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gingerjon

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Cycling and athletics are commercialised experiments in pharmacology, soccer is where third world blowhards go to get handed millions ... and now, tennis, which has *cough* rumours about its own substance issues faces up to a cover up about fixing.

 

Oh dear.

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/the-tennis-racket#.dvxl6LerPM

 

 

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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gingerjon

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Tennis is the second most gambled on sport after horse racing. Of course there is match fixing, it'd be foolish to think otherwise.

 

Absolutely.  Much the same issues as horse racing - lots of 'events' taking place far from anyone's gaze between participants no one knows.

 

That it goes (allegedly) so high and that there has been (not allegedly) a cover up is the issue for mine.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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Game, bet and match...

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Absolutely.  Much the same issues as horse racing - lots of 'events' taking place far from anyone's gaze between participants no one knows.

 

 

 

That's an important part of it. The most recent match fixing scandal out here involved matches in the Victorian soccer State League. (It might even have been 2nd Div) For me the most amazing part was that any bookies even covered those games. By FA standards that would be 8th Division.

 

People like Djokovic or Serena wouldn't throw a match because they have a huge chance of winning millions legitimately. It's the players who regularly get knocked out in the first round of the Scunthorpe Open that you have to watch.

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That's an important part of it. The most recent match fixing scandal out here involved matches in the Victorian soccer State League. (It might even have been 2nd Div) For me the most amazing part was that any bookies even covered those games. By FA standards that would be 8th Division.

 

People like Djokovic or Serena wouldn't throw a match because they have a huge chance of winning millions legitimately. It's the players who regularly get knocked out in the first round of the Scunthorpe Open that you have to watch.

 

That would seem to be mostly true although Buzzfeed and the BBC are saying that included in the group are matches at Grand Slams and top 50 players.  I suspect there's a lot of mixed doubles in there.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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That's an important part of it. The most recent match fixing scandal out here involved matches in the Victorian soccer State League. (It might even have been 2nd Div) For me the most amazing part was that any bookies even covered those games. By FA standards that would be 8th Division.

 

People like Djokovic or Serena wouldn't throw a match because they have a huge chance of winning millions legitimately. It's the players who regularly get knocked out in the first round of the Scunthorpe Open that you have to watch.

 

It's the players who regularly get knocked out in the first round of the Scunthorpe Open that you have to watch.

 

Why? Are they good?  :biggrin:

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Losing a match deliberately at a Grand Slam makes no sense, unless the bookies pay you a very large amount. However imagine playing someone you're very likely to lose to anyway and you make sure you lose the first set 6-1 by giving up after you win a game....

"I am the avenging angel; I come with wings unfurled, I come with claws extended from halfway round the world. I am the God Almighty, I am the howling wind. I care not for your family; I care not for your kin. I come in search of terror, though terror is my own; I come in search of vengeance for crimes and crimes unknown. I care not for your children, I care not for your wives, I care not for your country, I care not for your lives." - (c) Jim Boyes - "The Avenging Angel"

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Losing a match deliberately at a Grand Slam makes no sense, unless the bookies pay you a very large amount. However imagine playing someone you're very likely to lose to anyway and you make sure you lose the first set 6-1 by giving up after you win a game....

 

The pattern in Indian/Pakistani cricket betting wasn't about losing games but like you state, about bowling No Balls or Wides on a certain delivery. In your example, if you and I are ranked 90 and 91 in the ATP rankings, we're not going to win a grand slam so $50K might be a big payday - especially if we play 10 tournaments a year + doubles.

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That's an important part of it. The most recent match fixing scandal out here involved matches in the Victorian soccer State League. (It might even have been 2nd Div) For me the most amazing part was that any bookies even covered those games. By FA standards that would be 8th Division.

 

 

I was watching a tv programme a year or so back about match fixing in soccer. The match fixers tend to favour the smaller games because there's less focus on them and the players/refs are more easily bribed. They even went to the trouble of organising their own under 16 tournament. They then wait for bookmakers to come up with the odds and then they make a killing. You'd be surprised just what sort of sports and tournaments bookies will give odds on. Obviously the biggest amount of gambling on soccer worldwide, especially in the far east, is the EPL but that would take millions to pull off. That's not to say it hasn't/won't ever happen.

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The pattern in Indian/Pakistani cricket betting wasn't about losing games but like you state, about bowling No Balls or Wides on a certain delivery. In your example, if you and I are ranked 90 and 91 in the ATP rankings, we're not going to win a grand slam so $50K might be a big payday - especially if we play 10 tournaments a year + doubles.

As a jobbing Tennis professional, you'd be playing in a lot more than 10 tournaments a year, and trying to find a way to pay for the travel and other costs when you'd not expecting to win much prize money.

 

Given that betting on the sport is so big (which I didn't know 'til this story broke), the temptations must be frequent, even if it's just to serve a double fault at a certain point in the match or something similar.

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Existential crisis at the Beeb. Second only to union as a pet sport of theirs.

I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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Existential crisis at the Beeb. Second only to union as a pet sport of theirs.

The BBC cover a lot less Tennis than they used to.

 

Their love of Snooker, on the other hand, as a bulk schedule-filler that's cheaper to broadcast than (but just as hour-consuming as) Golf, seems to be as strong as ever.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
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