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11 hours ago, Maximus Decimus said:

Next season....

It would be financially terrible for Everton to get relegated apparently. Of course it is for all, but the new stadium is kind of reliant on the PL.

Everton big club, proud history,  new stadium,  where are IMG when you need them? Perhaps they can change sports,  play RL , pushed into SL, they obviously can't play top tier football.

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20 minutes ago, HawkMan said:

Everton big club, proud history,  new stadium,  where are IMG when you need them? Perhaps they can change sports,  play RL , pushed into SL, they obviously can't play top tier football.

Sadly, being a big club historically is no longer a guarantee that you'll stay a big club.

Realistically, it's been 30 odd years since Everton were truly a big club. Nothing stopping Everton going the way of Leeds or Sunderland.

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6 hours ago, Maximus Decimus said:

Sadly, being a big club historically is no longer a guarantee that you'll stay a big club.

Realistically, it's been 30 odd years since Everton were truly a big club. Nothing stopping Everton going the way of Leeds or Sunderland.

About 40 years ago relegation to the Division 2 might not have been a bad thing for Everton.

Go down, sort themselves out and come back up riding a crest of a wave and hope you can do a Nottingham Forest circa late 70’s and 80’s.

Nowadays the consequences are far reaching though.

Not sure English football is any better for the gulf in class that’s developed.

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3 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Everton big club, proud history,  new stadium,  where are IMG when you need them? Perhaps they can change sports,  play RL , pushed into SL, they obviously can't play top tier football.

Big club? No longer and been run badly for a long time now.

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For about 3 seasons Everton have been one of the worse teams in the league. At the end of each season they have then sold some of their better players without replacing them. Richarlison,Gordon,Iwobi,Onana and more you can’t keep doing that. It’s a miracle they haven’t been relegated already. They will get found out eventually though and it looks like this could be the year. Which would be awful timing for them I’m sure they are thinking if they could just hold on until they get into the new ground they could start diverting money back to the team. 

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51 minutes ago, HawkMan said:

Skysports Ref Watch

Did Rice deserve to go ? An ex ref's view.

 

I don't have a problem at all with it being a second yellow. He kicks the ball away to stop Brighton taking a quick free kick. It's petulant. Are the people complaining about it saying you can kick it away so long as the ball only goes a few feet, but if you boot it further away, it's a yellow? Just leave the ball alone and you'll be fine.

I will accept that Rice might feel a bit unlucky in the sense that plenty of other players have done similar and gotten away with it, but that's tough. He's probably done it before himself and gotten away with it, but on this occasion he got penalised for it. Play with fire and sometimes you'll get burnt.

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11 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

SAN MARINO HAVE WON!!!!!

This shows the value of the Nations League. Teams of matching abilities playing each other with p+r between leagues. Previously I wouldn't bother with friendlies, will watch  though with so something riding on it,  just enjoyed the Scotland/Poland match.

FYI -All England matches now on ITV, so Channel 4 lost RL and England football. After this current international break, Scotland and N.Ireland matches probably on BBC and Premier , this break Scotland on ITV4, N Ireland on ITV 3 tonight,  Sunday on ITVX. Wales on SC4 and BBC I PLAYER

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2 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

HT at Faroe Islands v North Macedonia, Faroes winning 1-0. I'm loving all the Nations League games being free to air, I've watched some very random games so far! 👍

For those that aren't aware, all Nations league games are available for free on the YouTube channel, 'viaplay international'.

Do they have commentaries? I switched on Faroes match for 5 minutes,  turned it off, no commentary ! I'll watch the Germany Hungary game tonight.

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2 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Do they have commentaries? I switched on Faroes match for 5 minutes,  turned it off, no commentary ! I'll watch the Germany Hungary game tonight.

Update; When Premier TV took over from Viaplay they bought the La Liga contract and Scottish Premier and League Cup games, but not Nations League,  which Viaplay still hold.

Agreements in place for Home Nations games, but nowt else has been agreed. So this first round of games are on youtube without commentary. Germany Hungary game hasn't appeared so I'll watch Netherlands Bosnia.  Hopefully by October either Premier or someone else will have the rights. 

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42 minutes ago, HawkMan said:

Update; When Premier TV took over from Viaplay they bought the La Liga contract and Scottish Premier and League Cup games, but not Nations League,  which Viaplay still hold.

Agreements in place for Home Nations games, but nowt else has been agreed. So this first round of games are on youtube without commentary. Germany Hungary game hasn't appeared so I'll watch Netherlands Bosnia.  Hopefully by October either Premier or someone else will have the rights. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqMaCaG4E5g

Link to Germany v Hungary.

Edit. My mistake, that link doesn't seem to be working but it is working on the YouTube app.

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1 minute ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VqMaCaG4E5g

Link to Germany v Hungary.

Just discovered Germany game was on Viaplay International on YT after all , it was mislabelled as Sweden v Estonia! However really enjoyed Netherlands v Bosnia 2- 1 to Netherlands, so I'll stay with that.

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Netherlands 3-1 , probably game over, so I switched on Ukraine v Albania.  Wow, what an incredible atmosphere,  packed stadium,  and it's in Prague, and as I tuned in Albania scored to lead 2-1, I'll stay here methinks. The Nations League is catching the imagination.

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6 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

HT at Faroe Islands v North Macedonia, Faroes winning 1-0. I'm loving all the Nations League games being free to air, I've watched some very random games so far! 👍

For those that aren't aware, all Nations league games are available for free on the YouTube channel, 'viaplay international'.

There are CONCACAF Nations League games too!

YouTube has just recommended me Turks & Caicos v Belize. These are countries so small and unfootball that FIFA often has special rules in place just so they can get enough players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADeI3cYIF94 

 

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Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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53 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I'm getting settled in for a world class double bill of international football. Luxembourg v Belarus at 2, followed by Gibraltar v Liechtenstein at 5.

Denmark v Serbia at 5 surely? That should be a decent game.

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What an incredible end to the Gibraltar game!

1-1 going into 9 minutes of added time and Liechtenstein score in the 93rd minute. The goal goes to VAR and is chalked off for offside. From the following free kick, Gibraltar go straight up the field and score to make it 2-1. Because of the VAR, added time is extended to 13 minutes and in the last minute of the time, Liechtenstein are awarded a penalty for a Gibraltar handball in the box. They score the penalty and it ends 2-2. What an incredible period of added time that was!!

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