Question for the good people of Workington

[John bird]

Currently in the area visiting family and was wondering how many amateur/community RL clubs there are in the town as to the best of my knowledge there doesn’t seem to be any which I find truly amazing if true.

[dkw]

Seaton is a workington village, they are now the only team left unfortunately. Youth team Derwent Park rangers have started back up. 

Up the coast there's Flimby, then the Maryport teams.

[John bird]

8 minutes ago, dkw said:

Seaton is a workington village, they are now the only team left unfortunately. Youth team Derwent Park rangers have started back up. 

Up the coast there's Flimby, then the Maryport teams.

That’s a shame.

who were the old amateur teams exactly based within the town?

i remember salterbeck had a team maybe in the late 90’s-early 00’s.

 

[Agbrigg]

I posted on another thread, my first visit to Cumbria after following the game for a long long time. I was impressed by the knowledge, friendliness and dedication of their small band of supporters. iI really think we should be supporting the region as it has so much to offer the game. 

Now tin hat time, it's a pity we can't divert a bit of our money time and energy we are supporting the French game with. Who after all this time have not produced one player who could ever get a place in the English International 17.

Blue touch paper now lit

[John bird]

4 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

I posted on another thread, my first visit to Cumbria after following the game for a long long time. I was impressed by the knowledge, friendliness and dedication of their small band of supporters. iI really think we should be supporting the region as it has so much to offer the game. 

Now tin hat time, it's a pity we can't divert a bit of our money time and energy we are supporting the French game with. Who after all this time have not produced one player who could ever get a place in the English International 17.

Blue touch paper now lit

I was born in Whitehaven and grew up there before moving away in my early 20’s and can remember a very vibrant amateur scene in the late 80’ and early 90’s.

It’s absolutely heartbreaking to see the demise of both town&haven as well as the amateur game. 

[dkw]

38 minutes ago, John bird said:

That’s a shame.

who were the old amateur teams exactly based within the town?

i remember salterbeck had a team maybe in the late 90’s-early 00’s.

 

Westfield, Westfield Hotel, salterbeck, Clifton, Mossbay, moorclose (for a very short time).

[Whippet13]

50 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

I posted on another thread, my first visit to Cumbria after following the game for a long long time. I was impressed by the knowledge, friendliness and dedication of their small band of supporters. iI really think we should be supporting the region as it has so much to offer the game. 

Now tin hat time, it's a pity we can't divert a bit of our money time and energy we are supporting the French game with. Who after all this time have not produced one player who could ever get a place in the English International 17.

Blue touch paper now lit

Never going to happen. If you cut Catalans funding, not a penny of that money would go to Cumbria. It is Super League money and would either pay for another team from Lancashire or Yorkshire, or be carved up amongst the other 11 clubs.

You can see proof of that in the way they are having to pay for visiting teams from next year, it is diverting a chunk of funding away from them and it is all going to the other 11 clubs.

A more beneficial suggestion would be spending time and effort understanding what has gone wrong and developing a plan to rectify it. Problem is, I dont think the RFL has a strategy (anywhere) that does that.

[JM2010]

I seem to remember reading somewhere on this forum that there was a bit of a resurgence in the community in Cumbria recently 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Agbrigg said:

I posted on another thread, my first visit to Cumbria after following the game for a long long time. I was impressed by the knowledge, friendliness and dedication of their small band of supporters. iI really think we should be supporting the region as it has so much to offer the game. 

Now tin hat time, it's a pity we can't divert a bit of our money time and energy we are supporting the French game with. Who after all this time have not produced one player who could ever get a place in the English International 17.

Blue touch paper now lit

What support for the French game? 

[dkw]

25 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

I seem to remember reading somewhere on this forum that there was a bit of a resurgence in the community in Cumbria recently 

That was maybe me, there's definitely been some good things happening in the amateur game round here, a lot more young lads and lasses at clubs etc.

[John bird]

1 hour ago, dkw said:

Westfield, Westfield Hotel, salterbeck, Clifton, Mossbay, moorclose (for a very short time).

Westfield were a well established club similar to the likes of Kells and hensingham in Whitehaven in terms of history and running junior sides?

[John bird]

28 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

I seem to remember reading somewhere on this forum that there was a bit of a resurgence in the community in Cumbria recently 

I’m a bit out of the loop but teams from cockermouth and aspatria are news to me as I always associated these town with rugby union.

[Hate the rec]

2 hours ago, dkw said:

Westfield, Westfield Hotel, salterbeck, Clifton, Mossbay, moorclose (for a very short time).

I think the Blue Bell pub had a team dkw, but I could be wrong tho .

[Neutralfan7]

9 hours ago, John bird said:

I was born in Whitehaven and grew up there before moving away in my early 20’s and can remember a very vibrant amateur scene in the late 80’ and early 90’s.

It’s absolutely heartbreaking to see the demise of both town&haven as well as the amateur game. 

I wouldn't say there is a demise in the amateur game in West Cumbria, I think if teams weren't in the NCL the Carla league would be very strong, however at the minute we have, Wath Brow, Egremont, Kells, Hensingham, Ellenborough, Seaton & Distington as well as Millom & Barrow Island from South of Cumbria

[Adelaide Tiger]

8 hours ago, Whippet13 said:

Never going to happen. If you cut Catalans funding, not a penny of that money would go to Cumbria. It is Super League money and would either pay for another team from Lancashire or Yorkshire, or be carved up amongst the other 11 clubs.

You can see proof of that in the way they are having to pay for visiting teams from next year, it is diverting a chunk of funding away from them and it is all going to the other 11 clubs.

A more beneficial suggestion would be spending time and effort understanding what has gone wrong and developing a plan to rectify it. Problem is, I dont think the RFL has a strategy (anywhere) that does that.

Referring to your second sentence.  I am continually frustrated by the penny pinching attitude of SL clubs.  It appears that Catalans have to fund SL clubs visits.  BTW if I was Catalans I would put a caveat on funding the costs for 18 players, the Coach and Physio only and give them all a packed lunch consisting of a potted beef sarnie, carton of juice and a choccy biscuit.

So why doesn’t SL say that the money saved by each SL club goes into a Development pot?  Then some of that money could be used as match funding for grants towards facilities and equipment ……. Oh, I forgot … that means SL clubs voting to lose this money.  Sod all chance of that happening!!

[dkw]

8 hours ago, Hate the rec said:

I think the Blue Bell pub had a team dkw, but I could be wrong tho .

I knew there was one, couldnt remember though. Should have known that one, my uncle played for them ha ha...

[yanto]

2 hours ago, Neutralfan7 said:

I wouldn't say there is a demise in the amateur game in West Cumbria.

Swings and roundabouts.  Flimby reform yet an old established club two mile up the road at Glasson Rangers pull their senior team out of the competition.

[Neutralfan7]

1 hour ago, yanto said:

Swings and roundabouts.  Flimby reform yet an old established club two mile up the road at Glasson Rangers pull their senior team out of the competition.

Yeah crying shame that mate, always a tough ask considering Maryport, Glasson and Elbra are about 200yds from each other

[Eddie]

19 hours ago, Agbrigg said:

 

Now tin hat time, it's a pity we can't divert a bit of our money time and energy we are supporting the French game with. Who after all this time have not produced one player who could ever get a place in the English International 17.

Blue touch paper now lit

By supporting the French game, do you mean making them pay all the away team’s travel costs and offering no other financial support? 

[John bird]

7 hours ago, yanto said:

Swings and roundabouts.  Flimby reform yet an old established club two mile up the road at Glasson Rangers pull their senior team out of the competition.

Are dearham still knocking about?

[dkw]

50 minutes ago, John bird said:

Are dearham still knocking about?

Nope, unfortunately. Broughton Red Rose are back though, but only at youth level at the moment but they're hoping to go open age soon. 

[Dave W]

13 hours ago, Neutralfan7 said:

I wouldn't say there is a demise in the amateur game in West Cumbria, I think if teams weren't in the NCL the Carla league would be very strong, however at the minute we have, Wath Brow, Egremont, Kells, Hensingham, Ellenborough, Seaton & Distington as well as Millom & Barrow Island from South of Cumbria

If you're going to include teams from the south of Cumbria, don't forget Askam in NCL Division 2.

There's also Dalton, Ulverston, Pioneers, Hindpool Tigers, Walney Central down here too, but they all play in the NW Counties due to it making more sense geographically. 

[Neutralfan7]

36 minutes ago, Dave W said:

If you're going to include teams from the south of Cumbria, don't forget Askam in NCL Division 2.

There's also Dalton, Ulverston, Pioneers, Hindpool Tigers, Walney Central down here too, but they all play in the NW Counties due to it making more sense geographically. 

Askam are no longer apart of the NCL and haven't been for a couple year mate, they have however just re-joined the Carla league. You're right I forgot about them clubs, I'd say the amateur game is thriving more than the semi pro clubs at the minute

[craig hamilton]

On 27/05/2024 at 22:19, John bird said:

I’m a bit out of the loop but teams from cockermouth and aspatria are news to me as I always associated these town with rugby union.

Aspatria Hornets were formed in 1891 and switched to Northern Union in 1898 following a dispute with the Cumberland RU for non-payment of travelling expenses to a final and lack of medals.

 

https://cumbriacrack.com/2021/10/20/aspatria-hornets-celebrate-130th-anniversary-in-style/#:~:text=Aspatria Hornets celebrated their 130th,24 victory over neighbours Cockermouth.

 

[Hopping Mad]

On 27/05/2024 at 21:03, dkw said:

Westfield, Westfield Hotel, salterbeck, Clifton, Mossbay, moorclose (for a very short time).

Broughton and Broughton Red Rose too far out of town?