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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

There don't seem to have been any leaks with what the proposals are which I would have expected. I'm guessing the clubs are in the dark until Wednesday and IMG/RFL have a degree of certainty the measures will be backed by clubs otherwise the media event that follows in the afternoon might be a bit of a farce. 

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21 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

There don't seem to have been any leaks with what the proposals are which I would have expected. I'm guessing the clubs are in the dark until Wednesday and IMG/RFL have a degree of certainty the measures will be backed by clubs otherwise the media event that follows in the afternoon might be a bit of a farce. 

Probably no leaks as the clubs don’t know yet

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35 minutes ago, LeeF said:

Probably no leaks as the clubs don’t know yet

These proposals are (meant to be) a big deal.

I'm uneasy about having a vote on Wednesday if they really haven't got the proposals yet.

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I don't like these proposals at all.

I don't know what they are, I just don't like them.

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10 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

This is effectively dictatorship, benign yes, but dictatorship nonetheless. 

There´s a few things I want to see, 14 team SL and level central funding in the champ. Whatever the money is, split equally to get rid of the matthews effect. If we get that, I´ll be delighted. Can´t be franchising because I just dont think enough clubs vote for it. 

Edit: Oh and a salary cap in the champ of 1 million max and the same rules for foreign players as SL to stop teams like Leigh and Toulouse buying the league in the future. 

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9 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

There´s a few things I want to see, 14 team SL and level central funding in the champ. Whatever the money is, split equally to get rid of the matthews effect. If we get that, I´ll be delighted. Can´t be franchising because I just dont think enough clubs vote for it. 

My concerns won't be the proposals but the fact that the clubs get to vote on them 

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7 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

My concerns won't be the proposals but the fact that the clubs get to vote on them 

Actually makes me confident of 14 team League, they need to keep enough clubs on board so cant see franchising coming in. 

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Is there any word on the results of the fan survey being released? I'm really interested on what other fans think and if they tally with my view and also some of the commonly held views on here. It would also be good to know if it was a genuine consultation with fans and contributed to the proposals rather than fans being ignored and doing what they wanted anyway.

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4 minutes ago, Ragingbull said:

Given we wil probably be in a relagation fight next year (thats presuming we are even  capable of putting up a fight) im more concerned about what the plans are for the future of League One more than anything else.

Well depending who goes up we could get squeezed, Keighley will finish above us and go for playoffs. The weak teams (Workington, Dewsbury, homeless teams like Oldham and Rochdale) have all been shuffled out of the league. If Doncaster go up they were getting 1000 already and a South Yorkshire derby to promote. 

I think it will be the promoted team and one of Newcastle, London, Bulls or Haven. 

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7 minutes ago, phiggins said:

So, are clubs being asked to read proposals and vote for them immediately? What could possibly go wrong?

thats an assumption, maybe the assumption should be...

Clubs to vote to agree/disagree to consider the proposals and then put to vote at a later date..

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

These proposals are (meant to be) a big deal.

I'm uneasy about having a vote on Wednesday if they really haven't got the proposals yet.

So am I. Either the changes are not that revolutionary or IMG don’t know their audience. 

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2 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

This is effectively dictatorship, benign yes, but dictatorship nonetheless. 

It has been for a while in reality. Can anyone seriously believe if anything is proposed that dosn't give the top few even more more money, worse still freeze what they have or reduce it to spread the wealth a bit wider, it will be accepted. 

 

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I assume there are a number of points to be presented so it may not be a single vote.

Possibly also not final ones, there could be initial proposals to be taken forward into an open public consultation phase.

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2 hours ago, Ragingbull said:

Given we wil probably be in a relagation fight next year (thats presuming we are even  capable of putting up a fight) im more concerned about what the plans are for the future of League One more than anything else.

Agree with this from a Thunder perspective as well.

What happens to those outside the 20 is there a way in?

If club's haven't seen proposals and they're voting on the day a lack of fan engagement on final proposals concerns me.

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6 minutes ago, Phil W said:

Agree with this from a Thunder perspective as well.

What happens to those outside the 20 is there a way in?

If club's haven't seen proposals and they're voting on the day a lack of fan engagement on final proposals concerns me.

If there is to be only 20 in the club, there's got to be a mechanism to get in in the future. How else will new or resurgent teams progress?

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48 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

If there is to be only 20 in the club, there's got to be a mechanism to get in in the future. How else will new or resurgent teams progress?

If it isnt a franchise system it makes no odds as RFL League 1 is basically unfunded now. Provided you can still apply and get into RFL Champ will make no odds. 

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3 hours ago, Damien said:

Is there any word on the results of the fan survey being released? I'm really interested on what other fans think and if they tally with my view and also some of the commonly held views on here. It would also be good to know if it was a genuine consultation with fans and contributed to the proposals rather than fans being ignored and doing what they wanted anyway.

Would you really want folk who watch RL getting the final say? We would bring back community singing, the four tackle set and hanging.

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6 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

Would you really want folk who watch RL getting the final say? We would bring back community singing, the four tackle set and hanging.

YES - I would bring back the old rugby league, contested scrums and being able to give and take a bit of biff, back when all the teams competed on their own merit - unlike now when the chosen 12 get almost 2million more than the others some of whom get slightly better than nothing.

And yes, bring back hanging, mass murders and terrorists etc should not be sitting in prison watching sky when some of us out here doing no harm can't afford it!

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