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gingerjon

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Chrispmartha

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There also seems to be a bit of a narrative especially from some Leigh fans that DB is somehow the only owner that puts money into a club and everyone should be thankful, don’t most clubs have the same kind of situation?

I mean Paul Caddick is worth around £250million isn’t he?

amm

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20 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

And if they lose games?

 

Personally I don’t like the attitude of well he’s got loads of money so he can do what he wants. RL clubs are steeped in history and tradition and are bigger than one mans ego.

Apologies Chris (hope that is your name) as I said in my post, I'm quite old and I forget everyone doesn't know me. They also don't know the history of me and Degsy, and they don't know how sarcastic a lot of what I post is. 

I couldn't agree more with you about the attitude of loadsamoney types.

Whilst I do not suffer fools gladly, I will always gladly make fools suffer

A man is getting along on the road of wisdom when he realises that his opinion is just an opinion

Chrispmartha

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7 minutes ago, amm said:

Apologies Chris (hope that is your name) as I said in my post, I'm quite old and I forget everyone doesn't know me. They also don't know the history of me and Degsy, and they don't know how sarcastic a lot of what I post is. 

I couldn't agree more with you about the attitude of loadsamoney types.

No problem- and yes it’s Chris 🙂

phiggins

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42 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

You’re right, really those things you list could have been a bigger talking point.

Adding black to your colour scheme is a common enough thing by sports teams but dropping the cherry red and the hoops is a bit much.

Despite the ridicule the name is getting, I think had that been the only change then fans would have given it a go maybe as the old moniker was hardly loved.

But the redesign of the shirt and colour scheme just smacks of greed and thoughts of merchandise sales without any consideration for the fans.

They could have done it gradually ‘trad’ home, ‘mad’ away or an alternate jersey ‘colour rush’ NFL type jersey.

To add to the confusion I’ve read from Degsy that there has been careful research done yet the marketing rationale is this is the big boss’ personal favourite.

I'm not really fussed about the fact that we've changed name, I never knew them as Centurions anyway. And not even fussed about changing from Cherry & White. We've never really worn actual cherry & white for a number of years now, just red and white hoops. And I can understand taking a step away from something that is too similar to Wigan's colours and branding.

Not even bothered by the name, though as you say, the decision making process is questionable.

But the execution is awful. The design work is tacky, with both badge and kit. Who looks at a kit that has a leopard's anus on the back and thinks that's a good idea?!

But as a Leigh fan, I'll just have to appreciate the positive aspects, like the women's team and what will hopefully be the foundations of an academy setup, all more important than the 2023 kit, and a badge, which are both fixable.

Gerrumonside ref

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1 minute ago, phiggins said:

I'm not really fussed about the fact that we've changed name, I never knew them as Centurions anyway. And not even fussed about changing from Cherry & White. We've never really worn actual cherry & white for a number of years now, just red and white hoops. And I can understand taking a step away from something that is too similar to Wigan's colours and branding.

Not even bothered by the name, though as you say, the decision making process is questionable.

But the execution is awful. The design work is tacky, with both badge and kit. Who looks at a kit that has a leopard's anus on the back and thinks that's a good idea?!

But as a Leigh fan, I'll just have to appreciate the positive aspects, like the women's team and what will hopefully be the foundations of an academy setup, all more important than the 2023 kit, and a badge, which are both fixable.

Fair enough.

Chrispmartha

Chrispmartha

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Just now, phiggins said:

I'm not really fussed about the fact that we've changed name, I never knew them as Centurions anyway. And not even fussed about changing from Cherry & White. We've never really worn actual cherry & white for a number of years now, just red and white hoops. And I can understand taking a step away from something that is too similar to Wigan's colours and branding.

Not even bothered by the name, though as you say, the decision making process is questionable.

But the execution is awful. The design work is tacky, with both badge and kit. Who looks at a kit that has a leopard's anus on the back and thinks that's a good idea?!

But as a Leigh fan, I'll just have to appreciate the positive aspects, like the women's team and what will hopefully be the foundations of an academy setup, all more important than the 2023 kit, and a badge, which are both fixable.

The problem is all this rebrand nonsense has taken away from the actual good stuff they seem to be doing, it simply wasn’t necessary and if the club feel it was necessary then do it properly, he likes to show off how rich he is but couldn’t afford a branding agency to do it properly?

Martyn Sadler

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2 hours ago, Damien said:

All I will say about that is that he's the only person I've ever seen say that Halifax Blue Sox was great branding and he is a person who has defended that branding quite vigorously on here.

Quite right. I think Halifax made a great mistake in abandoning that branding, as did Doncaster when they abandoned the 'Lakers' branding.

There were many reasons for may opinion about both that I won't go into here.

The Leigh rebrand may or may not work, but at least the club is trying to do something differently, which I think deserves our support.

hunsletgreenandgold

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3 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Quite right. I think Halifax made a great mistake in abandoning that branding, as did Doncaster when they abandoned the 'Lakers' branding.

There were many reasons for may opinion about both that I won't go into here.

The Leigh rebrand may or may not work, but at least the club is trying to do something differently, which I think deserves our support.

The fact many (including myself) are still believing this to be a joke/stunt and being mocked by other clubs, isn't really the vibe a rebrand should be going for though, surely? 

Martyn Sadler

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And it's worth noting that a thread that began at 9.15am yesterday has now gone to 25 pages with 645 posts.

Whether you like the rebrand or not, it seems to be generating plenty of discussion.

The rebrand is ensuring that the club is being talked about.

gingerjon

gingerjon

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6 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

The Leigh rebrand may or may not work, but at least the club is trying to do something differently, which I think deserves our support.

This is like the comment about 'ambition'.

The diversionary question of, "What do you have against ambition?" mixed with "Why shouldn't our clubs try to do new things?"

The point is it's not ambition or difference that's the problem. Those things can be good or bad, depending.

And with this, what they depend on is execution and purpose.

And they are sadly lacking and, being blunt, so obviously lacking that there really is no debate to be had about it.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

gingerjon

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Just now, Martyn Sadler said:

The rebrand is ensuring that the club is being talked about.

People still talk about Ratners to this day.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Spidey

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Just now, Martyn Sadler said:

And it's worth noting that a thread that began at 9.15am yesterday has now gone to 25 pages with 645 posts.

Whether you like the rebrand or not, it seems to be generating plenty of discussion.

The rebrand is ensuring that the club is being talked about.

How much is discussion and how much is ###### taking?

phiggins

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33 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

The problem is all this rebrand nonsense has taken away from the actual good stuff they seem to be doing, it simply wasn’t necessary and if the club feel it was necessary then do it properly, he likes to show off how rich he is but couldn’t afford a branding agency to do it properly?

I've seen enough work from branding agencies that suggest that they probably have, but then also probably put stupid deadlines on the work

Angelic Cynic

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6 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Quite right. I think Halifax made a great mistake in abandoning that branding, as did Doncaster when they abandoned the 'Lakers' branding.

There were many reasons for may opinion about both that I won't go into here.

The Leigh rebrand may or may not work, but at least the club is trying to do something differently, which I think deserves our support.

Why didn't Leigh consult with their supporters - the putative 'lifeblood of the sport?'

Removing the club colours is reminiscent of Cardiff City soccer club who took 3 years to revert back to their original colours,following their fans protests.

The club is not being talked about - like the government:it is being mocked. 

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gingerjon

gingerjon

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Just now, Spidey said:

How much is discussion and how much is ###### taking?

People openly laughing at one of our 12 top tier teams is both good for the club in question and good for the sport.

Apparently.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Ragingbull

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11 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

Quite right. I think Halifax made a great mistake in abandoning that branding, as did Doncaster when they abandoned the 'Lakers' branding.

There were many reasons for may opinion about both that I won't go into here.

The Leigh rebrand may or may not work, but at least the club is trying to do something differently, which I think deserves our support.

O god Sadlers here, no surprises he approves of it and it the way to move the Leigh club forward. 

 

You were the man that thought the way to to the whole game forward was to have West Wales playing against SL sides!!  

You know nothing about how to progress a ream or indeed the sport.  Your ridiculous views have shown that time and time again

Martyn Sadler

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3 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

The fact many (including myself) are still believing this to be a joke/stunt and being mocked by other clubs, isn't really the vibe a rebrand should be going for though, surely? 

It does remind me very strongly of the furore when Leeds rebranded as the Rhinos.

And look how badly that turned out.

And, before you point it out, I admit that the fundamentals of the Leeds shirt didn't change.

But until now, Leigh's cherry and white shirt has always played second fiddle to the cherry and white shirt up the road in the same borough.

Perhaps the club needs to emerge from that particular shadow.

SalfordSlim

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4 hours ago, RP London said:

In all seriousness (sorry) I don't mind the name change.. think it could work... its everything else! The stupid shirt (that is embarrassing) the logo that could have been done better for £5 on the Internet (I know this because we did it back in 2010 with a club I helped set up!), the change of colours, the release video etc etc.. 

Sadly it's overshadowing genuinely good news around the academy and women's team, which is unforgiveable..  

I know someone else asked the question and apologies if anyone has already answered but is this actually your women's team or have you just nicked Leigh Miners team and renamed it?

Ragingbull

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5 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

And it's worth noting that a thread that began at 9.15am yesterday has now gone to 25 pages with 645 posts.

Whether you like the rebrand or not, it seems to be generating plenty of discussion.

The rebrand is ensuring that the club is being talked about.

The current government is also being talked about more than ever.  Does that mean what's going on at No10 is positive?  

Leight are just being talked about they are being laughed at just the same way as the Tony's are.  

Time your retired Martyn.

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