SydneyRoosters Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mojo said: For aussies sake it better be In an interview a few weeks ago a reporter asked Payne haas if he would ever turn down Australia for Samoa and he said he would never do that, It’s just the news looking for stories as usual.
Dunbar Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, SydneyRoosters said: In an interview a few weeks ago a reporter asked Payne haas if he would ever turn down Australia for Samoa and he said he would never do that, It’s just the news looking for stories as usual. Last Sunday morning I swore I would never drink again. People say stuff they don't mean. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris
graveyard johnny Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Dunbar said: Here is the Kangaroos train on squad so far. Bulldogs: Matt Burton, Josh Addo-Carr Dragons: Ben Hunt Titans: Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, David Fifita Storm: Cameron Munster, Harry Grant Roosters: Joseph Suaalii, James Tedesco, Angus Crichton, Lindsay Collins Sea Eagles: Jake Trbojevic, Daly Cherry-Evans Broncos: Patrick Carrigan, Payne Haas that of course is a train on squad - that does not mean they will actually be on the plane - suaalii is as long way off that standard at the min for mine - while I would expect nicho hynes to replace burton as main utility back after the finals are done I know Bono and he knows Ono and she knows Enos phone goes thusÂ
soulboy Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 I’ve just been onto the Warrington Guardian website and there’s an article about the Rugby League Lionesses and the forthcoming World Cup . On Saturday there’s going to be an exhibition in the shopping mall on the Rugby League Lionesses and 4 ex Lionesses are going to there and are going to be interviewed by Sky . As I scrolled through the article there’s a photo of Marlie Packer who plays for the England Rah Rah team ? Is it me or do journalists do this on purpose or is it just lazy , can’t be bothered journalism who just lump Rugby League under the Rugby umbrella and just think it’s the same sport ?   Â
soulboy Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, soulboy said: I’ve just been onto the Warrington Guardian website and there’s an article about the Rugby League Lionesses and the forthcoming World Cup . On Saturday there’s going to be an exhibition in the shopping mall on the Rugby League Lionesses and 4 ex Lionesses are going to there and are going to be interviewed by Sky . As I scrolled through the article there’s a photo of Marlie Packer who plays for the England Rah Rah team ? Is it me or do journalists do this on purpose or is it just lazy , can’t be bothered journalism who just lump Rugby League under the Rugby umbrella and just think it’s the same sport ?    I’ve put this on the wrong link . Sorry .
Dunbar Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: that of course is a train on squad - that does not mean they will actually be on the plane - suaalii is as long way off that standard at the min for mine - while I would expect nicho hynes to replace burton as main utility back after the finals are done I would suggest this train on squad means that Sua'ali'i is pretty much nailed on to be on the plane. There are two wingers in this train on squad, Sua'ali'i and Addo-Carr. Here are the wingers for the teams left in the competition and who they can play for in the World Cup:  Brian To’o (Samoa) Taylan May (Samoa) Maika Sivo (Fiji) Waqa Blake (Fiji) Nick Cotric (Australia) Jordan Rapana (New Zealand) Connor Tracey (Australia) Ronaldo Mulitalo (New Zealand) Kyle Feldt (Australia) Murray Taulagi (Australia / New Zealand) Alex Johnston (PNG) Taane Milne (Fiji)  So there is Nick Cotric, Connor Tracey, Kyle Feldt and (maybe) Murray Taulagi who would quality for Australia. If, as you suggest, Sua'ali'i is not going, then you think Meninga is going to pick two of these to go with Addo-Carr as wingers? I would say there is 0% chance of that. With no Selwyn Cobbo in the train on squad, Sua'ali'i has 100% been selected as one of the Kangaroo wingers. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris
graveyard johnny Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I would suggest this train on squad means that Sua'ali'i is pretty much nailed on to be on the plane. There are two wingers in this train on squad, Sua'ali'i and Addo-Carr. Here are the wingers for the teams left in the competition and who they can play for in the World Cup:  Brian To’o (Samoa) Taylan May (Samoa) Maika Sivo (Fiji) Waqa Blake (Fiji) Nick Cotric (Australia) Jordan Rapana (New Zealand) Connor Tracey (Australia) Ronaldo Mulitalo (New Zealand) Kyle Feldt (Australia) Murray Taulagi (Australia / New Zealand) Alex Johnston (PNG) Taane Milne (Fiji)  So there is Nick Cotric, Connor Tracey, Kyle Feldt and (maybe) Murray Taulagi who would quality for Australia. If, as you suggest, Sua'ali'i is not going, then you think Meninga is going to pick two of these to go with Addo-Carr as wingers? I would say there is 0% chance of that. With no Selwyn Cobbo in the train on squad, Sua'ali'i has 100% been selected as one of the Kangaroo wingers. yes - I just meant suaalii is a long way off in my opinion from that standard at this point- when tedesco went off and manu was not there either it cost the roosters their season last weekend - JS was no substitute for either of them - maybe in 3 years time but not now I know Bono and he knows Ono and she knows Enos phone goes thusÂ
MattSantos Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: yes - I just meant suaalii is a long way off in my opinion from that standard at this point- when tedesco went off and manu was not there either it cost the roosters their season last weekend - JS was no substitute for either of them - maybe in 3 years time but not now It's off topic, but give it 2 years and i'd be replacing Tedesco with Suaalii. Is To'o definitely playing for Samoa? That'd be nice, as he'd be first winger on the Aussie team sheet. Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas
graveyard johnny Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, MattSantos said: It's off topic, but give it 2 years and i'd be replacing Tedesco with Suaalii. Is To'o definitely playing for Samoa? That'd be nice, as he'd be first winger on the Aussie team sheet. To'o hasn't exactly set the comp on fire this time round like he did last season although he may just be coming back to full fitness and form right now I know Bono and he knows Ono and she knows Enos phone goes thusÂ
Spotty Herbert Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, MattSantos said: It's off topic, but give it 2 years and i'd be replacing Tedesco with Suaalii. Is To'o definitely playing for Samoa? That'd be nice, as he'd be first winger on the Aussie team sheet. Yes, To'o declared for Samoa some weeks ago, along with Luai.
DavidM Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 I think Tualagi has a big chance to get selected for Australia
DavidM Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 Tedesco Sua’ali’i , The Foxx , Tualagi Holmes , Latrell Munster , DCE , Cleary Burton / Wighton I’m not sure of Hynes role given the players who can play 1 and 6 .  I’d pick another specialist centre like Campbell GrahamÂ
DavidM Posted September 15, 2022 Author Posted September 15, 2022 Was reading this article and the Kangaroos are very good as ever but not as imposing as previous incarnations https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/09/14/kangaroos-world-cup-likely-squad-new-era-with-many-spots-up-for-grabs-in-trophy-defence/
Mojo Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: To'o hasn't exactly set the comp on fire this time round like he did last season although he may just be coming back to full fitness and form right now I watched that Panthers game all season. And it looked like during the regular season they used the left side heavily with tago and may attacking every time but in the playoffs its the right side most of time. It's obviously working by how dominant the panthers are all season
EastLondonMike Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 Does Taulagi qualify for Aus? Born in Auckland of Samoan decent and moved to Aus when he was 12.. Can’t honestly remember the rules around such eligibility. Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk
StandOffHalf Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: yes - I just meant suaalii is a long way off in my opinion from that standard at this point- when tedesco went off and manu was not there either it cost the roosters their season last weekend - JS was no substitute for either of them - maybe in 3 years time but not now Fair point on Suaalii in terms of the Souths game. Bear in mind that it was a 19-year-old replacing the Aussie FB. He didn't execute passes or show outstanding command, but I'd cut him slack. Big ask to put him there mid-game and expect a seamless performance. I wouldn't judge his season as a winger based upon his game as a FB in those extraordinary circumstances last weekend where two of the back three were gone. I think he's a certainty for the 24. I would have had Cobbo as well, mind you!
Barley Mow Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said: Does Taulagi qualify for Aus? Born in Auckland of Samoan decent and moved to Aus when he was 12.. Can’t honestly remember the rules around such eligibility. I think qualification based on residency is 5 years isn't it? So if the Samoan decent is via a parent/grand parent, he qualifies for all three.
Mojo Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, EastLondonMike said: Does Taulagi qualify for Aus? Born in Auckland of Samoan decent and moved to Aus when he was 12.. Can’t honestly remember the rules around such eligibility. He played origin so he can't play for the Kiwis only for aussie or samoa
Mojo Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, StandOffHalf said: Fair point on Suaalii in terms of the Souths game. Bear in mind that it was a 19-year-old replacing the Aussie FB. He didn't execute passes or show outstanding command, but I'd cut him slack. Big ask to put him there mid-game and expect a seamless performance. I wouldn't judge his season as a winger based upon his game as a FB in those extraordinary circumstances last weekend where two of the back three were gone. I think he's a certainty for the 24. I would have had Cobbo as well, mind you! I agree on Suali'i I see some fans going off at him after his performance but the kids only 19. He probably hasn't trained all year at fullback. He'll definitely learn from this experienceÂ
StandOffHalf Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, Mojo said: He played origin so he can't play for the Kiwis only for aussie or samoa He can still play for NZ. Internal Origin rules have no bearing on eligibility for internationals. NZ can pick him. As things stand, he couldn't then play Origin.
StandOffHalf Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, Mojo said: I agree on Suali'i I see some fans going off at him after his performance but the kids only 19. He probably hasn't trained all year at fullback. He'll definitely learn from this experience It does suggest that wing - or strike centre - might be his long-term positions. I don't like the idea of going off on a young player thrust unexpectedly into a new role in the middle of a frantic game. His pass selection and presence will get better as he matures. Based upon his 2022, I wouldn't have too many qualms about giving him a starting wing berth.
UTK Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Dunbar said: I suspect this is just one of those 'see what the squad could be' lists circling around rather than anything official. https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/09/16/david-fifita-named-in-powerful-tonga-squad-ahead-of-world-cup/ Confirmed in this release today that the 38-man squad is official, Staggs just must not have officially ruled himself out yet. Also confirms it is the Titans David Fifita.
Mojo Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, StandOffHalf said: He can still play for NZ. Internal Origin rules have no bearing on eligibility for internationals. NZ can pick him. As things stand, he couldn't then play Origin. No he can't. I'm pretty sure it's in the players contract for Origin they can't commit to another tier 1 nation. I mean look at Ponga he would've played for the Kiwis if he could
StandOffHalf Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mojo said: No he can't. I'm pretty sure it's in the players contract for Origin they can't commit to another tier 1 nation. I mean look at Ponga he would've played for the Kiwis if he could That may be true, but those Origin contracts would be trumped by international eligibility. Ponga hasn't played for the Kiwis because he still wants to play Origin.Â
StandOffHalf Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 Origin has NO jurisdiction to stop players playing internationally.
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