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Wasn’t there a lot of criteria set 20 odd years ago when sky bought the game. You know. The ones that weren’t adhered to cos their face fitted or didn’t. Just saying like. Enjoy your friendlies

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2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

The screenshot of the presentation that was shared earlier in the thread said this.

2026 season:  12 clubs in top tier - Category A clubs plus highest ranked category B clubs.  Mix of Category B clubs changed to reflect new rankings.

This implies that the mix up of Cat B's in the top tier each year may be more drastic than the bottom Cat B in tier 1 being replaced by the top Cat B in tier 2.

Maybe but I doubt it. If a club are strong off field but have a bad season on field there's no way they would replace. It would take a few bad seasons for me.

Hull KR prime example, finished bottom but seem to have it together off field. Year after 80 mins from OT and lots of youngsters playing first grade

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3 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Dave Woods on the BBC saying the ‘Super League’ branding likely to be scrapped.

With the presentations and communications all talking about the 'top tier' and this from Woods, could we actually see the name of Super League for the top tier be dropped completely I wonder.

Super League is all over the place now in Netball, Women's Football etc. maybe they think we need something more unique.

That would be a huge rebrand if true.

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Just now, Stuff Smith said:

A future London club may well be Category A. The current London Broncos club definitely are not. 

I think they want a London club by 2026ish. That might not be the Broncos, at least not in the current guise. 

I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks.

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I’ve not read the proposal but have they mentioned what they intend to put in place for the mens amateur game . As I’ve said before the shrinkage in the player pool has been huge over the last 15-20 years . Unless this is stemmed we will not be producing players to play for the A,B and C clubs 

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2 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

I think they want a London club by 2026ish. That might not be the Broncos, at least not in the current guise. 

And that begs the question if not the broncos (or skolars) how a brand new club could attain a Grade A status?

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49 minutes ago, yipyee said:

I read this to be

Some clubs will be exempt from relegation if finish bottom

Lowest B grade will be relegated and swopped with highest B grade of championship 'upon review'  so if Catalan are bottom they survive, if wakey are second bottom they could swop with say Leigh.

This will go on until there are 12 grade A but maybe then expand to 14 with some grade Bs

Also in the detail France and London appear to be getting special protection as 'target expansions' so London and both French clubs could be shoe horned in.

Would explain why Toulouse are happy to go again in champ and why London are settling in Wimbledon.

So looks like category A

Saints

Wigan

Warrington

Leeds

Huddersfield 

Hull 

Hull KR

Catalan

Toulouse

London 

Plus 2 grade B clubs

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

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1 minute ago, David Shepherd said:

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

Huddersfield also look naff on TV, 5000 at Wimbledon looks alright and Sky pay for the game. I think IMG will give sky some confidence they are getting serious. 

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1 minute ago, David Shepherd said:

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

Interesting view. 

I would start out low and increase criteria, this is a good point, but I am sure if there are things that prevent a cat A said clubs would sort this out in lease renewals.

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Dave Woods is on BBC Radio Five Live tonight at 9.30.  IMG is one of the issues he covers.

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11 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

Primacy of tenure should certainly be included in the criteria.

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35 minutes ago, Spidey said:

And that begs the question if not the broncos (or skolars) how a brand new club could attain a Grade A status?

By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there?

Too obvious?

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16 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there?

Too obvious?

Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it?

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it?

As far as I understand, nothing at all is finished in any year. If you win the Euromillions in 2027 and decide that what RL needs is a Hastings-based franchise playing out of the Pilot Field then the door remains open. Get an A licence from that starting point and Hastings Hornblowers will be playing in the renamed top tier, get a B or a C and it'll be a case of working upwards.

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https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/

 

"his could see an end to the name Super League which has been going strong for 27 years since 1996 and the arrival of summer rugby league."

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6 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/

 

"his could see an end to the name Super League which has been going strong for 27 years since 1996 and the arrival of summer rugby league."

Could, could not, might, might not. Pure idle speculation, I think.

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1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

With the presentations and communications all talking about the 'top tier' and this from Woods, could we actually see the name of Super League for the top tier be dropped completely I wonder.

Super League is all over the place now in Netball, Women's Football etc. maybe they think we need something more unique.

That would be a huge rebrand if true.

Yes, I agree.

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3 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

I agree with a name change. As with other things to do with the sport **** poor branding has seen it become lost in a see of other Super Leagues. I've never been that enamoured with the word super as part of the name either, it's all a bit weak and lame for me. Rugby League needs to be part of any title, such as the Rugby League Premiership etc.

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