Trojan 3,197 Report post Posted October 10, 2019 Would have been 60 today Quote “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Frightful 5,804 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 Music is one of the things that can really stir my emotions. When I hear the piano intro part of "The Fairytale of New York" each Christmas, I nearly always find myself welling up, and it's not just the sheer quality of this classic tune that does it. Part of it is remembering the appalling tragedy of her death and also the subsequent "investigation" into the events that surrounded it. Wealthy Mexican businessman, powerful speed cruiser, pop star scuba diving with her children in waters where such craft were banned, lowly deckhand with no licence, suddenly claiming to have been at the helm, part way through the investigation. It reads like a work of fiction. If only it had been one. 4 Quote "Son, can you play me a memory, I'm not really sure how it goes, but it's sad and it's sweet and I knew it complete, when I wore a younger man's clothes" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan 3,197 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Old Frightful said: Music is one of the things that can really stir my emotions. When I hear the piano intro part of "The Fairytale of New York" each Christmas, I nearly always find myself welling up, and it's not just the sheer quality of this classic tune that does it. Part of it is remembering the appalling tragedy of her death and also the subsequent "investigation" into the events that surrounded it. Wealthy Mexican businessman, powerful speed cruiser, pop star scuba diving with her children in waters where such craft were banned, lowly deckhand with no licence, suddenly claiming to have been at the helm, part way through the investigation. It reads like a work of fiction. If only it had been one. Her mother tried to get to the bottom of it, but of course the Mexican had much deeper pockets than she had. Kirsty was a huge talent. I went to one of her birthday commemorations at Soho Square - it was very moving. 1 Quote “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bleep1673 1,521 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 Dad, Ewan, born in Broughton, Salford. 1 Quote Sex and Money are like Oxygen They're not important until you're not getting enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan 3,197 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Bleep1673 said: Dad, Ewan, born in Broughton, Salford. He wrote "Dirty Old Town" about Salford, also "The Manchester Ramhler" about the famous mass trespass. He was married to Kirsty's mum and then to Peggy Seeger of the famous US folk group The Weavers Quote “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeds Wire 756 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1182296641858101251?s=20 Edited October 11, 2019 by Leeds Wire 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padge 5,709 Report post Posted October 11, 2019 An extremely talented woman, whose death was tragic and a travesty of justice. 5 Quote Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 04:01, Old Frightful said: When I hear the piano intro part of "The Fairytale of New York" each Christmas, I nearly always find myself welling up, and it's not just the sheer quality of this classic tune that does it I know I'm in a minority but I hate it. Always depresses me.... The fake Irish accents make the whole thing so ungenuine too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graveyard johnny 1,781 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 her cover of the smiths - you just haven't earned it yet baby -is good 1 Quote the grass may be greener on the other side of the fence but the crows are just as black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mumby Magic 625 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I know I'm in a minority but I hate it. Always depresses me.... The fake Irish accents make the whole thing so ungenuine too Where are the pogues from then Keighley? Quote Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mumby Magic said: Where are the pogues from then Keighley? The lead singer has an English accent when he speaks, grew up in England! Anyone not singing in there own accent annoys me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oxford 4,272 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 Kirsty was wonderful When you read the life of her Dad it is a reminder of all the forgotten things but there's absolutely no in point bringing them up again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,451 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: The lead singer has an English accent when he speaks, grew up in England! Anyone not singing in there own accent annoys me Well, that's nearly all British rock and pop singers out of it then........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,451 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: The lead singer has an English accent when he speaks, grew up in England! Anyone not singing in there own accent annoys me Shane spent some of his life in Ireland. His vocal delivery was very much playing a part. Some found his delivery to be very over the top and perhaps to imitative of some of the sixties and seventies Irish folk/ballad singers. Some of his songs are better sung by others, although Furry Tail of New York isn't one of them in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, longboard said: Well, that's nearly all British rock and pop singers out of it then........ Yep.... For me genuinely! Almost all the bans I liked sand in their own accent. Blur, Pulp, Suede, Cast... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, longboard said: His vocal delivery was very much playing a part. I think that's always been my issue If someone is acting in a play/movie fine If someone has wrote a song and we are to believe it's genuine and means something then don't fake it. I want to hear the real person delivering their message not a pastiche Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,451 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Yep.... For me genuinely! Almost all the bans I liked sand in their own accent. Blur, Pulp, Suede, Cast... Blur - Albarn's mockney accent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,451 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I think that's always been my issue If someone is acting in a play/movie fine If someone has wrote a song and we are to believe it's genuine and means something then don't fake it. I want to hear the real person delivering their message not a pastiche It's a persona with most performers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, longboard said: Blur - Albarn's mockney accent! He was raised in Leytonstone!! An area I know way too well (the O'Neil there still haunts my nightmares) Some of the strongest cockney accents going are from that way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 Just now, longboard said: It's a persona with most performers. Of course... And everything I am happy to be a bit made up bar the singing accent Can't explain it but always felt that way Might well have cost me a lot of music pleasure over the years!... However it made me love Sleeper and Elastica more! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longboard 1,451 Report post Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: He was raised in Leytonstone!! An area I know way too well (the O'Neil there still haunts my nightmares) Some of the strongest cockney accents going are from that way He's a middle class boy through and through. Nothing wrong with that of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oxford 4,272 Report post Posted October 17, 2019 I don't mind people doing accents except when they do them badly I had to switch off Holmes and Watson the other day because of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM 6,836 Report post Posted October 17, 2019 McGowan: private prep school, then Westminster. Probably not his choice but education maketh the man. Quote Four legs good - two legs bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Ting 369 Report post Posted October 17, 2019 On 16/10/2019 at 14:52, Bedfordshire Bronco said: I know I'm in a minority but I hate it. Always depresses me.... The fake Irish accents make the whole thing so ungenuine too You and your fake accents. However, you're not alone. I'm no fan of that particular song. Quote Learn to listen without distortion and learn to look without imagination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bedfordshire Bronco 1,411 Report post Posted October 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mister Ting said: You and your fake accents. However, you're not alone. I'm no fan of that particular song. Yep I have a thing about it.... Most people seem not to care so guess I'm the odd one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
