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18-19 Oct: World Cup 9s (TV)

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27 minutes ago, EagleEyePie said:

I agree. It's not like this was a full on test match, and the Saints players were getting weeks off during the playoffs. When the side was announced I was surprised Gildart wasn't in there. Very good taking the ball into contact, rapid and with good hands. That's the type of player you need for 9's.

Selecting Hall and McGilvary as our wingers is just odd. They are slower than a lot of forwards. We also had too many playmakers. Tomkins was a smart selection, he's suited to this style, but why Widdop? He's not a dynamic attacking player. Then you've got Graham and Sutton in the pack, who haven't got the pace or explosive running as their rivals from down under. The Aussie side looks to have a fair few younger forwards and definitely younger outside backs.

Bennett just treated it as a GB warm up. I can understand there are concerns about who plays with GB tests coming up but I wouldn't have minded if GB players weren't eligible for selection - we could still have fielded a half decent side for 9's.

I dont think the playmakers was the issue. The times we looked good we looked dangerous with Widdop, Austin and Tomkins creating. Unfortunately if you make a break and it is Graham or Sutton in support, or your wingers are Hall or McGillvary then you quickly see the issue.

You need players that if they make a break 50m out, they are fast enough to score.

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Unless my plans have a last-minute change, I have booked next Friday off work, when the Jillaroos and Ferns face each other in 13-a-side. Looking forward to it!

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8 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Couple of decent looking Sheilas in the Aussie women team

Have a look at Tiana Penitani's Instagram. They really should use her for promotional work.

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So what do we think of this comp?

For me it’s been great TV with some excellent rugby and some shocks along the way. You have to worry about whether it’s been a commercial flop but it would be a pity if they ditched it. 

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12 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I dont think the playmakers was the issue. The times we looked good we looked dangerous with Widdop, Austin and Tomkins creating. Unfortunately if you make a break and it is Graham or Sutton in support, or your wingers are Hall or McGillvary then you quickly see the issue.

You need players that if they make a break 50m out, they are fast enough to score.

True but I think Widdop was surplus. He can't go through gaps and if you're using several playmakers at some point they will need to support and go through gaps themselves and that's where Widdop doesn't offer enough in this format. The wingers were the biggest issue of course, but I think maybe another outside back or two in the team would have offered a bigger threat. Sacrifice one playmaker for a centre and I think the balance is better.

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3 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

So what do we think of this comp?

For me it’s been great TV with some excellent rugby and some shocks along the way. You have to worry about whether it’s been a commercial flop but it would be a pity if they ditched it. 

Definitely a keeper, especially if England pick a specialist Nines squad next time.

Edit: and, as Scotchy pointed out, make it Saturday/Sunday instead of Friday/Saturday. That's a no-brainer.

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2 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

So what do we think of this comp?

For me it’s been great TV with some excellent rugby and some shocks along the way. You have to worry about whether it’s been a commercial flop but it would be a pity if they ditched it. 

Great fun for a Saturday morning on the sofa

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I’ve loved watching it today. I think we have a chance to use this as a completely new vehicle for the international game, a bit like union sevens. We’ll need familiar names for the first couple of years to get the fans to buy in to the concept but I could see us ending up with teams of Nines specialists, as it is a very different game. Could be fantastic played around the world like the union sevens 

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3 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

 

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3 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Great fun for a Saturday morning on the sofa

Can't argue with that.

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1 minute ago, DiH68 said:

I’ve loved watching it today. I think we have a chance to use this as a completely new vehicle for the international game, a bit like union sevens. We’ll need familiar names for the first couple of years to get the fans to buy in to the concept but I could see us ending up with teams of Nines specialists, as it is a very different game. Could be fantastic played around the world like the union sevens 

I can see it evolving into sort-of touch rugby with contact, if you follow me. Speed merchants and ball skills.

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The OZ selection has been pretty consistent: 3 back rowers, 3 halves and the rest FBs and wingers.

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Good start for the Kiwis, forcing Feldt back over his tryline.


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Perfect first set from the Kiwis.


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CNK taps a long pass further on to Smith for the first score. Great execution.


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Ball steal with two in the tackle, decision amazingly goes against the Kiwis.

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Loose tackling lets Moses through for a five-pointer.


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Issako's seventh means the Kiwis strike back immediately.


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