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3 hours ago, ckn said:

Do we pull every film ever where a white person was made up as a non-white person? None would be acceptable now, but were at the time.

For example, Breakfast at Tiffany's with Mickey Rooney playing an asian man in a frankly insulting and outrageous way that would never get broadcast in a modern film.

I genuinely don't know the answer to this. We'd have a lot of content cut if we went down that line, but then is it still acceptable to be there now we know better?

I'm confused...

My preference would be to alter the age rating on such shows. There’s plenty of warnings about sex, violence etc maybe this would be the “grown up” thing to do

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3 hours ago, Bleep1673 said:

Gone with the Wind pulled from Netflix because of portrayal of black servants

Sorry, my mistake HBO


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2 hours ago, Bleep1673 said:

Sorry, my mistake HBO

I was looking for some music from the forties and there was Al Jolson with whole army of blacked up singers like it wasn't enough one fool doing it.


 

 

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People should just get used to the fact that you can`t re-write history , you can only learn from your mistakes and move on .

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2 hours ago, ivans82 said:

People should just get used to the fact that you can`t re-write history , you can only learn from your mistakes and move on .

You absolutely can rewrite history. History is no more than an interpretation of sources, and the accuracy of that interpretation is entirely based on the sources at the time. That interpretation is constantly evolving and never set in stone - a good historian knows that.

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Well we have predicted the future again.......UKTV has now pulled the Fawlty Towers episode The Germans because of "racial slurs" and because of The Majors highly offensive language about the West Indies cricket team .Yet again missing the point as Basil comes over as the bigot where as the Germans are well behaved and polite , likewise the Major is just cast as a muddled headed old gentleman with old fashioned out of date values..........Thankfully for once the person who wrote and acted the episode John Cleese didn`t apologise but described the move as stupid .

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4 hours ago, ivans82 said:

Well we have predicted the future again.......UKTV has now pulled the Fawlty Towers episode The Germans because of "racial slurs" and because of The Majors highly offensive language about the West Indies cricket team .Yet again missing the point as Basil comes over as the bigot where as the Germans are well behaved and polite , likewise the Major is just cast as a muddled headed old gentleman with old fashioned out of date values..........Thankfully for once the person who wrote and acted the episode John Cleese didn`t apologise but described the move as stupid .

They don't understand satire and subtlety. 

I read one of them mentioning rising damp which of course was poking fun at ignorance - Philip always came out on top. 

 

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23 minutes ago, Niels said:

They don't understand satire and subtlety. 

I read one of them mentioning rising damp which of course was poking fun at ignorance - Philip always came out on top. 

 

There was a great programme about making Rising Damp the other week, Don Warrington helped present it, explaining how it came about, and the fun he had making it, if he wasn't worried about stereotyping why should anyone else?

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9 hours ago, ivans82 said:

People should just get used to the fact that you can`t re-write history , you can only learn from your mistakes and move on .

Indeed. Whether a statue or a TV program is there tomorrow is not history. 

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32 minutes ago, Bleep1673 said:

There was a great programme about making Rising Damp the other week, Don Warrington helped present it, explaining how it came about, and the fun he had making it, if he wasn't worried about stereotyping why should anyone else?

I saw that , Don Warrington was excellent and it set up his career ( including a cushy decade in the Caribbean with a few lines a week ! ) . I also saw one on Porridge with Tony Osoba ( Sonny Jock McLaren ) , who said he was the first Scottish black actor on telly and how it encouraged others from his background , and what a joy it was that has never dated , and he still watches and  is proud of 

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Regarding 'Fawlty Towers' someone on Twitter posted this, so it might be worth finding out if it is true or not.

@gdimelow
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For the last ####### time:
1) It’s not because of the war
2) It’s about repeated use of the N word
3) BBC edited the offending scene in 2013
4) Cleese fully approved of it
5) Netflix & UKTV were airing unedited version 
6) Edited version will likely be used in future


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This has been bugging me since covid started but didnt know what thrrad to put it on. Masks and gloves. I work in a supermarket and see customers some day wearing them the next not. Whats that about its not hay fever where one day may be worse than the other. 

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19 hours ago, Futtocks said:

Regarding 'Fawlty Towers' someone on Twitter posted this, so it might be worth finding out if it is true or not.

@gdimelow
11h
For the last ####### time:
1) It’s not because of the war
2) It’s about repeated use of the N word
3) BBC edited the offending scene in 2013
4) Cleese fully approved of it
5) Netflix & UKTV were airing unedited version 
6) Edited version will likely be used in future

Yes, that is the reason. UKTV have confirmed it'll probably take a couple of days to work a new warning up front and then it'll be back. 

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It's the way you tell 'em. From 2013.

A BBC spokesman said: ‘We are very proud of Fawlty Towers and its contribution to British television comedy.. But public attitudes have changed significantly since it was made and it was decided to make some minor changes, with the consent of John Cleese’s management, to allow the episode to transmit to a family audience at 7.30pm on BBC2.’

Link kindly provided by the BBC

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266738/Censorship-row-BBC-cuts-racist-lines-classic-Fawlty-Towers-episode.html


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6 hours ago, JohnM said:

 to allow the episode to transmit to a family audience at 7.30pm on BBC2.’

So the episode with the Hotel sign changed to Flowery Tw*ts will still be shown at 7.30pm then?

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OK, I am looking to buy a scooter, to give me more options with regards to travel & work, and I saw a very nice 292cc scooter for sale in S. Manchester for £3,500 (delivery £99), but when I went to check out the insurance it was over £9,500. Three times, nearly, the cost of the bike. I do not have a bike license as yet, is this what has pushed the insurance so high? When I was looking at 125cc bikes the Insurance (or as Terry Prtchett puts it, Inn-Sewer-Ants) was affordable, maybe I should stick to 125cc until I pass my test.


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24 minutes ago, Bleep1673 said:

OK, I am looking to buy a scooter, to give me more options with regards to travel & work, and I saw a very nice 292cc scooter for sale in S. Manchester for £3,500 (delivery £99), but when I went to check out the insurance it was over £9,500. Three times, nearly, the cost of the bike. I do not have a bike license as yet, is this what has pushed the insurance so high? When I was looking at 125cc bikes the Insurance (or as Terry Prtchett puts it, Inn-Sewer-Ants) was affordable, maybe I should stick to 125cc until I pass my test.

An electric bicycle as an alternative option, maybe? It'll still add some miles to your range.

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17 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

An electric bicycle as an alternative option, maybe? It'll still add some miles to your range.

Possibly


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13 minutes ago, Bleep1673 said:

Possibly

Also, no insurance (other than as a possession) and no tests to pass.


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I've been sat quiet in the living room, just browsing the web all morning. Another member of the household comes in and turns the TV on, turns the volume right up and starts flicking through the channels and putting on some garbage that they aren't even interested in watching.

Why do people think that the TV absolutely has to be on all the time? This often happens in my house. TV is turned on then this is said, "there's nowt on, I'll just stick this on". Random show they aren't interested in goes on. I say, "why don't you just turn it off then?", followed by, "what else am I supposed to do?" how about not disturb me when I'm just relaxing and enjoying the silence?! How about go away?! At least ask if it's okay to turn the TV on! 

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I have just been to PC World for some printer cartridges, due to the buses being on an emergency timetable, and roadworks on the way there it took me nearly an hour to get there, when I did get to the front of the queue the person on the door asked me what I was there for, when I told him, he said they have not had a delivery of cartridges for weeks, when I asked if I could go and check for myself, he let me in, lo and behold they had my cartridges, and lots of them. I told the shop manager & she said it was because they were limiting the distribution. I then had to wait a full hour for a return bus that is supposed to be 4 an hour.


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2 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I've been sat quiet in the living room, just browsing the web all morning. Another member of the household comes in and turns the TV on, turns the volume right up and starts flicking through the channels and putting on some garbage that they aren't even interested in watching.

Why do people think that the TV absolutely has to be on all the time? This often happens in my house. TV is turned on then this is said, "there's nowt on, I'll just stick this on". Random show they aren't interested in goes on. I say, "why don't you just turn it off then?", followed by, "what else am I supposed to do?" how about not disturb me when I'm just relaxing and enjoying the silence?! How about go away?! At least ask if it's okay to turn the TV on! 

I didn't realise you lived in my house ? ?

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2 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I've been sat quiet in the living room, just browsing the web all morning. Another member of the household comes in and turns the TV on, turns the volume right up and starts flicking through the channels and putting on some garbage that they aren't even interested in watching.

Why do people think that the TV absolutely has to be on all the time? This often happens in my house. TV is turned on then this is said, "there's nowt on, I'll just stick this on". Random show they aren't interested in goes on. I say, "why don't you just turn it off then?", followed by, "what else am I supposed to do?" how about not disturb me when I'm just relaxing and enjoying the silence?! How about go away?! At least ask if it's okay to turn the TV on! 

You could do something else, maybe go out on a motorbike ride

Photographer Renato Navarro captures Vietnam biker carrying geese ...

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