Football

[Gerrumonside ref]

43 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Hard to judge power but, yes, it's the fact that he digs out and around the post that makes it.

All good stuff anyway!

Agreed!

[The Hallucinating Goose]

I had the pleasure this afternoon of witnessing Beverley demolish Winterton 5-0 in the FA Vase Second Qualifying Round to qualify for the First Round Proper for the first time in the club's history! C'mon Beavers!!  

[Moose]

27 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I had the pleasure this afternoon of witnessing Beverley demolish Winterton 5-0 in the FA Vase Second Qualifying Round to qualify for the First Round Proper for the first time in the club's history! C'mon Beavers!!  

Do Beverley Beavers have a ladies team?

Asking for a friend

[The Hallucinating Goose]

34 minutes ago, Moose said:

Do Beverley Beavers have a ladies team?

Asking for a friend

Beverley Beavers are a junior team in the town for young kids in the early years of primary school.

[Moose]

25 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Beverley Beavers are a junior team in the town for young kids in the early years of primary school.

Looking at Beverley Town’s website and they do indeed have a ladies team. 

 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

11 hours ago, Moose said:

Looking at Beverley Town’s website and they do indeed have a ladies team. 

 

You're quite right, Beverley Town have a women's team but Beverley Beavers are a completely different team.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

I just found out that Andy Carroll is now playing for Bordeaux in the French 4th division. I can just about remember him playing for England... whatever happened to him..?

[bobbruce]

31 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I just found out that Andy Carroll is now playing for Bordeaux in the French 4th division. I can just about remember him playing for England... whatever happened to him..?

You’ve just told us. To be fair to him at 35 and he’s still playing pro football and he scored twice on his debut.

[gingerjon]

1 hour ago, bobbruce said:

You’ve just told us. To be fair to him at 35 and he’s still playing pro football and he scored twice on his debut.

Also Bordeaux are a massive club and there's quite the story as to how they are in the fourth division in France. It's not the equivalent of Accrington Stanley.

[ivans82]

More farcical decisions in Sundays big games .Trossards first booking was soft in the extreme , but to then  wrecklessly barge the City player in the back was stupid . But even more stupid was that the 2nd card was for kicking the ball away not the initial dangerous challenge . So much for player welfare .Earlier on a City player committed a foul and kicked the ball away and did not receive a card . Also in the Forest game  , the penalty they received was extremely dodgy , both players looked to shoulder each other off the ball .

[Gerrumonside ref]

The transfer system facing a final reckoning or a Bosman 2.0?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/29/will-the-lassana-diarra-case-bring-down-transfer-market-as-we-know-it

[Hopping Mad]

The National League Cup launched last evening - to widespread indifference.

Sample attendances

Dagenham & Redbridge (versus Spurs U21s) 184

Woking (versus Brighton & HA U21s) 227

FC Halifax Town (versus Newcastle United U21s) 292

Oldham Athletic (versus Stoke City U21s) 455

Boston United (versus Leeds United U21s) 467

Apparently, the smallest crowd ever registered for an Oldham Athletic first team fixture

Edited October 2, 2024 by Hopping Mad

[17 stone giant]

On 22/09/2024 at 07:46, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I just found out that Andy Carroll is now playing for Bordeaux in the French 4th division. I can just about remember him playing for England... whatever happened to him..?

There was a time when I thought he was (or had the potential to be) a really good player. Someone who might get 50 or so England caps.

He was very good with his feet for a big guy and if used the right way, he was a very difficult player to stop. Good in the air, strong, and with good skills to link up the play. Was it Euro 2012 he played for England and scored against Sweden?

I had high hopes for him, but for some reason it just didn't work out as well as I thought it might. Maybe just not suited to how football is played nowadays, perhaps?

[HawkMan]

Teammates must be furious with Harry Maguire,  they've worked so hard to get Ten Hag the sack, then Harry comes along and saves him, for now.

[Gerrumonside ref]

Looks like change is coming to the transfer system after Diarra won his test case with FIFA.

Bosman v2.0?

[Sidi Fidi Gold]

54 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Looks like change is coming to the transfer system after Diarra won his test case with FIFA.

Bosman v2.0?

Don't know what the changes will be but I'll bet they'll benefit the very elite clubs clubs the most.

[Gerrumonside ref]

2 hours ago, Sidi Fidi Gold said:

Don't know what the changes will be but I'll bet they'll benefit the very elite clubs clubs the most.

Elite clubs, lawyers, agents and elite players of course.

Could be ramifications for clubs with a ‘trading and academy’ business model.

The truth at the moment is FIFA are downplaying it whereas as players’ unions are playing it up.

[Maximus Decimus]

After 6 games, there are 5 teams still without a win in the PL, including all of the newly promoted sides. Sign of a growing gap or just a statistical anomaly?

By contrast, out of 32 teams in the NFL only 1 side hasn't won a game after 4 rounds.

Totally different systems of course, but it does seem a bit mad.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

A strong defensive display gives a big home win for Beverley Town, beating a strong, experienced Hallam side 1-0!

Fantastic game in front of a big crowd of 350 fans! C'mon you Beavers!!

[The Hallucinating Goose]

A very poor first half from England. Playing a far too attacking system, leaving just one man back when pressing forward is seeing England getting constantly caught out on the break, this coupled with some really slow and indecisive play around the edge of the box in attack is creating a very poor performance.

[HawkMan]

27 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

A very poor first half from England. Playing a far too attacking system, leaving just one man back when pressing forward is seeing England getting constantly caught out on the break, this coupled with some really slow and indecisive play around the edge of the box in attack is creating a very poor performance.

Players sabotaging Lee Carsley's campaign to be next England manager. If we don't win this group and get back to League A of this comp, then no way should he get job.

BTW, this doesn't impact on England seeding for WC qualifying,  draw for that campaign I think is December.

Edited October 10, 2024 by HawkMan

[The Hallucinating Goose]

One of the worst England performances I've seen in a long time. If just a couple of tiny little things went differently they genuinely could have lost that 5-0.

[Gerrumonside ref]

On the other hand it was great performance by Greece.

Their football on the night was crafty and cohesive - they looked like a team rather than a group of expensively assembled individuals.

I must admit I found their tribute to George Baldock very moving.

[EagleEyePie]

I was a fan of bringing through Carsley on the interim and giving him the opportunity that Southgate got but wow that was a tactical disaster. His answer to the question of how we can fit so many good attacking players into just a few positions seemed to be to stick them all in the team and hope for the best. There was just no consideration for the defensive side of the game, which makes me think his focus was more on showing off how well his team could attack (to distance himself from the more conservative approach of Southgate) rather than just winning the game. Carsley has picked ultra attacking teams before, but that was against very poor opposition at U21's. In that respect I think he massively underestimated Greece. While you don't need big club experience to be the best international manager you still need the right skillset for the job and I think last night has raised massive questions about that aspect and ended any hopes he might have had about becoming the permanent manager.

Not that the blame falls only on one man. Obviously the players have to take a huge portion of the criticism too. England aren't in the Nations League Group B because of the current interim coach, they are there because that's where the team belong based on performance. It's a continuation of a decline that should probably concern the FA. We all know reaching the Euro 24 final owed a low to fortune and fluke. Results in general have been on a downward trajectory and that has probably changed the dynamic of what the next manager needs to do.

[17 stone giant]

It's only one game. It's a Nations League group game, not a World Cup or European Championship knockout game.

If we're not going to try different things during a Nations League game, then when?

Well played Greece. You deserved your victory.