GUBRATS Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 On 18/09/2022 at 10:07, Pulga said: I'd take Leigh at this stage. Β Next year , maybe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Jughead said: Says the Leigh fan, who play in the Championship play-offs every year. You as abusive about them being in them as much as two teams playing against each other in a final for the first time in eleven years? I said I wouldn't reply , but it has just occured to me , the last Championship play off win for Leigh discounting the middle 8 s was beating Haven in the 2004 GFΒ My mistake , I forgot the 2014 GF win against Fev at HeadingleyΒ Edited September 19, 2022 by GUBRATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, GUBRATS said: I said I wouldn't reply , but it has just occured to me , the last Championship play off win for Leigh discounting the middle 8 s was beating Haven in the 2004 GFΒ My mistake , I forgot the 2014 GF win against Fev at HeadingleyΒ Thanks for replying to my other user name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Surely hexagonal? If 2 teams play on 4-sided pitches, 3 should be 6-sided. Still need touchlines! And why only two dimensional? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: I said I wouldn't reply , but it has just occured to me , the last Championship play off win for Leigh discounting the middle 8 s was beating Haven in the 2004 GFΒ My mistake , I forgot the 2014 GF win against Fev at HeadingleyΒ 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2022 in the play-offs for Leigh Locomotive. What were you saying about the same teams in the same positions again? Or does it only count if itβs Super League and not the team you support? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Jughead said: 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019 and 2022 in the play-offs for Leigh Locomotive. What were you saying about the same teams in the same positions again? Or does it only count if itβs Super League and not the team you support? All through this I've referred to teams winning , not competing in a play off , you've included the middle 8 s in this , in the last twenty years off the top of my head , Leigh,Fev,Sheffield,Fax,HKR,CAS,Salford,Toulouse,Toronto, Barrow and London have won the NL1/championship GF or the MPG , in that time we've had 3 SL GF winnersΒ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: All through this I've referred to teams winning , not competing in a play off , you've included the middle 8 s in this , in the last twenty years off the top of my head , Leigh,Fev,Sheffield,Fax,HKR,CAS,Salford,Toulouse,Toronto, Barrow and London have won the NL1/championship GF or the MPG , in that time we've had 3 SL GF winnersΒ You havenβt. You moaned about Saints v Leeds finals. Iβm not sure how much sport youβve watched but if the final is between St Helens and Leeds Rhinos, one team has to lose. Unfortunately, itβs been Saints every time. So back to the question, is it different because itβs Leigh and competing in the play-offs almost every single year?Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Jughead said: You havenβt. You moaned about Saints v Leeds finals. Iβm not sure how much sport youβve watched but if the final is between St Helens and Leeds Rhinos, one team has to lose. Unfortunately, itβs been Saints every time. So back to the question, is it different because itβs Leigh and competing in the play-offs almost every single year?Β Yes a Saints v Leeds final BECAUSE they are 2 of the only 3 clubs currently in SL who have won it before , and in the last 2 decadesΒ As I've just posted in that time we've had almost a dozen winners of the second tier GF/MPGΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Just now, GUBRATS said: Yes a Saints v Leeds final BECAUSE they are 2 of the only 3 clubs currently in SL who have won it before , and in the last 2 decadesΒ As I've just posted in that time we've had almost a dozen winners of the second tier GF/MPGΒ Well, yeah, teams who win the second tier, for the most part of history of the summer game, cannot retain the title.Β Clutching at straws.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Jughead said: Well, yeah, teams who win the second tier, for the most part of history of the summer game, cannot retain the title.Β Clutching at straws.Β 6 of those teams are currently still in the ChampionshipΒ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: 6 of those teams are currently still in the ChampionshipΒ Thought youβd know how relegation worked with Degsy leading the Locos.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Number 16 said: And why only two dimensional? Everyone else is playing checkers whilst you're playing 3D chess. Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 As an outsider, watching less SL these days than I once had, but as a neutral all the same, another title for Leeds or St Helens is not anything I get excited by. It certainly isnβt the matchup that has me a certainty to stay up to watch live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: As an outsider, watching less SL these days than I once had, but as a neutral all the same, another title for Leeds or St Helens is not anything I get excited by. It certainly isnβt the matchup that has me a certainty to stay up to watch live. No live RL for you until next year if Parra get beat at the weekend, then.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jughead said: No live RL for you until next year if Parra get beat at the weekend, then.Β Please, you are comparing a Penrith/Souths v Cowboys GF where any of those three teams could win just their second title in decades or in fact history history, to a final matchup of St Helens v Leeds, the two clubs that have won 12 of the last 16 titles. Thatβs 75% in case you need the help. What a nonsense comparison to make. Edited September 20, 2022 by Sports Prophet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said: Please, you are comparing a Penrith/Souths v Cowboys GF where any of those three teams could win just their second title in decades or in fact history history, to a final matchup of St Helens v Leeds, the two clubs that have won 12 of the last 16 titles. What a nonsense comparison to make. But three of the four have won the showpiece in the last seven finals. Penrith have been in the last two finals, it was Penrith v Souths last year, the Cowboys were in 2015 and 2017. Whereβs the feet stamping and slagging the game off because the same teams make the finals here? Itβs nonsense to write off the Super League Grand Final. St Helens could create history within Super League, Leeds the only other side to achieve such a feat, are the ones who could see their βthree-peatβ achievement topped. Saints lost four Grand Finals to Leeds, can they actually get over the line against an old foe? Kristian Woolf could leave the club on Saturday with a hat trick of wins, whilst heβs up against Rohan Smith who cut his teeth in the Queensland Cup, too. Konrad Hurrell is going up against his former club, as is James Bentley. Can Saints win it without Morgan Knowles and Alex Walmsley, focal points of their attack? Can Leeds win it without Aidan Sezer and Morgan Gannon, focal points of their attack? Thatβs without really scratching the surface and finding out more about the real lives of the blokes lining up on Saturday.Β Itβs been said elsewhere, Iβm not sure what people are gaining from slagging this game off. Iβm not sure what sort of competition people want when Leeds Rhinos go and knock off both Catalans and Wigan to get to the final and I donβt get if people actually like Rugby League or negativity and division is so deeply ingrained into them that this is normal.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Jughead said: But three of the four have won the showpiece in the last seven finals. Penrith have been in the last two finals, it was Penrith v Souths last year, the Cowboys were in 2015 and 2017. Whereβs the feet stamping and slagging the game off because the same teams make the finals here? Itβs nonsense to write off the Super League Grand Final. St Helens could create history within Super League, Leeds the only other side to achieve such a feat, are the ones who could see their βthree-peatβ achievement topped. Saints lost four Grand Finals to Leeds, can they actually get over the line against an old foe? Kristian Woolf could leave the club on Saturday with a hat trick of wins, whilst heβs up against Rohan Smith who cut his teeth in the Queensland Cup, too. Konrad Hurrell is going up against his former club, as is James Bentley. Can Saints win it without Morgan Knowles and Alex Walmsley, focal points of their attack? Can Leeds win it without Aidan Sezer and Morgan Gannon, focal points of their attack? Thatβs without really scratching the surface and finding out more about the real lives of the blokes lining up on Saturday.Β Itβs been said elsewhere, Iβm not sure what people are gaining from slagging this game off. Iβm not sure what sort of competition people want when Leeds Rhinos go and knock off both Catalans and Wigan to get to the final and I donβt get if people actually like Rugby League or negativity and division is so deeply ingrained into them that this is normal.Β I donβt dispute there are plenty of stories to tell and Iβm not slagging the game off. Iβm just giving my point of view as a neutral, as requested by the OP, that I am far less excited about the prospect of staying up very late, to watch these two perennial Champions battle it out against each other live, instead of the chance to see a new team win. Thatβs when you threw in a ridiculous comparison.Β I will watch the game, more likely on delay, which I hope to enjoy for the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Sports Prophet said: I donβt dispute there are plenty of stories to tell and Iβm not slagging the game off. Iβm just giving my point of view as a neutral, as requested by the OP, that I am far less excited about the prospect of staying up very late, to watch these two perennial Champions battle it out against each other live, instead of the chance to see a new team win. Thatβs when you threw in a ridiculous comparison.Β I will watch the game, more likely on delay, which I hope to enjoy for the game itself. The old βIβll moan but Iβll watch itβ. Youβre definitely a Rugby League fan.Β 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jughead said: The old βIβll moan but Iβll watch itβ. Youβre definitely a Rugby League fan.Β You really don't get itΒ WE WANT A NEW WINNERΒ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hicks Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: You really don't get itΒ WE WANT A NEW WINNERΒ how new.?.Β from what I can see of this season's super league teams only 3 have never been rugby league champions.Β Toulouse Catalan Castleford. Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, paul hicks said: how new.?.Β from what I can see of this season's super league teams only 3 have never been rugby league champions.Β Toulouse Catalan Castleford. Β SL , it's a whole new game , didn't you know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Jughead said: The old βIβll moan but Iβll watch itβ. Youβre definitely a Rugby League fan.Β Nothing screams Rugby League more than that oversized chip you appear to be carrying. Not every comment is a personal attack on you. I hope we both enjoy the game on the weekend 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hicks Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: SL , it's a whole new game , didn't you know ? and its small, minded deniers of history who believe that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) On 19/09/2022 at 17:19, GUBRATS said: 6 of those teams are currently still in the ChampionshipΒ Also there was no promotion for a number of years. I remember Sheffield won it twice in a row as they beat Batley in their second final. However they were the only consecutive winners that period, I think.Β Edited September 20, 2022 by Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 12 hours ago, GUBRATS said: You really don't get itΒ WE WANT A NEW WINNERΒ DON'T SHOUT By "we" you mean "you". The rest of us want the best team to win, even if that is Leeds or St Helens. Β 3 eiΟΒ + 1 = 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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