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David Shepherd

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49 minutes ago, yipyee said:

I read this to be

Some clubs will be exempt from relegation if finish bottom

Lowest B grade will be relegated and swopped with highest B grade of championship 'upon review'  so if Catalan are bottom they survive, if wakey are second bottom they could swop with say Leigh.

This will go on until there are 12 grade A but maybe then expand to 14 with some grade Bs

Also in the detail France and London appear to be getting special protection as 'target expansions' so London and both French clubs could be shoe horned in.

Would explain why Toulouse are happy to go again in champ and why London are settling in Wimbledon.

So looks like category A

Saints

Wigan

Warrington

Leeds

Huddersfield 

Hull 

Hull KR

Catalan

Toulouse

London 

Plus 2 grade B clubs

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

yipyee

yipyee

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1 minute ago, David Shepherd said:

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

Interesting view. 

I would start out low and increase criteria, this is a good point, but I am sure if there are things that prevent a cat A said clubs would sort this out in lease renewals.

JohnM

JohnM

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Dave Woods is on BBC Radio Five Live tonight at 9.30.  IMG is one of the issues he covers.

The "Dark Ages" is a term referring to life at the RFL under the new regime. It's characterized by a decline in openness, professionalism, transparency and  achievements, 
 
gingerjon

gingerjon

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11 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

Hudds, Wigan, Hull, London and TOXIII aren't owners or primary tenants. That should preclude them from having an A in my opinion.  Can't have top flight clubs being subservient to another sport's fixture scheduling and not generating maximum matchday and non-rugby income.

Primacy of tenure should certainly be included in the criteria.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

gingerjon

gingerjon

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35 minutes ago, Spidey said:

And that begs the question if not the broncos (or skolars) how a brand new club could attain a Grade A status?

By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there?

Too obvious?

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

Spidey

Spidey

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16 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

By meeting the minimum standards for entry into the system and building from there?

Too obvious?

Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it?

gingerjon

gingerjon

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2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Think that’s fine over time. There was a point about getting this done by 2026, bit soon isn’t it?

As far as I understand, nothing at all is finished in any year. If you win the Euromillions in 2027 and decide that what RL needs is a Hastings-based franchise playing out of the Pilot Field then the door remains open. Get an A licence from that starting point and Hastings Hornblowers will be playing in the renamed top tier, get a B or a C and it'll be a case of working upwards.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

pahars

pahars

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Apologies if it’s been covered elsewhere but is an A grade permanent? Presumably a lot of A clubs will still rely somewhat on a benevolent owner. 

JohnM

JohnM

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6 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/

 

"his could see an end to the name Super League which has been going strong for 27 years since 1996 and the arrival of summer rugby league."

Could, could not, might, might not. Pure idle speculation, I think.

The "Dark Ages" is a term referring to life at the RFL under the new regime. It's characterized by a decline in openness, professionalism, transparency and  achievements, 
 
Gerrumonside ref

Gerrumonside ref

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1 hour ago, Dunbar said:

With the presentations and communications all talking about the 'top tier' and this from Woods, could we actually see the name of Super League for the top tier be dropped completely I wonder.

Super League is all over the place now in Netball, Women's Football etc. maybe they think we need something more unique.

That would be a huge rebrand if true.

Yes, I agree.

Damien

Damien

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3 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/could-imgs-recommendations-lead-to-super-league-changing-name-59744/

I agree with a name change. As with other things to do with the sport **** poor branding has seen it become lost in a see of other Super Leagues. I've never been that enamoured with the word super as part of the name either, it's all a bit weak and lame for me. Rugby League needs to be part of any title, such as the Rugby League Premiership etc.

Henson Park Old Firm

Henson Park Old Firm

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3 minutes ago, Damien said:

I agree with a name change. As with other things to do with the sport **** poor branding has seen it become lost in a see of other Super Leagues. I've never been that enamoured with the word super as part of the name either, it's all a bit weak and lame for me. Rugby League needs to be part of any title, such as the Rugby League Premiership etc.

I've always liked Rugby Premier League (RPL) 

But one thing that I believe that we should all start doing, from players, fans, media etc we should start using the word Rugby League or just the word "league" for short to distinguish ourselves away from Rugby Union.

Damien

Damien

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1 minute ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

I've always liked Rugby Premier League (RPL) 

But one thing that I believe that we should all start doing, from players, fans, media etc we should start using the word Rugby League or just the word "league" for short to distinguish ourselves away from Rugby Union.

Hate it, sounds like a RU league. Like it or not we have lost ownership of the word Rugby in isolation. It's not really a debate for this thread though.

Agbrigg

Agbrigg

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5 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

As I say mate you're looking for the who, what, why, where, when answers and I completely respect that to you this offers little without that level of detail attached to this announcement. I and others are just looking at this for an outline of what the previously even more vague 'changes' might eventually look like. I, like you am very much looking forward to seeing this all in detailed documentation that can be properly scrutinised in the near future. 

Yes, and thats when the real fun begins 😃

GUBRATS

GUBRATS

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3 hours ago, gingerjon said:

They don't expect to get a full division of category A sides from the off. Literally one of the first things they said.

How do they know , have they already assessed everybody ?

clogdance

clogdance

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What do they think IMG's proposals will do for the game that licensing didn't ? Answers on a postcard to..... Maybe they should be asked to help County Championship cricket as well, good luck with that. Like RL over here, it is what it is, and nothing will ever change.

Harry Stottle

Harry Stottle

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2 hours ago, Just Browny said:

I don't think it is harsh at all, they have played by the rules and had an owner who has put up the money. But it has underlined to the others that just having an honest set of hard working lads won't be enough, they either have to find their own benefactor or they are stuck where they are. 

Like Moran?

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