Cheadle Leyther Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Have just turned over at half time in the Cowboys game to the All Bllacis game to see a perfect illustration of the video ref disallowing a try due to a forward psss. Why can’t we do this as I’ve lost count the number of tries given in Superleague from passes going forward? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 58 minutes ago, Cheadle Leyther said: Have just turned over at half time in the Cowboys game to the All Bllacis game to see a perfect illustration of the video ref disallowing a try due to a forward psss. Why can’t we do this as I’ve lost count the number of tries given in Superleague from passes going forward? How did they decide it was forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bobbruce said: How did they decide it was forward. Probably the same way that lots of us do when watching at home, some are as obvious as the nose on your face, and on lots of occasions the ref is inline with the pass but somehow misses it. Edited August 10 by Harry Stottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 5 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Probably the same way that lots of us do when watching at home, some are as obvious as the nose on your face, and on lots of occasions the ref is inline with the pass but somehow misses it. I’m wondering how the TMO decided it not how thousands of fans incorrectly decide. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, bobbruce said: I’m wondering how the TMO decided it not how thousands of fans incorrectly decide. Great example in the video below at 1min 15 secs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopie Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 30 minutes ago, bobbruce said: How did they decide it was forward. Probably the same way they decide if a ball goes forward off the hand to give a knock on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 minute ago, Hopie said: Probably the same way they decide if a ball goes forward off the hand to give a knock on. It isn’t the same ruling. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 One thing that always amazes me is how many fans just don't have a clue what a forward pass is, even after all this time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 52 minutes ago, Hopie said: Probably the same way they decide if a ball goes forward off the hand to give a knock on. This 50 minutes ago, bobbruce said: It isn’t the same ruling. Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Padge said: This True but the number of mistakes by the officials are just as glaring. Anyway have you sorted out your Virgin yet? Edited August 10 by Harry Stottle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 20 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: True but the number of mistakes by the officials are just as glaring. Anyway have you sorted out your Virgin yet? Just been on WhattsApp for 2 hours with them, result was "we'll raise an I.T. ticket to look into it". I don't see officials making that many mistakes, then again I know the laws. 1 1 Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 33 minutes ago, Padge said: Just been on WhattsApp for 2 hours with them, result was "we'll raise an I.T. ticket to look into it". I don't see officials making that many mistakes, then again I know the laws. Yes me too, that is why I can see for both forward passes and knock on's officials get a number of them wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I find the people who complain most about forward passes are the people who don't understand the forward pass rule. They also seem to of the opinion if it looks forward it must be forward. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapologetic pedant Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 2 hours ago, MZH said: One thing that always amazes me is how many fans just don't have a clue what a forward pass is, even after all this time. Not helped by equally clueless commentators. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 5 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said: I find the people who complain most about forward passes are the people who don't understand the forward pass rule. They also seem to of the opinion if it looks forward it must be forward. The clue is in the hands, if they are propelling the ball forward it is a forward, just like the example I gave above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapologetic pedant Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, Cheadle Leyther said: Have just turned over at half time in the Cowboys game to the All Bllacis game to see a perfect illustration of the video ref disallowing a try due to a forward psss. Why can’t we do this as I’ve lost count the number of tries given in Superleague from passes going forward? I've just watched the highlights of NZ/Argentina. The first try of the game included a pass that would definitely have been deemed "suspiciously forward" by League commentators. Looks as though the on-field ref just gave the try. No referral. Presumably this disallowed try was later on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: The clue is in the hands, if they are propelling the ball forward it is a forward, just like the example I gave above. Depends on the angle of the player in relation to the pitch, so not always a reliable 'clue'. 1 Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 It's really a question of philosophy and metaphysis. Observational empiricism Vs rationalism 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 While we still have the on field call there is no reason the video ref can't rule on forward passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Just now, The Blues Ox said: While we still have the on field call there is no reason the video ref can't rule on forward passes. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 26 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said: While we still have the on field call there is no reason the video ref can't rule on forward passes. There is mainly because most so called forward passes are 50-50 calls so you really are better leaving it to the officials opinion live. Imagine the moaning on here when the VR ref gets a tight call on a forward pass to win the grand final in the last minute. He couldn’t win everyone who wanted the try scoring would think it was fine and everyone who didn’t would be convinced it was a mile forward. It’s a can of worms we don’t need to open. I’m just interested on how the RU TMO rule on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 53 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said: While we still have the on field call there is no reason the video ref can't rule on forward passes. Very hard to make a decision when it's a flat pass even with a replay. I would much rather we didn't have every single on field decision checked by video tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, JohnM said: It's really a question of philosophy and metaphysis. Observational empiricism Vs rationalism Yes I once heard Barrie McDermott say just that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Well deserved Leeds win, fixed the completion problem 2nd half and defended well throughout. 1 Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalMrC Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 16 minutes ago, Padge said: Well deserved Leeds win, fixed the completion problem 2nd half and defended well throughout. Any forward passes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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