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TWP need to be careful.. SBW is one thing, we know he can play.  But if too many of their high earners are inexperienced League players from rah rah they risk being uncompetitive and having an unbalanced side.  They won't win SL with a squad of players who are learning the game and may or not succeed in what is actually a very different sport.  If Burgess and Farrell played centre in rah rah (I think that's right?)  I can only assume a rah rah centre is very different to a League centre!!

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1 hour ago, Kayakman said:

Based on the fact that having a good straight running powerful prop forward is a good thing!

The bit I was referring to and highlighted in bold......? 

What makes you think they're close to signing him? 

 

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3 hours ago, gnidir said:

Im surprised Latrell Mitchells name hasn't popped up yet.

Why would they throw huge money at Manu Tuilangi if they could possibly get Mitchell for a season or two.

Because no-one, absolutely no-one, who hasn't an in depth knowledge of the NRL has a clue who Latrell Mitchell is. 

Manu Tuilagi, on the other hand, is far better known (rightly or wrongly) and will generate interest in the team and game outside its established communities.

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5 hours ago, Blackpool rl said:

Tuilagi is under contract with Leicester until June 2021. He won't be the same player then and will rapidly decline. This is for publicity. 

Read the article. It says TWP are trying to buy out the remainder of his contract.

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31 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

The bit I was referring to and highlighted in bold......? 

What makes you think they're close to signing him? 

 

Read the above post from Westside.

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2 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

Oh dear, so you have nothing more than a UK tabloid rag to go off? I'll go back to my earlier statement - not a chance this will happen. 

There is more....why don't you send him a twitter and ask?

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1 hour ago, Tre Cool said:

TWP need to be careful.. SBW is one thing, we know he can play.  But if too many of their high earners are inexperienced League players from rah rah they risk being uncompetitive and having an unbalanced side.  They won't win SL with a squad of players who are learning the game and may or not succeed in what is actually a very different sport.  If Burgess and Farrell played centre in rah rah (I think that's right?)  I can only assume a rah rah centre is very different to a League centre!!

TWP are responsible for their actions.  Sonny Bill could have a serious injury and his presence then will be diluted.  Tuilagi could be the next John Gallagher and bottle it.  He’ll soon realise there’s more this game than a spin pass.

The biggest step to climb will be the workrate.  

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6 hours ago, Dave T said:

It all goes back to being aspirational doesnt it? Something which we have forgotten as a game as the buzz word was sustainability.

I suppose that makes sense with an accountant in charge for so long.

It feels like we have maybe gone through our period of austerity, got our house in order (in the main) and now is the time to get the swagger back. I think the introduction of marquee players a couple of years ago was a good sign, although as expected the vast majority are not true marquee players I.e. putting bums on seats.

That’s bang right Dave , when you have a failed accountant running the game they know nothing about bringing the sparkle and bums on seats! Barba was great for SL and we need as many of those types as possible. We are just going down the percentage game of 5 drives and a kick and force an error, that is not why we signed up to the running code of rugby

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1 hour ago, Lowdesert said:

TWP are responsible for their actions.  Sonny Bill could have a serious injury and his presence then will be diluted.  Tuilagi could be the next John Gallagher and bottle it.  He’ll soon realise there’s more this game than a spin pass.

The biggest step to climb will be the workrate.  

I imagine if Tuilagi got hit by a Karl Fairbank character he would give just as good as he got ! Gallagher was mentally weak as Mr Fairbanks proved.

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30 minutes ago, iangidds said:

I imagine if Tuilagi got hit by a Karl Fairbank character he would give just as good as he got ! Gallagher was mentally weak as Mr Fairbanks proved.

We shall see.  It’s not just about throwing a few fists.  Whether he’s an ru international or not, he will have his work cut out dealing with the speed of the game.

Hopefully, this could be the trigger for one or two from ru to try it.  All publicity is good imo.

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3 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

We shall see.  It’s not just about throwing a few fists.  Whether he’s an ru international or not, he will have his work cut out dealing with the speed of the game.

Hopefully, this could be the trigger for one or two from ru to try it.  All publicity is good imo.

 

4 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

We shall see.  It’s not just about throwing a few fists.  Whether he’s an ru international or not, he will have his work cut out dealing with the speed of the game.

Hopefully, this could be the trigger for one or two from ru to try it.  All publicity is good imo.

Just for the record Fairbanks did not punch Gallagher 

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3 hours ago, Tre Cool said:

TWP need to be careful.. SBW is one thing, we know he can play.  But if too many of their high earners are inexperienced League players from rah rah they risk being uncompetitive and having an unbalanced side.  They won't win SL with a squad of players who are learning the game and may or not succeed in what is actually a very different sport.  If Burgess and Farrell played centre in rah rah (I think that's right?)  I can only assume a rah rah centre is very different to a League centre!!

There are some big lumps playing centre in Union, the 'crash ball's type of centre who's primary role is to take the ball to the gain line (usually first phase from a set piece) and recycle quick ball. This is the role that England had for Farell and subsequently Burgess.

Conversely there are some very athletic players who are good on their feet... like Jonathan Joseph at Bath. As an example, Kyle Eastmond plays centre in Union.

Despite his size, Tuilagi is in the latter category.  He is good on his feet for a big man and more than just a 'bash and barge' centre. 

I disagree with a couple of others who have said move him to the pack in League. I think he could be an absolutely destructive runner in the centre and would keep him there.

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52 minutes ago, iangidds said:

We are just going down the percentage game of 5 drives and a kick and force an error, that is not why we signed up to the running code of rugby

Don't get me started on this one mate! :kolobok_biggrin:

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Tuilagi is basically Konrad Hurrell but ten times the price. 

Is he worth it? No.

Would I like to see David Arygle spunk more of his money on him anyway? Yes.

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23 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Would I like to see David Arygle spunk more of his money on him anyway? Yes.

Why?

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He could be a good league centre and certainly entertaining.  He’s also a potentially huge commodity of the field.

The Wolfpack can make their own decision about whether he’s “worth” £x a year to them and, were it not for the salary cap, it wouldn’t be anyone else’s business either.

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5 hours ago, Dunbar said:

There are some big lumps playing centre in Union, the 'crash ball's type of centre who's primary role is to take the ball to the gain line (usually first phase from a set piece) and recycle quick ball. This is the role that England had for Farell and subsequently Burgess.

Conversely there are some very athletic players who are good on their feet... like Jonathan Joseph at Bath. As an example, Kyle Eastmond plays centre in Union.

Despite his size, Tuilagi is in the latter category.  He is good on his feet for a big man and more than just a 'bash and barge' centre. 

I disagree with a couple of others who have said move him to the pack in League. I think he could be an absolutely destructive runner in the centre and would keep him there.

Oh yah yah i agree, i love the way he rucks the ball on the third breakdown after the number 11 gouges the rolling maul into the turnover yah.

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