Papua New Guinea NRL side...

[DoubleD]

I hope they tight controls on that money flow, and it doesn't get funnelled into other 'projects'. 

[Anita Bath]

5 hours ago, DoubleD said:

I hope they tight controls on that money flow, and it doesn't get funnelled into other 'projects'. 

What like…signing Josh Addo Carr?

[Copa]

8 hours ago, DoubleD said:

I hope they tight controls on that money flow, and it doesn't get funnelled into other 'projects'. 

An NRL team not receiving its correct funding would be a good first sign things are going wrong. It’d bring massive shame, embarrassment and humiliation to PNG. 

Edited September 19 by Copa

[eal]

Building a mini-city? That sounds like a Covid bubble and those were really popular with the players. If the Dolphins struggle to get anyone to go to Brisbane and the Titans struggle getting guys to live on the Gold Coast, how in the heck is a compound in Port Moresby going to attract guys? And don't say more money, the NRL is full of guys earning less money to play for more desirable clubs, that is why the same three teams have dominated the last 10 years.

[Anita Bath]

Dolphins and Titans dont struggle to sign guys, their problem is signing the right guys.

A compound ( mini city to Vlandys) is a different matter altogether.

[eal]

1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

Dolphins and Titans dont struggle to sign guys, their problem is signing the right guys.

A compound ( mini city to Vlandys) is a different matter altogether.

The Dolphins aggressively pursued many big name playmakers coming off contract and missed on all of them.

[Damien]

2 hours ago, eal said:

The Dolphins aggressively pursued many big name playmakers coming off contract and missed on all of them.

Clubs miss out on players all the time, the competition for playmakers is fierce. Who in particular are you referring to?

[Damien]

3 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

Dolphins and Titans dont struggle to sign guys, their problem is signing the right guys.

A compound ( mini city to Vlandys) is a different matter altogether.

I agree.

The Doplhins are too new to judge on this front. I'm sure it's not a struggle to get people to move to Brisbane though.

The Titans are 17 years old and have signed many players over the years. For example signing David Fifita from Brisbane was seen as a huge coup at the time. I have always had the impression their issues over the years lie with the running of the club, the organisation and the culture there. This has been seen at various NRL clubs over the years.

[DoubleD]

8 hours ago, Copa said:

An NRL team not receiving its correct funding would be a good first sign things are going wrong. It’d bring massive shame, embarrassment and humiliation to PNG. 

It’s not the NRL team I was alluding to as such, more the compound. It’s a lot of money going to an impoverished country and that often brings unscrupulous people out the woodwork with ulterior motives. There are a number of red flags with this project and it will require strict oversight and governance to ensure it doesn’t go awry 

[eal]

22 hours ago, Damien said:

Clubs miss out on players all the time, the competition for playmakers is fierce. Who in particular are you referring to?

Players who rejected the Dolphins:

Harry Grant, Brandon Smith, Jahrome Hughes, Cameron Munster, Kalyn Ponga, Reece Walsh, Pat Carrigan, Reed Mahoney, Isaiah Papali'i, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Tino Fa'asuamaleaui, Jeremiah Nanai, Dylan Edwards, Ben Hunt, Cody Walker.

For a team to be competitive they need to be able to attract players like those above, particularly a marquee half or full back. Do you see Reece Walsh or Cameron Munster going to live in a compound in Port Moresby?

[Damien]

4 hours ago, eal said:

Players who rejected the Dolphins:

Harry Grant, Brandon Smith, Jahrome Hughes, Cameron Munster, Kalyn Ponga, Reece Walsh, Pat Carrigan, Reed Mahoney, Isaiah Papali'i, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Tino Fa'asuamaleaui, Jeremiah Nanai, Dylan Edwards, Ben Hunt, Cody Walker.

For a team to be competitive they need to be able to attract players like those above, particularly a marquee half or full back. Do you see Reece Walsh or Cameron Munster going to live in a compound in Port Moresby?

That's just a completely random list of players, not even just playmakers. I don't believe that were aggressively chasing all those as you put it either.

[eal]

5 hours ago, Damien said:

That's just a completely random list of players, not even just playmakers. I don't believe that were aggressively chasing all those as you put it either.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-dolphins-list-of-players-who-rejected-dolphins-marquee-man-2023-wayne-bennett-cameron-munster-brandon-smith-kalyn-ponga-reece-walsh/news-story/7b7a85e4d1874f41e02a754d2e457364

[Click]

1 hour ago, eal said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-dolphins-list-of-players-who-rejected-dolphins-marquee-man-2023-wayne-bennett-cameron-munster-brandon-smith-kalyn-ponga-reece-walsh/news-story/7b7a85e4d1874f41e02a754d2e457364

Herbie didn't reject 'em, so I guess they have some signing power.

[DlEHARD]

They got the Hammer!!! 

[Anita Bath]

In a wide ranging interview on the monday night footy show on channel 9 Vlandys and Adbo made two things very clear about the PNG expansion strategy

1. It is based around the players having tax free status in order to allow them to earn mega millions over the period of a contract and essentially set them up for life.

2. The underlying economics is based on large numbers of the 18 million population buying TV subscriptions meaning that the future TV contracts will be much bigger.

 

Although the western bears bid was discussed there was no discussion re NZ expansion. Viewers simply told there are nine bids.

[DoubleD]

11 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

In a wide ranging interview on the monday night footy show on channel 9 Vlandys and Adbo made two things very clear about the PNG expansion strategy

1. It is based around the players having tax free status in order to allow them to earn mega millions over the period of a contract and essentially set them up for life.

2. The underlying economics is based on large numbers of the 18 million population buying TV subscriptions meaning that the future TV contracts will be much bigger.

 

Although the western bears bid was discussed there was no discussion re NZ expansion. Viewers simply told there are nine bids.

How many of the 18 million would be able to afford a tv subscription?

[JonM]

11 minutes ago, DoubleD said:

How many of the 18 million would be able to afford a tv subscription?

There's around 4 million people with a smartphone in PNG from a population that officially is approaching 12 million (both figures growing rapidly and some authorities believe the population is actually more like 17 million.) Digicel  already delivers a lot of paid content via phones rather than satellite tv. The question is perhaps more how much would those people be able to pay for a tv subscription? 

[Copa]

4 hours ago, JonM said:

There's around 4 million people with a smartphone in PNG from a population that officially is approaching 12 million (both figures growing rapidly and some authorities believe the population is actually more like 17 million.) Digicel  already delivers a lot of paid content via phones rather than satellite tv. The question is perhaps more how much would those people be able to pay for a tv subscription? 

The NRL will also be in a dominant consolidated position as PNG slowly develops and incomes increase over the long term.

[gingerjon]

23 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

2. The underlying economics is based on large numbers of the 18 million population buying TV subscriptions meaning that the future TV contracts will be much bigger.

That does sound like nonsense TBH but I guess he can't say that "we'll have a PNG side for as long as the government pays for us to have a PNG side" and has to make it sound like there's any kind of long term sustainability in it without that funding.

[Damien]

Pretty massive result when you talk about player pools and pathways. Just think with a NRL club at the pinnacle for this to filter into:

 

[Adelaide Tiger]

Just listened to an item on the ABC National Radio sports bulletin.

Apparently, PNG will only be allowed to compete in the NRL if PNG does not sign a Security Pact with China that would allow China to place Police and Military personnel on PNG.

[Anita Bath]

52 minutes ago, Adelaide Tiger said:

Just listened to an item on the ABC National Radio sports bulletin.

Apparently, PNG will only be allowed to compete in the NRL if PNG does not sign a Security Pact with China that would allow China to place Police and Military personnel on PNG.

And if they jump in bed with China after a team is admitted…….

How come the money allocated to Melbourne Storm wasnt contingent on Chairman Dan signing deals with the Chinese?

This PNG thing just gets murkier by the day.

PNG just sacked their ‘Soccer’ manager, ex Brisbane Roar coach warren moon, because he refused to move home to PNG even though players dont have to live there.

I suppose he wasnt offered one of those compound spots.

[AB90]

On 24/09/2024 at 22:04, Copa said:

The NRL will also be in a dominant consolidated position as PNG slowly develops and incomes increase over the long term.

Yeah, the real play is the long term, future upside. 

PNG as a country will look very different in 10, 25, 50 years time as it becomes a more westernised and developed nation.