Cas takeover delayed.

[The Masked Poster]

2 hours ago, JohnM said:

I'll leave it to others to judge if you are accidentally or deliberately misunderstanding my position.

It's called OPINION, not POLICING.

On the topic of Salford, Castleford, Huddersfield, Featherstone, Bradford, London, (and whoever is next) in my opinion there has been among some, but only some, a genuine desire to discuss, to seek understanding, clarification and positive outcomes.

Asking the same question every five minutes on this topic yet showing no interest in a professional assesment of the teams wishes, hopes and expectations for the coming season seems to me to indicate on the part of some , an odd position.

 

It's called policing, not opinion. It's why you put the figures about how many interactions there had been on this thread Vs the pre season Salford one. As if it was some sort of guilt trip that fans aren't genuine fans because they aren't discussing what you think they should. 

And why would non Salford fans have a deep interest about their hopes and expectations for the upcoming season? That's just stretching it. Surely the biggest hope is that they actually start - and finish - the season. Which is mainly why this discussion is attracting wider interest from other people, hoping that it one day gets solved. 

This isn't the Moonies and people are free to talk about what they want. And no amount of hectoring from you will change that. 

[RigbyLuger]

3 hours ago, M j M said:

Many people involved in a takeover which has fallen through don't want their details to be public. That's just the real world and why many or most get announced after the deal is done.

And also makes those being bought look less foolish if it does. 

[Taffy Tiger]

On 01/02/2025 at 19:54, wasginger said:

While I have a bit of sympathy for Cas. Every time they've tried moving to a new stadium things have gone t**s up. Even last season putting seats in the Princess St stand was a sticking plaster solution. Cas have promised for well over 25 years to do something. When you look at other clubs like Hull KR who got promoted from the Championship and improved not only the ground but the fans match day experience. Even Wakefield who took nearly as long to renovate their ground, are still improving even after the building the new stand. Sadly we've reached a point in the game where it's no longer good enough just treading water each season.

How can Cas be blamed for this . In February 2015 planning permission was granted for a new 10,000 Stadium at Junction 32 . 

A new retail park was planned for J32 with the new ground to be situated next to the retail park.

We were a couple of months away from this happening when Covid struck .

During Covid the vast majority of people started to use the internet and order stuff online and it became clear that a new retail park would no longer be feasible.

This left Cas in limbo again and new owners Axiom were forced to change their plans and decided to build warehouses instead (to take advantage of the new online culture started during Covid).

Planning permission was granted in March 2024 , on the understanding that Axiom would pay cas around £12M under a S106 agreement (similar to that at Wakey for BV)

We are now waiting for funds to be released by Axiom , but that could still take some time . Martin Jepson has said that the earliest we will probably be able to proceed with the new stand build will be 2026.

In the meantime we have put seats in the PS stand , and added the VIP area to the main stand , to meet the minimum stadium requirements to gain maximum points under IMG criteria.

I'm  not sure what more Cas could have done in the last 10 years !

Edited February 3 by Taffy Tiger

[Taffy Tiger]

On 01/02/2025 at 20:07, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Try doubling that. They first said they were moving to Glasshoughton in the mid 70s - one day I'll get round to searching out the story from the P&C Express archive.

I do remember that , but iirc it was only really along on the lines of 'Cas may be getting a new ground built at Glasshoughton on old colliery site' , and it soon became obvious that there was no real substance to the story. 

[Agbrigg]

10 minutes ago, Taffy Tiger said:

 

 

 

Planning permission was granted in March 2024 , on the understanding that Axiom would pay cas around £12M under a S106 agreement (similar to that at Wakey for BV)

 

 

Yes it's frustrating I know. Wakey had their initial stadiums plans passed in 2010 up at Newmarket and after years of ducking and diving by the developer with a weak council we eventually got it all downgraded to one new stand and a north stand bodge job.

You just have to hang in and hope, the supporters can do very little.

However, on the plus side, your 106 is far more generous than Wakey. We only got £8M ish

[Dullish Mood]

1 hour ago, Taffy Tiger said:

How can Cas be blamed for this . In February 2015 planning permission was granted for a new 10,000 Stadium at Junction 32 . 

A new retail park was planned for J32 with the new ground to be situated next to the retail park.

We were a couple of months away from this happening when Covid struck .

During Covid the vast majority of people started to use the internet and order stuff online and it became clear that a new retail park would no longer be feasible.

This left Cas in limbo again and new owners Axiom were forced to change their plans and decided to build warehouses instead (to take advantage of the new online culture started during Covid).

Planning permission was granted in March 2024 , on the understanding that Axiom would pay cas around £12M under a S106 agreement (similar to that at Wakey for BV)

We are now waiting for funds to be released by Axiom , but that could still take some time . Martin Jepson has said that the earliest we will probably be able to proceed with the new stand build will be 2026.

In the meantime we have put seats in the PS stand , and added the VIP area to the main stand , to meet the minimum stadium requirements to gain maximum points under IMG criteria.

I'm  not sure what more Cas could have done in the last 10 years !

2015 you say?

[Taffy Tiger]

11 minutes ago, Dullish Mood said:

2015 you say?

sorry , plans announced in 2014 , PP was later

Edited February 3 by Taffy Tiger

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

2 hours ago, Taffy Tiger said:

I do remember that , but iirc it was only really along on the lines of 'Cas may be getting a new ground built at Glasshoughton on old colliery site' , and it soon became obvious that there was no real substance to the story. 

Plus ça change.....

[Taffy Tiger]

36 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Plus ça change.....

Oui C'est Ca

[dkw]

47 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Plus ça change.....

 

9 minutes ago, Taffy Tiger said:

Oui C'est Ca

Avez vous une cuppa?

[Fevrover]

On 01/02/2025 at 15:57, JohnM said:

This topic, Cas Takeover Delays has attracted 1k views and 22 replies at this time.

This topic SuperLeague 2025 : Castleford Tigers, season preview has 67 views and no replies.

Similar figures for the equivalent Salford topics.

Clearly, people are more interested in club problems than the actual game.

 

 

They love it when clubs have problems no dout about that.

[The Masked Poster]

1 hour ago, Fevrover said:

They love it when clubs have problems no dout about that.

Do you actually believe that? 

[Fevrover]

2 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Do you actually believe that? 

Definitely, take Featherstone for example, it's like a love in from some fans when anything 'untoward' happens.  Rugby League fans seem worse then football fans and ther'e bad enough. 

[The Masked Poster]

5 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

Definitely, take Featherstone for example, it's like a love in from some fans when anything 'untoward' happens.  Rugby League fans seem worse then football fans and ther'e bad enough. 

I think you're being a bit paranoid pal. People discuss things like clubs going bust or having financial problems, especially when they drag on for as long as the Salford situation. I doubt any genuine RL fan wants clubs to go under. 

Edited February 3 by The Masked Poster

[Fevrover]

18 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

I think you're being a bit paranoid pal. People discuss things like clubs going bust or having financial problems, especially when they drag on for as long as the Salford situation. I doubt any genuine RL fan wants clubs to go under. 

I didn't say they want us or any club to go under,but I've explained what some are like.

[Stanley30]

12 hours ago, Fevrover said:

I didn't say they want us or any club to go under,but I've explained what some are like.

Yorkshire press for you mate

[Fevrover]

5 hours ago, Stanley30 said:

Yorkshire press for you mate

Not just Yorkshire. 

[Stanley30]

4 hours ago, Fevrover said:

Not just Yorkshire. 

Well I'll be dammed. They usually love raking up negativity

[Tommygilf]

Is it just me or is this just giving time for extra investors to come on board?

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

Is it just me or is this just giving time for extra investors to come on board?

I don't think anyone is saying anything else.   

[Tommygilf]

1 minute ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

I don't think anyone is saying anything else.   

I thought it was officially for extra due diligence?

[JohnM]

On 03/02/2025 at 12:26, The Masked Poster said:

It's called policing, not opinion. It's why you put the figures about how many interactions there had been on this thread Vs the pre season Salford one. As if it was some sort of guilt trip that fans aren't genuine fans because they aren't discussing what you think they should. 

And why would non Salford fans have a deep interest about their hopes and expectations for the upcoming season? That's just stretching it. Surely the biggest hope is that they actually start - and finish - the season. Which is mainly why this discussion is attracting wider interest from other people, hoping that it one day gets solved. 

This isn't the Moonies and people are free to talk about what they want. And no amount of hectoring from you will change that. 

Complete and utter misrepresentation, deliberate misunderstanding, and all because you disagree with my opinion, which I stand by.  Of course people ( including me) are free to talk about what they want and it is completely unacceptable for you to say I said otherwise.  If you cant take it, put me on ignore. 

[Dave T]

39 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I thought it was officially for extra due diligence?

It actually states the due diligence has been completed, stating that it took longer than expected. As you say, it doesn't mention hoping extra investors come on board.

[The Masked Poster]

27 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Complete and utter misrepresentation, deliberate misunderstanding, and all because you disagree with my opinion, which I stand by.  Of course people ( including me) are free to talk about what they want and it is completely unacceptable for you to say I said otherwise.  If you cant take it, put me on ignore. 

Nonsense. You're tut tutting about what people are posting about and trying to claim that you're being misrepresented. I don't actually know what your opinion is on the Salford affair because you are too busy complaining that people are talking about it. 

People can read what has been put and decide who is trying to stop people voicing opinions. 

[Taffy Tiger]

29 minutes ago, Dave T said:

It actually states the due diligence has been completed, stating that it took longer than expected. As you say, it doesn't mention hoping extra investors come on board.

MJ has openly said that there is more work involved than he imagined and that he would like more investors on board to help , but I don't think that this will stop him purchasing the club (hopefully) . The extension , as you say , would appear to be due to the length of time taken to complete the due dilligence , and if that can also give MJ time to find other investors then all well and good . I guess time will tell .