Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Doesn’t exist! Rohan Smith hasn’t named an official captain or captains for the season, he says it Will basically be a game by game decision. Has this been done before? As a leeds fan im glad we have a coach that ‘thinks outside the box’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Just now, Chrispmartha said: Doesn’t exist! Rohan Smith hasn’t named an official captain or captains for the season, he says it Will basically be a game by game decision. Has this been done before? As a leeds fan im glad we have a coach that ‘thinks outside the box’ Not sure this is a good idea There is always going to be a senior leadership group I know but you need a single leader/captain too I'd have thought Rhyse makes sense in terms of experience and position etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Not sure this is a good idea There is always going to be a senior leadership group I know but you need a single leader/captain too I'd have thought Rhyse makes sense in terms of experience and position etc Why isn't it a good idea? why do you need a single person with the title Captain? If you have players that are leaders the only real thing a captain does in a game is be able to talk to the ref, and that person will be decided on depending on the game plan. Like the short kick off thing we need people in the game to break the mold and try new ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: Why isn't it a good idea? why do you need a single person with the title Captain? If you have players that are leaders the only real thing a captain does in a game is be able to talk to the ref, and that person will be decided on depending on the game plan. Like the short kick off thing we need people in the game to break the mold and try new ideas Rank, structure and authority are essential for teams (in any line) to succeed. If, for Leeds, Kevin Sinfield said take the two but Jamie Peacock said run it, we would take the two. It would have been the reverse at England. That is just how it works, you can have all the senior leadership groups you want, but ultimately some 'one' has to make a decision at times (and bear that responsibility). Sometimes that is the coach too. Ultimately I think this comes down to him not being 100% on the existing captain Kruise Leeming. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) I thought Wigan did this a few years ago, although I think that was based on there being a 'leadership group' of about half a dozen with senior roles. Edited February 7 by Just Browny 2 I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Being club captain is seen as something of an honour and often improves the right person - although have seen the opposite happen often enough. If the Leeds players are comfortable with it then fair enough - sounds like a different twist on the co-captains / leadership group approach which comes in and out of fashion. What will be interesting is if they make a final and start squabbling about who is going to be captain for the big match and get the opportunity to be presented and lift a trophy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Captains have to give comments to the press immediately after the game. I can understand no one volunteering to wear that blue and yellow shirt for one second longer than is absolutely necessary. 1 3 Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Leadership groups aren’t uncommon, Wigan did it under Maguire or Wane and had a group of about six that would rotate. I suppose Smith doesn’t want to name a leadership group but will have a group of names he’ll likely pick from rather than giving everyone a turn as if it’s under-7’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippytoe Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 33 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: Why isn't it a good idea? why do you need a single person with the title Captain? If you have players that are leaders the only real thing a captain does in a game is be able to talk to the ref, and that person will be decided on depending on the game plan. Like the short kick off thing we need people in the game to break the mold and try new ideas Like re inventing the wheel, I hope every player gets a go then or it could be mutiny on the good ship Rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The storm Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 49 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: Doesn’t exist! Rohan Smith hasn’t named an official captain or captains for the season, he says it Will basically be a game by game decision. Has this been done before? As a leeds fan im glad we have a coach that ‘thinks outside the box’ Smith has gone WOKE down walkabout creek Not naming a captain is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard of in my rugby league life 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, The storm said: Smith has gone WOKE down walkabout creek Not naming a captain is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard of in my rugby league life Love a bit of hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 https://www.therhinos.co.uk/2023/02/07/rhinos-clarify-captaincy-role-for-2023/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 39 minutes ago, Just Browny said: I thought Wigan did this a few years ago, although I think that was based on there being a 'leadership group' of about half a dozen with senior roles. To be fair that’s pretty much what smith has said he is doing We had various captains last year when leeming was injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The storm Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Its a none decision Its walkabout creek with crocadile dundee Edited February 7 by The storm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Does rather feel like this decision has been made because there's no obvious leader in the team - rather than the angle they would have you believe, that there's too many to pick from. I think it will become Oledzki in years to come but I am surprised the likes of Sezer/Austin/Myler aren't even mentioned when it comes to this kind of discussion. Don't think Leeds have had a captain for more than one season since Sinfield retired so overall it won't make much difference but I still think it's an odd move to not appoint one. Edited February 7 by hunsletgreenandgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Does rather feel like this decision has been made because there's no obvious leader in the team - rather than the angle they would have you believe, that there's too many to pick from. I think it will become Oledzki in years to come but I am surprised the likes of Sezer/Austin/Myler aren't even mentioned when it comes to this kind of discussion. Don't think Leeds have had a captain for more than one season since Sinfield retired so overall it won't make much difference but I still think it's an odd move to not appoint one. I think it’s actually just a continuation of the situation since Smith came in last year, he used various different captains. Unless you’re someone like Kevin Sinfield or Andy Farrell the captains role is overstated IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Chrispmartha said: Why isn't it a good idea? why do you need a single person with the title Captain? If you have players that are leaders the only real thing a captain does in a game is be able to talk to the ref, and that person will be decided on depending on the game plan. Like the short kick off thing we need people in the game to break the mold and try new ideas Played a lot of 3 sports and the captain has always mattered in teams I have played (admittedly a lot more in cricket or the rugby codes) An overall leader the coach can rely on ....danger of too many voices both on and off the field. Especially if some of the voices disagree Maybe it's a genius move but the fact that every team sport ever has always named a captain tells us it's probably at best a distraction rather than a useful strategy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Does rather feel like this decision has been made because there's no obvious leader in the team - rather than the angle they would have you believe, that there's too many to pick from. I think it will become Oledzki in years to come but I am surprised the likes of Sezer/Austin/Myler aren't even mentioned when it comes to this kind of discussion. Don't think Leeds have had a captain for more than one season since Sinfield retired so overall it won't make much difference but I still think it's an odd move to not appoint one. I think it should be Martin or Oledski Edited February 7 by Bedfordshire Bronco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Just now, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I think it should be Martin or Oledski And it will be, in some of the games, maybe even in the same game when Oledski goes off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Played a lot of 3 sports and the captain has always mattered in teams I have played (admittedly a lot more in cricket or the rugby codes) An overall leader the coach can rely on ....danger of too many voices both on and off the field. Especially if some of the voices disagree Maybe it's a genius move but the fact that every team sport ever has always named a captain tells us it's probably at best a distraction rather than a useful strategy He will name a captain for each game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindle xiii Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Is this so they can all mouth off to the ref? Oh wait, hang on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 52 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: And it will be, in some of the games, maybe even in the same game when Oledski goes off Which will at best will be confusing and diffuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 51 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: He will name a captain for each game Meant name a captain of the club full.stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Which will at best will be confusing and diffuse Confusing for who? The players will be given a game plan and will know their roles, just like they did last year when we had various different captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: Confusing for who? The players will be given a game plan and will know their roles, just like they did last year when we had various different captains. Having different captains forced due to circumstances is seen as a negative. Why plan for that by design? Edited February 7 by Bedfordshire Bronco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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