they would have more chance of making a fist of it

[yipyee]

21 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Where is the central point which decides what is near and what is far? Aren't Skolars, West Wales and Coventry (MH) not full members of the RFL. If so, why is it that the measure of what is near and what is far appears to be Keighley?

Thats true, cumbria to Cornwall wont be too dissimilar from newcastle to west wales or skolars to whitehaven.

I dont get the issue myself, its almost like a tour game, easily make a weekend of it and team bonding. Could even fly down. 

League 1 players are hardly trying to make a living from playing and I cant see any of them realistically moaning about playing an away game anywhere

[Niels]

1 hour ago, DEANO said:

Woah woah woah !!! Assume your talking about Huntley and keighley there. Both denied access to the promised land. Oldham and swinton were also big names from yesteryear

I think this is a good point.

These sides are great ambassadors for the game in less obvious areas.

Keighley Cougars are aiming to bring both the white and Asian communities together through rugby league. They are also educating about Homophobia. 

I have copied a link from the Guardian about this if anyone would like to read. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2019/feb/17/keithley-cougars-rugby-league

 

[ShropshireBull]

10 hours ago, Griff said:

Of course, a pyramid is wider at the base than it is at the apex. Which is why the soccer pyramid has a boatload of regional leagues five or six tiers down.

Yep and none get funding. 

[GUBRATS]

Surely Yorkshire Airlines could sort something out for Keighley ? 

Ah , I forgot

[Tabby]

11 minutes ago, yipyee said:

Thats true, cumbria to Cornwall wont be too dissimilar from newcastle to west wales or skolars to whitehaven.

I dont get the issue myself, its almost like a tour game, easily make a weekend of it and team bonding. Could even fly down. 

League 1 players are hardly trying to make a living from playing and I cant see any of them realistically moaning about playing an away game anywhere

I’ve not seen a player moan. I’ve seen fans on here moan about their clubs travelling to Canada,France and now Cornwall. The RFL need to support L1 with travel expense as they did with Thursday night games in SL.

[Johnoco]

24 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Daft as it sounds they would have more chance of making a fist of it

So why didn't they then?

[DEANO]

2 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

So why didn't they then?

Err because they didn’t want to 

[Johnoco]

11 minutes ago, DEANO said:

Err because they didn’t want to 

Ah that clears that up then. Much obliged. 

[Tabby]

19 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Surely Yorkshire Airlines could sort something out for Keighley ? 

Ah , I forgot

Cumbrians I feel for. Nearest airport Barton.

[Johnoco]

45 minutes ago, Niels said:

I think this is a good point.

These sides are great ambassadors for the game in less obvious areas.

Keighley Cougars are aiming to bring both the white and Asian communities together through rugby league. They are also educating about Homophobia. 

I have copied a link from the Guardian about this if anyone would like to read. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2019/feb/17/keithley-cougars-rugby-league

 

Absolutely loads of sports clubs do this sort of thing though. And as worthy as it is, it doesn't entitle those clubs to a preservation order.

[The Rocket]

On 03/11/2021 at 18:50, Man of Kent said:

Maybe this won’t be a flash in the pan.
 

The Cornwall RLFC director seems a very capable chap http://www.cornishrebels.co.uk/colin-groves-announced-as-cornish-rebels-director/#more-934

Thanks for putting this up a very interesting interview.

This Groves bloke sounds like a bit of a goer. I have to admit I`m not sure if his motivations are purely altruistic towards League or if this is just part of a wider plan to improve the chances of having a stadium built. i.e. tenants all year round.

Either way some of the talk is similar to what we have heard coming out of Toulouse:

What John and Rob have achieved with the Rebels so far is incredible and we now have the foundation in place for the sport to really take off; It is a natural and logical fit with Cornwall as a summer sport. We are moving forward with a vision of three major sports in the County; Rugby Union, Soccer and finally we see Rugby League as the third piece of that puzzle.“

I think some of these modern administrators aren`t weighed down by the baggage of the past. This bloke Groves has a background in business and economics, he`ll know that sport and all the associated industries are a potential growth area in any economy.

 

 

[ShropshireBull]

1 hour ago, Johnoco said:

Absolutely loads of sports clubs do this sort of thing though. And as worthy as it is, it doesn't entitle those clubs to a preservation order.

I would also argue clubs massively over promote 'social' issues for branding and marketing purposes.  Its how you end up with people who play football for a club owned by a horrific dictatorship telling me to think about racial and social justice or stonewall still being partnered with the premier league.  

[ShropshireBull]

39 minutes ago, The Rocket said:

Thanks for putting this up a very interesting interview.

This Groves bloke sounds like a bit of a goer. I have to admit I`m not sure if his motivations are purely altruistic towards League or if this is just part of a wider plan to improve the chances of having a stadium built. i.e. tenants all year round.

Either way some of the talk is similar to what we have heard coming out of Toulouse:

What John and Rob have achieved with the Rebels so far is incredible and we now have the foundation in place for the sport to really take off; It is a natural and logical fit with Cornwall as a summer sport. We are moving forward with a vision of three major sports in the County; Rugby Union, Soccer and finally we see Rugby League as the third piece of that puzzle.“

I think some of these modern administrators aren`t weighed down by the baggage of the past. This bloke Groves has a background in business and economics, he`ll know that sport and all the associated industries are a potential growth area in any economy.

 

 

It is definitely to get the stadium built.  Worry would be once It has been built they dont need you but if cornwall are knocking on door of SL in 4 years could have legs. 

[Tabby]

11 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

It is definitely to get the stadium built.  Worry would be once It has been built they dont need you but if cornwall are knocking on door of SL in 4 years could have legs. 

They are starting off part time. SL won’t happen in 4 years. The current structure will change when the TV funding is renewed in 2024. Where does that leave them? I nor you know. 

[ShropshireBull]

33 minutes ago, Tabby said:

They are starting off part time. SL won’t happen in 4 years. The current structure will change when the TV funding is renewed in 2024. Where does that leave them? I nor you know. 

You could say the same about any pt club. 

[Tabby]

19 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

You could say the same about any pt club. 

So your knocking on the door theory is obsolete.

[ShropshireBull]

6 hours ago, Tabby said:

So your knocking on the door theory is obsolete.

No it isnt. Knocking on the dóor does not mean in SL. Criticisms people make of Cornwall need to be the same as every other club.  So if people think Cornwall is a waste then Swinton Oldham and a host of other teams who are far less likely to get a proper stadium can also get out. 

The same clubs who generate nothing for the game or themselves cannot be able to dictate who gets to play. 

[BridBeachRL]

On a RFL facilities with league 1 what is the minimum number of seats required? It used to be 500 in about 2016 but this ground only has 200 have the requirements changed/not a factor any more? And my 2nd question is Laurent Frayssinous still under contract and if so how does that work is he under contract of the franchise of Hemel moving to Ottawa now to Cornwall so would be the current head coach or was it only for 2021 that he signed for Ottawa? 

[gingerjon]

22 minutes ago, BridBeachRL said:

On a RFL facilities with league 1 what is the minimum number of seats required? It used to be 500 in about 2016 but this ground only has 200 have the requirements changed/not a factor any more? And my 2nd question is Laurent Frayssinous still under contract and if so how does that work is he under contract of the franchise of Hemel moving to Ottawa now to Cornwall so would be the current head coach or was it only for 2021 that he signed for Ottawa? 

The operational rules linked to above say 300 covered seats required for League 1 but that dispensation may be given if requested.

[GUBRATS]

51 minutes ago, BridBeachRL said:

On a RFL facilities with league 1 what is the minimum number of seats required? It used to be 500 in about 2016 but this ground only has 200 have the requirements changed/not a factor any more? And my 2nd question is Laurent Frayssinous still under contract and if so how does that work is he under contract of the franchise of Hemel moving to Ottawa now to Cornwall so would be the current head coach or was it only for 2021 that he signed for Ottawa? 

Stadium criteria at all ' Pro ' RL died years ago 

[del capo]

39 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

Stadium criteria at all ' Pro ' RL died years ago 

Along with pitch dimensions and spectator facilities.........