HawkMan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Who is going to win the Euros, who would you like to win it, do you care and how much will you watch ? Edited June 23, 2021 by HawkMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I’ve voted for France; just because I don’t know the state of the other favourites in the competition less England. How strong are Spain and Germany? Italy strengthened after their recent fall from the top? The Portuguese always do well in these tournaments too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I’ve voted for france . I expect little from us . I find Southgate’s teams reflect Southgate , boring and bland . It’s painful watching us . He loves to rely on set pieces so I’m surprised he didn’t pick Ward-Prowse in among his 57 defenders , I’m sure he could fit in at right back if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 I think England will be 2nd in the group stages, Croatia will probably beat us first match, but Scotland and Czechia should not be a problem. I think a quarter final is where we'll end up, so a failure then. Meanwhile the fun has started. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57379875 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I think Italy are peaking at the right time, have a settled team and a group that looks promising for them. I don’t feel good at all about England’s defence which is the weakest and most inexperienced part of the team in terms of big time football. Maybe they’ll rise to the occasion. My other shout was for Spain as they looked great in the last few months playing other top European nations. However their preparations have been thrown into disarray due to Covid which will either galvanise or break them I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnoco Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) No idea who are favourites and I honestly have no idea who is good or bad for England. But I'll watch the England games anyway. They do seem a bloody boring side to watch but I hope I'm wrong, I haven't really watched enough of them lately to have a real opinion. Edited June 8, 2021 by Johnoco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommygilf Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Its hard to look past France, on paper their second team would be good enough to win. That said the Euros have a way of enabling sides who are plucky or take their rare chances. Denmark, Greece, even Wales and Iceland making it very far etc. Only Spain in 2008-2012 properly dominated like a tournament favourite should on the way to winning. Sadly I don't see England in that same way. Perhaps its 23 years of punishment forcing me to be pessimistic? That said, low expectations were good in the most recent world cup. My main gripe is that we still don't seem to be able to attack creatively outside of set pieces despite having as good an attack as anyone in the world. Germany, Italy and Spain look solid as ever. The Netherlands are finally coming good again after a few years in the doldrums. Belgium, like England, have so much talent but just don't seem to be able to get the best out of it in a creative sense at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Our midfield was absolute rubbish in recent tournaments , devoid of any creativity , drive or threat at all . Hopefully Henderson won’t get fit and Southgate decides to play some players who can actually be lively and go forward , rather than pass endlessly sideways and backwards very slowly . There’s this thing about possession , which is pointless really if you’re going nowhere . Just have a go at least and we’ll accept failure a bit easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Tommygilf said: Perhaps its 23 years of punishment forcing me to be pessimistic? Noob. 1 2 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Noob. Well I say 23 years, I can actually only remember as far back as Euro2004... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Well I say 23 years, I can actually only remember as far back as Euro2004... Really should have beaten Portugal. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Really should have beaten Portugal. God yes , that was the tournament . Rooney would have won us that comp , one hundred percent . But even then we scored and just stopped playing . I clearly remember Motson saying ‘ England are playing like it’s the last 5 minutes ‘ . Then the goal we conceded , then the disallowed goal ... If tournaments were won on what ifs we’d have stars galore on our strip . We do get some bad luck as well mind , added to often not being quite good enough or having the winning mentality when it really counts . And a bit of shooting ourselves in the head . Apart from that tournaments are great fun Edited June 8, 2021 by DavidM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, DavidM said: God yes , that was the tournament . Rooney would have won us that comp , then the usual bad luck struck . But even then we scored and just stopped playing . I clearly remember Motson saying ‘ England are playing like it’s the last 5 minutes ‘ . Then the goal we conceded , then the disallowed goal ... If tournaments were won on what ifs we’d have stars galore on our strip . We do get some bad luck as well mind , added to often not being quite good enough or having the winning mentality when it really counts . And a bit of shooting ourselves in the head . Apart from that tournaments are great fun Yeah, in many ways, that was the one more than Euro 96 because the path was right there. I'm a very fairweather England fan so I'm not even sure when or who we're playing in the group stages. I'll pay proper attention if we look like doing anything interesting. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 One thing I remember about that match was Ashley Cole chasing Ronaldo up and down the wing all night and doing a great job . Greece winning it just made it sink home even more , we had a good side there . Euro 96 all I see is Gazza not getting his sliding foot on that ball and Andy Moller taking the proverbial after the penalty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, DavidM said: One thing I remember about that match was Ashley Cole chasing Ronaldo up and down the wing all night and doing a great job . Greece winning it just made it sink home even more , we had a good side there . Euro 96 all I see is Gazza not getting his sliding foot on that ball and Andy Moller taking the proverbial after the penalty . I was mostly incredibly drunk for Euro 96 which turned out to the best coping strategy. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 6 hours ago, Johnoco said: No idea who are favourites and I honestly have no idea who is good or bad for England. But I'll watch the England games anyway. They do seem a bloody boring side to watch but I hope I'm wrong, I haven't really watched enough of them lately to have a real opinion. Pretty much this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) I think learning to play at a slower tempo is the only hope for England if you want to win the tournament especially with it being further expanded. That’s why I think to the frustration of a lot of England fans, Southgate is deliberately preparing the ground for the long run. Realistically the format doesn’t suit us and it’s not surprising that teams either built around possession or rock solid defence or a balance will have the advantage when fatigue starts to kick in later in proceedings. There’s a lot of attacking talent in the England squad on paper, but not much of it has played together in the national team. Hopefully players can gel quickly, we’ll avoid injuries and get some luck in the tournament draw like we had in Russia. Edited June 8, 2021 by Gerrumonside ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, gingerjon said: I'm a very fairweather England fan so I'm not even sure when or who we're playing in the group stages. Croatia , Scotland and erm someone else . I’m all over it ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, DavidM said: Croatia , Scotland and erm someone else . I’m all over it ... Czech Republic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Gerrumonside ref said: Czech Republic Is it true they’re officially Czechia ? I thought I heard that somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, DavidM said: Is it true they’re officially Czechia ? I thought I heard that somewhere Aye it is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Unfortunate rebrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 By the way I do like the Ukraine top . Russia says it’s sheer political provocation . Well yeah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Seems like most of the media still using Czech Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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