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9 minutes ago, Shadow said:

So because science can’t explain it or you can’t understand it........magic?

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34 minutes ago, southwalesrabbitoh said:

No, i believe a spiritual being formed, don't you feel something sometimes? I think it's either God or my father giving me the occasional pointers. 

No. Understanding the processes that lead to the world as it is now is far more satisfying than assuming your invisible friend, (who is the real invisible friend, every one else’s invisible friend is made up) made it.

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8 hours ago, Shadow said:

No. Understanding the processes that lead to the world as it is now is far more satisfying than assuming your invisible friend, (who is the real invisible friend, every one else’s invisible friend is made up) made it.

 

8 hours ago, southwalesrabbitoh said:

Scientists have admitted that they'll never understand everything.

And the fact is you can't prove that there isn't a God and i can't prove that there is; and as has been said before, that's why it's called faith. I suppose not everybody needs God, suppose i do. I'm probably mentally weak.

I am Church going Catholic.

Science gives us a model of the observable world far better than anything in a religious book. Arguing for a God of the gaps is stupid, as it keeps getting smaller and smaller. Also, having a God that sits on a cloud is within observable reality and suggests there is nothing greater.

Science does not deal with any deeper reality. It you look at the story of Abraham and think the details are important as this is a forensic accounts, you are missing a deep spiritural message that has been preserved for thousands of years.

So, stop it! :D

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9 hours ago, Shadow said:

No. Understanding the processes that lead to the world as it is now is far more satisfying than assuming your invisible friend, (who is the real invisible friend, every one else’s invisible friend is made up) made it.

Science can "prove" all kind of things 

 

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1 minute ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

Science can "prove" all kind of things 

 

And yet offers no explanation for those shirt cuffs.

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14 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

I'm sure you'll be welcomed here on Sunday morning ?

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What's Hogwarts got to do with anything?

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57 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

Science can "prove" all kind of things 

 

"It's all done for redemption"

So He went to all that trouble to make us flawed, so that we can use our free will to correct the flaw that He made inherent in us? 

That's going well..

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I pay good money for something. All I ask is that it fulfills the function I bought it for.To be fair it is unusual when it doesn't.

Why then, when I buy on line am I pestered by the vendor to leave a review?.

All I want is for it to do what it says on the tin. Do I have to be grateful too?

You have had my money, just be grateful that I bought from you in the first place 

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On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 9:39 AM, Wiltshire Rhino said:

I'm sure you'll be welcomed here on Sunday morning ?

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Ah, Salisbury Cathedral. One of the finest pieces of Architecture in Wiltshire. I am not religious, but I recognise beautiful Architecture when I see it. One of my optional subjects at school was "History of Architecture", and it was the only subject I was really interested in. I have visited most of the major cathedrals in England & Wales, and many Castles and manors, Living in Sussex I find many more interesting buildings than there was in Salford when I was doing my exam!  

Arundel Castle, Leeds Castle (Kent), Cardiff, Dover & Hastings Castles, Canterbury, Royal Pavillions, Brighton, Chester, Beverly, Truro, Bristol. And don't forget I lived in London for 30ish years. 

Paris, Carcassonne, Madrid & Barcelona, Egypt, Rome, and many more in Norman/Medieval Sussex

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On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 9:39 AM, Wiltshire Rhino said:

I'm sure you'll be welcomed here on Sunday morning ?

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They built this with wooden poles for scaffolding, held together with rope, no H & S rules, just pure faith. Spire is 123m high, opened in 1258

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1 hour ago, Bleep1673 said:

Brussels, Amsterdam, Lyon, Ypres, York, Norwich, Arnhem, 

 

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1 hour ago, Bleep1673 said:

Ah, Salisbury Cathedral. One of the finest pieces of Architecture in Wiltshire. I am not religious, but I recognise beautiful Architecture when I see it. One of my optional subjects at school was "History of Architecture", and it was the only subject I was really interested in. I have visited most of the major cathedrals in England & Wales, and many Castles and manors, Living in Sussex I find many more interesting buildings than there was in Salford when I was doing my exam!  

Arundel Castle, Leeds Castle (Kent), Cardiff, Dover & Hastings Castles, Canterbury, Royal Pavillions, Brighton, Chester, Beverly, Truro, Bristol. And don't forget I lived in London for 30ish years. 

Paris, Carcassonne, Madrid & Barcelona, Egypt, Rome, and many more in Norman/Medieval Sussex

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8 minutes ago, ckn said:

Are you sure you aren't a Russian spy? ?

A list of places to avoid touching door handles I think.

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9 minutes ago, ckn said:

Are you sure you aren't a Russian spy? ?

To be fair, he's never claimed he wasn't.

Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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On my subject of rubbish flags, I drive past this house with an English flag out front about twice a week. It’s usually grey and faded red with England across the horizontal centre bar. Today I noticed that the flag has finally frayed down to just “En” and a bit of “g” left on it.  It’s literally around 1/3 of a flag left.

Oh come on... you’d struggle to be less respectful if you got an English flag, wiped your bum with it outside Bucks Palace then fed it through a shredder. 

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