1895 Cup Connotations for Quarter Finals

[Tommygilf]

Are the Quarter finals an open draw?

[marklaspalmas]

4 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Are the Quarter finals an open draw?

Aye

[Mumby Magic]

Anyone any idea when the draw is.

[DEANO]

3 hours ago, Mumby Magic said:

Anyone any idea when the draw is.

Don’t know but will probably draw the semi final and final at the same time

[marklaspalmas]

3 hours ago, Mumby Magic said:

Anyone any idea when the draw is.

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/1895-cup-quarter-final-draw-details-confirmed-ahead-of-next-weekends-final-group-stage-games

 

[sam4731]

I wouldn't automatically assume that Wakefield are going to win this or even make the final. Championship front runners have seldom won this competition. I suppose the difference this year is that promotion isn't a factor so they may as well put all their eggs in this basket.

[Michael Bates]

On 10/02/2024 at 22:30, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

Odds for the 1895(AKA the Joseph Platt trophy)

Wakefield Trinity	1/4
Oldham RLFC	8/1
Bradford Bulls	12/1
Sheffield Eagles	16/1
Batley Bulldogs	20/1
Barrow Raiders	33/1
Swinton Lions	33/1
York City Knights	50/1

Bookies obviously not realising that Oldham have a large contingent of former Featherstone players that notoriously can't win a game when it really counts.

[Michael Bates]

On 10/02/2024 at 22:30, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

 

Double post.

Edited February 11 by Michael Bates
Double post.

[The Phantom Horseman]

15 hours ago, sam4731 said:

I wouldn't automatically assume that Wakefield are going to win this or even make the final. Championship front runners have seldom won this competition.

It's only been run four times, and on two of those occasions the highest-finishing team has won it.

[sam4731]

29 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

It's only been run four times, and on two of those occasions the highest-finishing team has won it.

Only once, Leigh in 2022. But I'm also talking about the teams that have reached the final. It's often been teams from outside the top two.

[The Phantom Horseman]

1 minute ago, sam4731 said:

Only once, Leigh in 2022. But I'm also talking about the teams that have reached the final. It's often been teams from outside the top two.

Fev, in 2021 (Toulouse have never entered the comp). But in any case 4 is far too small a sample size to draw any conclusions from, especially when the format has changed again this year.

[Blind side johnny]

18 hours ago, sam4731 said:

I wouldn't automatically assume that Wakefield are going to win this or even make the final. Championship front runners have seldom won this competition. I suppose the difference this year is that promotion isn't a factor so they may as well put all their eggs in this basket.

Doesn't success also enhance the IMG ratings?

[sam4731]

30 minutes ago, Blind side johnny said:

Doesn't success also enhance the IMG ratings?

To gain anything from it you need to win it (nothing for second), and you only get 0.1

Not that it's a consideration for Wakefield but finishing 1 place higher in the league gets you more than that.

Also, IMG grading criteria certainly won't be a factor for Wakefield. I'm sure they will be well in the top 12.

[Mumby Magic]

Todays the day then.

[PREPOSTEROUS]

Poor Newcastle. Must be demoralising. 

 

 

[Barley Mow]

For anyone interested, the Quarter (& Semi) Final draw is due to take place live on BBC Radio Cumbria some time after the Workington v Whitehaven game finishes (approx 15 mins from now) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/rugby-league/68296144

Sheffield, Swinton, Barrow, Wakefield, Bradford, Oldham, Batley and York in the draw

Edited February 18 by Barley Mow

[Barley Mow]

Quarters Draw (3rd March):

1. Sheffield v Batley

2. Bradford v Swinton

3. York v Oldham

4. Wakefield v Barrow

 

Semis Draw (12th May):

Winner 2 v Winner 4

Winner 3 v Winner 1

Edited February 18 by Barley Mow

[bigred]

Oldham v Wakefield final then! 

 

[The Blues Ox]

That 50/1 on York is not looking bad now, they certainly have a reasonable chance of making the final with that draw. Have to feel for Bradford, the one year they don't have to face losing to Fax in a cup and they run in to Wakey. 

[bigred]

22 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

That 50/1 on York is not looking bad now, they certainly have a reasonable chance of making the final with that draw. Have to feel for Bradford, the one year they don't have to face losing to Fax in a cup and they run in to Wakey. 

Do you think York will beat that oldham side? 

[Agbrigg]

25 minutes ago, bigred said:

Do you think York will beat that oldham side? 

Having attended the York  Wakey match the other week I would say they could. Wakey won easy enough, but York were no mugs. Also let's not forget they were without Myler and Dagger that day. They also have home advantage, so it will be a close game

[bigred]

It's a tough game for Oldham. Still fancy them to be in a final against Wakefield though. 

 

[The Blues Ox]

2 hours ago, bigred said:

Do you think York will beat that oldham side? 

I think so yeah. Fax probably should have beaten them and I think York playing at home should have too much for them. Oldham are a good side without a doubt and will run away with League 1 but in my opinion they wouldnt be in the mix for the playoffs in the Championship as things stand.

[bigred]

6 hours ago, The Blues Ox said:

I think so yeah. Fax probably should have beaten them and I think York playing at home should have too much for them. Oldham are a good side without a doubt and will run away with League 1 but in my opinion they wouldnt be in the mix for the playoffs in the Championship as things stand.

Oldham will recruit the players they need to win the championship next season. 

 

 

[The Blues Ox]

7 hours ago, bigred said:

Oldham will recruit the players they need to win the championship next season. 

They will certainly try but for the moment, making them 2nd favorites for this cup ahead of teams that will likely finish in the top 6 in the Championship was the height of overreaction that you would expect from people who have not seen their games. Personally I would put them around 5th out of the 7 other remaining teams but avoiding Wakey has given them a chance at Wembley so you never know and if they get there they will have to do it by beating some top end Championship teams.