Gooleboy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, PEANUT HEAD said: He's a good artist, he works for Disney. Not a #### artist then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Evans Thigh Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, winnyason said: Look let's be clear here there a reason the nrl looking to get involved in this league and it's not because it's well run. Blind freddy can see its run pathetically and not going in the right direction. Supporters like yourself may have to look at that reality at some stage. Now that we can agree on. Formerly Alistair Boyd-Meaney fifty thousand Poouunds from Keighley...weve had im gid." MIPM Project Management and Business Solutions " Discounts available for forum members contact me for details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 After the news about London wanting to move to AFC Wimbledon for the 2021 season, I’d say the odds on the Broncos have shortened quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnyason Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Yet another display of immense arrogance , believing they can drastically change the sport ( well SL ) in the UK/ France Arrogrance or truth I know which one it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Man of Kent said: After the news about London wanting to move to AFC Wimbledon for the 2021 season, I’d say the odds on the Broncos have shortened quite a bit. Agreed, or perhaps they know what's coming for 2022 and are prepping for "selection" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnyason Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Cardypaul said: No you are the one that needs to take a look at yourself Rugby League is supposed to be a competitive sport, not a popularity contest or a business deal it’s about what happens on the field. Yeah yeah the ceo of superleague does he wear a clown suit ? Edited December 12, 2020 by winnyason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardypaul Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, winnyason said: Yeah yeah the ceo of superleague does he wear a clown suit ? Probably if you look at the job he does. Superleague was set up to improve facilities for players and spectators and to drive up standards so we could beat the Aussies and it has failed on all counts. SL has just become a business tool which is used by clubs to drive their own agendas and business objectives. Competitive sport should be about success clubs striving to win not just making money and keeping their place in the cash cow! I hear arguments about what can a club bring to the league the real answer should be competition on the field not what happens off it and if you can’t see it then maybe sport is not for you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 You’d fancy London’s chances now, wouldn’t you? The move to Wimbledon would seem a little unusual without this promotion available and given that they seemed to finance the addition of a stand at Ealing for 2019. I wonder if this, London getting the position, is a piece in a bigger jigsaw relating to either a partnership with NRL and/or private equity investment in the game. History suggests that this is ground well trodden though. London seem to move every few years and we should probably expect another move in a few years, especially given the break clause. There’s little, at this stage, to suggest much will change. There could be a new investor, perhaps, hopefully there is because the foundations, the Academy, at London are pretty impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnleywelsh Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 22:46, Henson Park Old Firm said: new stadium? the place only holds 4k AFC Wimbledon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogdance Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 In my opinion Leigh, London & Featherstone have no chance of being placed in SL. Toulouse will be (not because they deserve it) but because they are based in France. Bradford Bulls or York are my long shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Mackem Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said: You’d fancy London’s chances now, wouldn’t you? The move to Wimbledon would seem a little unusual without this promotion available and given that they seemed to finance the addition of a stand at Ealing for 2019. I wonder if this, London getting the position, is a piece in a bigger jigsaw relating to either a partnership with NRL and/or private equity investment in the game. History suggests that this is ground well trodden though. London seem to move every few years and we should probably expect another move in a few years, especially given the break clause. There’s little, at this stage, to suggest much will change. There could be a new investor, perhaps, hopefully there is because the foundations, the Academy, at London are pretty impressive. If only the broncos had the academy setup of today back in the late 90’s during the Richard Brandon stoop era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Cardypaul said:  Superleague was set up to improve facilities for players and spectators and to drive up standards so we could beat the Aussies and it has failed on all counts. Competitive sport should be about success clubs striving to win not just making money and keeping their place in the cash cow! You genuinely think facilities haven't improved during the SL era? You are wrong. You think SL is all about making money? Wrong again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It’s interesting that even a day before the announcement I don’t see a clear front runner. All six applicants have their merits, in fact all have a strong case except Bradford, and I really can’t put a pin between them in terms of who SL (sorry the independent panel) will choose. It shows that there is strength below SL, which is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Its london now!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Mackem Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I agree that it’s London who are the favourites now. In an ideal world I’d like to see no relegation from super league in 2021 and see the top 2 teams in the championship promoted for a 14 team super league in 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 hours ago, winnyason said: My reason is simply if superleague wants credibility then expanding to Toulouse gives this if not and it expands to a heartland club then its  a insular game for northern englanders only not interested in expanding the sport being held down by a small clubs who have zero ambition and only looking at survival.  Well why didn't you say that in the first place instead of some pipedream that 2 clubs in France is suddenly going to entice SL quality French youngsters into the fold. It goes much deeper than the clubs playing in the British League, the system in France that produces player's requires a good dose of looking at if it is to produce player's of the required standard in numbers, there is a good reason why Catalan have gone overseas for the majority of their playing roster whilst in SL, Toulouse have no option but to do the same if they are to be competitive. I hope these French lads that Catalan are signing make the grade, but will they be played if the results are going against Catalan? I will leave you to answer that Winny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Man of Kent said: After the news about London wanting to move to AFC Wimbledon for the 2021 season, I’d say the odds on the Broncos have shortened quite a bit. There's a massive difference in 'wanting' to and having it 'rubber stamped - approved' it means absolutely zilch in any submission. So unless the Broncos can come up with something concrete before 'high noon' tomorrow then the odds to receive the nod are as long as they have ever been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Eddie said: It shows that there is strength below SL, which is great. What in your opinion has created that strength Eddie, what is different now than say 7 or 8 years ago when the Championship was floundering? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: There's a massive difference in 'wanting' to and having it 'rubber stamped - approved' it means absolutely zilch in any submission. So unless the Broncos can come up with something concrete before 'high noon' tomorrow then the odds to receive the nod are as long as they have ever been. I agree. If the decision is Monday then I don't possibly see how any unconfirmed move can have a bearing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hela Wigmen Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It seems like a survey has been or is being undertaken by AFCW fans, who are also the owners. I’m guessing it would then go to a board meeting to discuss the results before possibly giving the green light to London Broncos. Given that the news seemed to all come out very quickly last night, it would be almost unheard of to get the surveys back, collate the results and then hold a board meeting to discuss it before Monday at midday. That said, if Bradford’s bid centres around the moving of stadia, I see no reason why London’s can’t be either. It doesn’t particularly make either look particularly strong, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: What in your opinion has created that strength Eddie, what is different now than say 7 or 8 years ago when the Championship was floundering? Owners of clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Tommygilf said: Agreed, or perhaps they know what's coming for 2022 and are prepping for "selection" You quite like the conspiracy of 'insider' information being given to certain clubs firstly Bradford now London, perhaps the 'leaks' could have been done for reverse reasons that both these clubs have facilities that are an embarrassment to the hierarchy, telling them they should improve and........... just a red herring! What about the clubs that have already done all the prep work, does that not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eddie said: Owners of clubs. In that they have invested more? Interesting what do you think has enticed them to do that, that being the reason? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Tex Evans Thigh said: we really need to be getting away from owner reliant clubs given the situation we are in. Big statement Tex, especially so in the week that one of our biggest clubs being Wigan has published it's financial return and disclosed it is again in the red, with the shortfall being made up by the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: You quite like the conspiracy of 'insider' information being given to certain clubs firstly Bradford now London, perhaps the 'leaks' could have been done for reverse reasons that both these clubs have facilities that are an embarrassment to the hierarchy, telling them they should improve and........... just a red herring! What about the clubs that have already done all the prep work, does that not count? Depends if you're wanted or not in line with SLE's vision. I say this Harry because do you honestly believe this is will be a fair and open process? Edited December 13, 2020 by Tommygilf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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