The loony left. Doncha jest lurve 'em!

[JohnM]

Lincoln Uni Students Unions bans Conservatives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/03/07/student-union-bans-conservative-society-speaking-challenged/

[Oxford]

10 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Lincoln Uni Students Unions bans Conservatives.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/03/07/student-union-bans-conservative-society-speaking-challenged/

Oh dear the Telegraph silly season time everyone, get ready for labour politician ate my panda and Barbie's Ken deemed gay in the Daily Mail!

[Griff9of13]

Daft indeed, but it makes no mention of the political affiliations of the students union.

[Futtocks]

I hate people who strise.  

[getdownmonkeyman]

2 hours ago, Griff9of13 said:

Daft indeed, but it makes no mention of the political affiliations of the students union.

People believe what they want to believe. Calling an overcoat a donkey jacket, for example.

[JohnM]

3 hours ago, Griff9of13 said:

Daft indeed, but it makes no mention of the political affiliations of the students union.

It s just a guess mind you, but I don't thinks its the Conservatives. 

[gingerjon]

We deratified the Tories as a joke but gave money to the Inverness Caledonian Thistle Supporters Club (Lampeter Branch) so they could buy beer.

I think that sums up student politics.

[JohnM]

12 hours ago, Oxford said:

Oh dear the Telegraph silly season time everyone, get ready for labour politician ate my panda and Barbie's Ken deemed gay in the Daily Mail!

Fortunately,  nothing like that gets past the superior intellects on the TRL forums, unless of course  it's posted on the numerous Pawnbroker threads. 

[Wolford6]

I see Bradford is rated completely intolerant.

Good job the alumni are nothing like that.

[Trojan]

The trouble with this country is that while the loony left is on the fringe, the loony right is running things.

[Wolford6]

13 minutes ago, Trojan said:

The trouble with this country is that while the loony left is on the fringe, the loony right is running things.

If this had happened thirty years ago, half of those loony leftwing students would now be voting Conservative or LibDem. 20% would be voting UKIP

[JohnM]

35 minutes ago, Trojan said:

The trouble with this country is that while the loony left is on the fringe, the loony right is running things.

Look, you retro-Reds have got your own threads, many of them in fact, totally dedicated to your sport of moaning, groaning, whinging, whining and misrepresenting the politics, actions etc  of the Blues.  I know you outnumber us sensible ones on here by 1000 to 1 but that is no reason to spoil this thread. The only one I join with these days is the Labour /Corby thread, and only then to join in the general hilarity.

[Just Browny]

4 hours ago, JohnM said:

Look, you retro-Reds have got your own threads, many of them in fact, totally dedicated to your sport of moaning, groaning, whinging, whining and misrepresenting the politics, actions etc  of the Blues.  I know you outnumber us sensible ones on here by 1000 to 1 but that is no reason to spoil this thread. The only one I join with these days is the Labour /Corby thread, and only then to join in the general hilarity.

Wow.

[Phil]

7 hours ago, JohnM said:

Look, you retro-Reds have got your own threads, many of them in fact, totally dedicated to your sport of moaning, groaning, whinging, whining and misrepresenting the politics, actions etc  of the Blues.  I know you outnumber us sensible ones on here by 1000 to 1 but that is no reason to spoil this thread. The only one I join with these days is the Labour /Corby thread, and only then to join in the general hilarity.

But...but...if you judge "normality" by the norm, then we lefties of various stripes are the norm on here, there's "thousands" of us according to you. Therefore. You, Saint Toppy and Saintslass, plus one or two others are the aberration, by definition you're abnormal.

Of course in a truly socialist society you could be re-educated and thus be of some use for the common good. 

[Wolford6]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Of course in a truly socialist society you could be re-educated and thus be of some use for the common good. 

And I thought Mao Zedong was dead.

[Phil]

27 minutes ago, Wolford6 said:

And I thought Mao Zedong was dead.

Your total inability to detect irony and self deprecation is pretty much what I expect of you 

[Wolford6]

Fine job.

[Oxford]

13 hours ago, JohnM said:

Fortunately,  nothing like that gets past the superior intellects on the TRL forums, unless of course  it's posted on the numerous Pawnbroker threads. 

Always used Mays myself and intellect is a dirty word in the UK so go easy there.

Besides the criminal loan companies are evidence enough of where we are now, even if you were imbecilic.

[Tommygilf]

I'd recommend watching the Jonathan Pie video on this topic. Completely gets it right on how Student politics in the vast majority of Universities is no longer interested in debating topics outside of its realm of acceptability, only to ban those ideas it has issues with. There's links to a lot of intellectual elitism that is (unfortunately) a predicate to most HE institutions. There is a sort of irony to this being referred to as "liberal": new social Democratic or ideological centrist elitism maybe but definitely not liberal. 

On the other hand a Scottish politics lecturer I had this week openly jested at the people who consider themselves "radical" at uni now, saying they'll be conservative with a small c within 5 years!

[Mister Ting]

On 08/03/2017 at 5:25 PM, Wolford6 said:

And I thought Mao Zedong was dead.

He is, but Chiang Kai-Shek still seems to be with us.

[DoubleD]

On ‎09‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 10:57 AM, Johnoco said:

Universities used to be bastions of free thinking. No longer the case at all. Talk about and agree with certain points then you're OK. If not, get out and physical attack is seen as acceptable.

 No safe spaces for differing viewpoints obviously.

Doesn't that just sum up the whole snowflakes generation though?..............

[Griff9of13]

15 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

It's a bit like this...deviate from accepted thinking on any currently 'hip' topic and prepare to get some abuse.

Take for instance the broadcaster Jenny Murray who made the comment that transexual men, were not real women. Now I find this woman pretty annoying but nonetheless she's right IMO. And even if she's wrong, how does holding that opinion make her bigoted? She didn't say 'f###### freaks' or anything nasty, she just voiced her opinion. On Twitter she was called all manner of insulting names, all by people allegedly interested in tolerance? Pull the other one, these keyboard warriors are every bit as intolerant as those they rant about, they just have different targets.

They're full of sheeite in other words.

I think this is key; the advent of the Internet and (anti) social media is enabling people to say things at a comfortable distance that they would never dream of saying face to face. 

[Phil]

42 minutes ago, Griff9of13 said:

I think this is key; the advent of the Internet and (anti) social media is enabling people to say things at a comfortable distance that they would never dream of saying face to face. 

To be fair (to myself ? ) Johnoco has seen a video of me "talking face to face" with people I disagree with 

[Trojan]

18 hours ago, Johnoco said:

That's definitely true but we've also got the scenario where people are actually banned from speaking at Unis  etc simply because they have a different (not radical) opinion. The far right, for example, have never been elected in this country, nor even come close to it, and have always been defeated by showing their argument up for what it is, not by just banning them. 

But now the right wing have IMO by entryism (a term that used to be reserved for Labour) buried themselves in a legit (?) political party - UKIP.

[Griff9of13]

9 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Just reading that a female judge has been criticised for stating that women who drink to excess and render themselves incapable are more vulnerable to rapists. She's been criticised for 'shifting the blame' from victims. Except she never mentioned blame, only pointed out a truth. This is the sort of knee jerk criticism I'm on about. 

Go out tonight, get absolutely hammered to the point of passing out and sit on a bench in a town centre, guess what? You're vulnerable to someone rifling through your pockets. Not that they're entitled to but that's what can happen.

I agree entirely. At some point you have to accept you have a duty of care to yourself. Even as a man I won't go out and get myself incapably ###### up in a public place making myself a vulnerable target for some low-life. If I did and I was robbed or given a good kicking or whatever wouldn't mean I was "asking for it" though. Unfortunately this is a defense often used by rape case defendants. That is where the problem lies and it's about time judges made it clear that it is absolutely unacceptable to offer that as a defense in court.