welshmagpie Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 It’s a pretty strong side, just again (as usual) lacking half backs. http://internationalrlsquads.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/8/7/1887190/tonga_2019_oc1.pdf I’m also going to shamelessly plug my website here. http://internationalrlsquads.weebly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I wonder if Leeds are happy about Lolohea being involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 There's another strong 17 in the making there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaguefan13 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 half backs away from being able to beat the very best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Room Lizard Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 As others have said very powerful but the Spine especially the halves they are weak.Hopoate is a ok Fullback but offers little threat. Asiata has been impressive with the Cowboys for me and is hard to handle but has a good hands. But has no real kicking game. Dont see what Lolohea offers to anybody. A poor player for me. Hookers some good players if not outstanding. Wish they had a better spine as they would challenge and maybe beat Australia. To have the likes of young Kotoni Staggs, Manase Fainu is good for now and great for the future. That pack for me is as good as any around is fairly young. Thats where Tonga will have it over the other Nations for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Same old same old . Looks a strong pack with potency in the backs but it’s the halves that hold the key and make the difference and they haven’t got them . No way Tui and Asiata are even remotely international halves with the required skill set . Until they nail that beating the best consistently will be tough , but they’ll always be competitive with what they have now and pull it off now n again on natural ability . Put two halves in and there’s no one stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 I know they’ve got Hingano, who’s injured and Lange, who is at Catalans but they really do need that all elusive half back. Is there anyone young in QLD/NSW Cup or U20s of Tongan heritage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, deluded pom? said: I wonder if Leeds are happy about Lolohea being involved? Leeds fans certainly are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Will the game be on sky sports in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Seems not, surprising given the two Tests are. https://www.rugbyleagueontv.com/internationals Saturday 22nd June 6:30am Oceania Cup - Pool A New Zealand v Tonga LIVE STREAM: Fox League via Watch NRL 8:45am Time Pacific Test Fiji v Lebanon LIVE TV: Sky Sports (Channel TBC) LIVE STREAM: Fox League via Watch NRL 11:00am Oceania Cup - Pool B Papua New Guinea v Samoa LIVE TV: Sky Sports (Channel TBC) LIVE STREAM: Fox League via Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, welshmagpie said: I know they’ve got Hingano, who’s injured and Lange, who is at Catalans but they really do need that all elusive half back. Is there anyone young in QLD/NSW Cup or U20s of Tongan heritage? You mean Australians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: You mean Australians? Australian born, New Zealand born, Tongan born... anybody that’s eligible I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 17 hours ago, welshmagpie said: Australian born, New Zealand born, Tongan born... anybody that’s eligible I suppose. Is there any Tongan born representatives in the Tongan team squad, or if there is did they learn their trade in Tonga? Is Rugby League actually played in Tonga amongst it's native population and if so at what standard for example would they be better than say a native Serbian team? Not that I expect you to know all those answers Maggie but some people on this site may have an opinion to the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookey Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: Is there any Tongan born representatives in the Tongan team squad, or if there is did they learn their trade in Tonga? Is Rugby League actually played in Tonga amongst it's native population and if so at what standard for example would they be better than say a native Serbian team? Not that I expect you to know all those answers Maggie but some people on this site may have an opinion to the questions. Sounds a bit like the English cricket team or Union side then. Where do the England cricket team stay when they tour South Africa. At home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, cookey said: Sounds a bit like the English cricket team or Union side then. Where do the England cricket team stay when they tour South Africa. At home. Totally agree with you, what you don't say though Cookey is wether you applaud or disagree with country hoppers or not? And, your last sentence is very much what I have said about Toronto, coming from the town I hail from, I know a few of the player's TWP have employed in the last 2 and a half years and the joke is "are you away this week sleeping in your own bed, or are you at home, staying away!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 For DavO5 with your confused emoji, its very simple really, I believe that the vast majority of the Tongan players are born and bred Australian and z couple if Kiwi's who are representing Tonga through the heritage ruling which if I am correct goes up to grandparent level, how are Tonga going to keep a qulity team going in future years, are pregnant wives and girlfriends going to jump on a plane to the island to give birth in order keep the lineage going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said: For DavO5 with your confused emoji, its very simple really, I believe that the vast majority of the Tongan players are born and bred Australian and z couple if Kiwi's who are representing Tonga through the heritage ruling which if I am correct goes up to grandparent level, how are Tonga going to keep a qulity team going in future years, are pregnant wives and girlfriends going to jump on a plane to the island to give birth in order keep the lineage going? Harry, I know nothing of your personal and family life. But let us suppose you fell in love with and married an Australian woman and you decided to move there. And then you had a son. Would you be proud of him if he said he wanted to represent England at Rugby League or would you berate him and persuade him that he was an Australian. (p.s. please don't come back to me and say you are already married etc etc. This is a thought experiment) "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinos78 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: For DavO5 with your confused emoji, its very simple really, I believe that the vast majority of the Tongan players are born and bred Australian and z couple if Kiwi's who are representing Tonga through the heritage ruling which if I am correct goes up to grandparent level, how are Tonga going to keep a qulity team going in future years, are pregnant wives and girlfriends going to jump on a plane to the island to give birth in order keep the lineage going? Dont overthink it, just enjoy the next ten year of having another competitive, very exciting nation in the mix. See what happpens in future when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith989 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: For DavO5 with your confused emoji, its very simple really, I believe that the vast majority of the Tongan players are born and bred Australian and z couple if Kiwi's who are representing Tonga through the heritage ruling which if I am correct goes up to grandparent level, how are Tonga going to keep a qulity team going in future years, are pregnant wives and girlfriends going to jump on a plane to the island to give birth in order keep the lineage going? The simple answer is they aren't going to keep a quality team all the time. Their form will fluctuate vastly from generation to generation just like their union counter parts. The Samoan union team were in a similar position a while back when they were beating the likes of Wales and Aus away in 2011/12 and they were the talk of the town but now their form has fallen off a cliff and there was a brief worry they wouldn't even qualify for the world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: Is there any Tongan born representatives in the Tongan team squad, or if there is did they learn their trade in Tonga? Is Rugby League actually played in Tonga amongst it's native population and if so at what standard for example would they be better than say a native Serbian team? Not that I expect you to know all those answers Maggie but some people on this site may have an opinion to the questions. Tonga Residents have recently played a 3 game series against Fiji Residents, so yes. sign up to the leagueunlimited forums, lots of international stuff is discussed over there. It’ll keep you in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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