The Future is League Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 What i have seen i see no proposals for all Super League clubs to have academies. IF some clubs don't want an academy they shouldn't have a place in Super League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovenden Grunt Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, gingerjon said: Why would the RFL not want clubs to improve? You tell me, they don't allow certain clubs to have academies or reserve teams do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, yipyee said: I read this to be Some clubs will be exempt from relegation if finish bottom Lowest B grade will be relegated and swopped with highest B grade of championship 'upon review' so if Catalan are bottom they survive, if wakey are second bottom they could swop with say Leigh. This will go on until there are 12 grade A but maybe then expand to 14 with some grade Bs Also in the detail France and London appear to be getting special protection as 'target expansions' so London and both French clubs could be shoe horned in. Would explain why Toulouse are happy to go again in champ and why London are settling in Wimbledon. So looks like category A Saints Wigan Warrington Leeds Huddersfield Hull Hull KR Catalan Toulouse London Plus 2 grade B clubs Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion. Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yipyee Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, David Shepherd said: Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion. Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income. Interesting view. I would start out low and increase criteria, this is a good point, but I am sure if there are things that prevent a cat A said clubs would sort this out in lease renewals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Dave Woods is on BBC Radio Five Live tonight at 9.30. IMG is one of the issues he covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, David Shepherd said: Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion. Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income. Primacy of tenure should certainly be included in the criteria. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, Spidey said: And that begs the question if not the broncos (or skolars) how a brand new club could attain a Grade A status? By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there? Too obvious? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, gingerjon said: By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there? Too obvious? Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it? As far as I understand, nothing at all is finished in any year. If you win the Euromillions in 2027 and decide that what RL needs is a Hastings-based franchise playing out of the Pilot Field then the door remains open. Get an A licence from that starting point and Hastings Hornblowers will be playing in the renamed top tier, get a B or a C and it'll be a case of working upwards. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/ "his could see an end to the name Super League which has been going strong for 27 years since 1996 and the arrival of summer rugby league." Edited September 28, 2022 by Henson Park Old Firm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahars Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Apologies if it’s been covered elsewhere but is an A grade permanent? Presumably a lot of A clubs will still rely somewhat on a benevolent owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/what-imgs-proposal-means-for-catalans-dragons-toulouse-olympique-and-clubs-outside-uk-59741/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/ "his could see an end to the name Super League which has been going strong for 27 years since 1996 and the arrival of summer rugby league." Could, could not, might, might not. Pure idle speculation, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunbar said: With the presentations and communications all talking about the 'top tier' and this from Woods, could we actually see the name of Super League for the top tier be dropped completely I wonder. Super League is all over the place now in Netball, Women's Football etc. maybe they think we need something more unique. That would be a huge rebrand if true. Yes, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/ I agree with a name change. As with other things to do with the sport **** poor branding has seen it become lost in a see of other Super Leagues. I've never been that enamoured with the word super as part of the name either, it's all a bit weak and lame for me. Rugby League needs to be part of any title, such as the Rugby League Premiership etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Damien said: I agree with a name change. As with other things to do with the sport **** poor branding has seen it become lost in a see of other Super Leagues. I've never been that enamoured with the word super as part of the name either, it's all a bit weak and lame for me. Rugby League needs to be part of any title, such as the Rugby League Premiership etc. I've always liked Rugby Premier League (RPL) But one thing that I believe that we should all start doing, from players, fans, media etc we should start using the word Rugby League or just the word "league" for short to distinguish ourselves away from Rugby Union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Henson Park Old Firm said: I've always liked Rugby Premier League (RPL) But one thing that I believe that we should all start doing, from players, fans, media etc we should start using the word Rugby League or just the word "league" for short to distinguish ourselves away from Rugby Union. Hate it, sounds like a RU league. Like it or not we have lost ownership of the word Rugby in isolation. It's not really a debate for this thread though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzer90 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DEANO said: Wasn’t there a lot of criteria set 20 odd years ago when sky bought the game. You know. The ones that weren’t adhered to cos their face fitted or didn’t. Just saying like. Enjoy your friendlies It’s not as bad as this thankfully but still not great… https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby-league-outdated-game-set-for-radical-changes-1379774.html?amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agbrigg Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: As I say mate you're looking for the who, what, why, where, when answers and I completely respect that to you this offers little without that level of detail attached to this announcement. I and others are just looking at this for an outline of what the previously even more vague 'changes' might eventually look like. I, like you am very much looking forward to seeing this all in detailed documentation that can be properly scrutinised in the near future. Yes, and thats when the real fun begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 hours ago, gingerjon said: They don't expect to get a full division of category A sides from the off. Literally one of the first things they said. How do they know , have they already assessed everybody ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayCee Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 You may say I'm not a real RL supporter after this but I'm feeling positive about much of what has been proposed. https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2022/09/img-proposals.html My blog: https://rugbyl.blogspot.co.nz/ It takes wisdom to know when a discussion has run its course. It takes reasonableness to end that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I'd like to know why they think this will bring in more money ? , And how much they expect to make out of it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuff Smith Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Buzzer90 said: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby-league-outdated-game-set-for-radical-changes-1379774.html?amp Title: "Rugby League: Outdated game set for radical changes" Nice (typical) sub-editing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clogdance Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 What do they think IMG's proposals will do for the game that licensing didn't ? Answers on a postcard to..... Maybe they should be asked to help County Championship cricket as well, good luck with that. Like RL over here, it is what it is, and nothing will ever change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Just Browny said: I don't think it is harsh at all, they have played by the rules and had an owner who has put up the money. But it has underlined to the others that just having an honest set of hard working lads won't be enough, they either have to find their own benefactor or they are stuck where they are. Like Moran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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