coronavirus

[Robin Evans]

Most of us have occasionally crossed the line. It happens and in most cases folks respond positively. 

Its interesting how tribal we can behave on the politics forum.

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

Getting eerily close now - plot holder on my allotment site died yesterday. He'd been taken into hospital a couple of days earlier with covid symptoms.

[Robin Evans]

Former miner in wath died yesterday too.

[ckn]

I don't think there's anyone on here who this'll apply to, but there's a lot of folk out there who simply won't see this properly until someone they know dies.

[gingerjon]

12 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Getting eerily close now - plot holder on my allotment site died yesterday. He'd been taken into hospital a couple of days earlier with covid symptoms.

I don’t personally know anyone but I’ve now seen a fair few “knew their work” and “friend of a friend” deaths.

This is a horrible time.

[Shadow]

18 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Getting eerily close now - plot holder on my allotment site died yesterday. He'd been taken into hospital a couple of days earlier with covid symptoms.

is there a waiting list for allotments? 

[ckn]

13 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I don’t personally know anyone but I’ve now seen a fair few “knew their work” and “friend of a friend” deaths.

This is a horrible time.

For our clinicians, many knew the GP who died in Essex and the nurse who died was from our patch. That's changed a lot of attitudes from "let's make the best of this" to "no" when being asked to do more with less.

[Damien]

8 minutes ago, Shadow said:

is there a waiting list for allotments? 

I thought something similar but wasn't sure whether to go there. You've now set the bar.

[Damien]

Eddie Large dies of Coronavirus but it seems like he had a lot of other health issues too.

[Shadow]

8 minutes ago, Damien said:

I thought something similar but wasn't sure whether to go there. You've now set the bar.

I was going to use the "asking for a friend" excuse  but I'm really not 

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

21 minutes ago, Shadow said:

is there a waiting list for allotments? 

Apparently the first question the site secretary asked was whether his family were giving the plot up! Sadly I also noticed that the lock on his gate had already been forced open......

[DavidM]

8 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Apparently the first question the site secretary asked was whether his family were giving the plot up! Sadly I also noticed that the lock on his gate had already been forced open......

The plot thickens ... ( sorry )

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

2 minutes ago, DavidM said:

The plot thickens ... ( sorry )

Mrs Tonks has already declared that should anything happen to me she'll be straight up there to rescue anything of value. 

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

17 hours ago, shaun mc said:

I am meaning stuff to grow from seeds and not bags of salad and rocket.....??

Go on Dobies, Suttons, Thompson-Morgan, etc, they are all out of stock and/or closed for a while to catch orders up as everyone is growing at home

Something to try in the meantime

[Saintslass]

1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:

Getting eerily close now - plot holder on my allotment site died yesterday. He'd been taken into hospital a couple of days earlier with covid symptoms.

I had that feeling a couple of weeks ago when my employer was still allowing hot desking but I could hear the coughing around the office and the guy I'd been sitting next to the previous week was absent with Covid like symptoms.

I've always had very good hand hygiene but I'm now OCD and I wash my hands so often that I have a band of red, dry skin around each wrist and I've got through two full tubes of hand cream in the last three weeks.

[gingerjon]

Another day, another 'more than 500' dead ...

[gingerjon]

If you want a bit of perspective on that, the death rate during the 8 months of the Blitz was 165(ish) a night - obviously some nights significantly more and others less.

[Robin Evans]

43 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

I had that feeling a couple of weeks ago when my employer was still allowing hot desking but I could hear the coughing around the office and the guy I'd been sitting next to the previous week was absent with Covid like symptoms.

I've always had very good hand hygiene but I'm now OCD and I wash my hands so often that I have a band of red, dry skin around each wrist and I've got through two full tubes of hand cream in the last three weeks.

I've counted today. I'm uptown 48 hand washes... and then alcohol rinse. If I didn't have a large cetraben at home and one in my pocket when at work/shopping, my hands would look like cabbage!

Advise is to use a good quality moisturiser as oft as poss and clip your finger nails.

[Robin Evans]

My brother in law is now in ICU Blackpool vic.

My niece is now in ICU Perth WA. Her husband is covid-19 +'ve.

Fkn great!!

[MattSantos]

Are the airports still open?

[Robin Evans]

No

[Clogiron]

As a chilling thought our local hospital had it's first death from Covid-19 on the 26th of march, yesterday it reported it's ninth! Seven days isn't a long time for those sort of figures to accumulate. Go on, look up your local hospitals figures to frighten yourself

[Les Tonks Sidestep]

16 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

Are the airports still open?

Think it depends where (and when) you want to go

While most airlines are grounding planes, Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has been given permission to run several routes.

PIA will run a total of 17 international flights from 4 - 11 April. They will mainly be going between Islamabad and London, Manchester, Birmingham and Toronto, PIA confirmed to our BBC Pakistan & Afghanistan correspondent Secunder Kemani.

Flights were suspended two weeks ago with just a few hours notice as the country went into lockdown.

A number of British families have been left stranded in Pakistan and had called on the UK government to get them home.

One man, an NHS consultant, told the BBC he wanted to return as soon as possible to support his colleagues in Liverpool.

“I want to be there with my team, as frontline staff, being able to offer as much as I can in this war against coronavirus.”

[ckn]

For those interested, the brand new PPE standards

And the primary/community care specific ones that some on here will be keen to see

Importantly, this is now an INDIVIDUAL authority to wear or not, not an organisational one. You now have the authority to refuse to do certain things if you don't have the kit, here it is in the original big bold text from the document:

Ultimately, where staff consider there is a risk to themselves or the individuals they are caring for they should wear a fluid repellent surgical mask with or without eye protection, as determined by the individual staff member for the episode of care or single session.

[Bedford Roughyed]

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She described a patient being brought in from an old people's home. He was already on a ventilator - and was "chronically vent dependent". His prospects were never great. But all she could see before her was the ventilator - and not the patient. 

"When he came in we were so desperate for vents," she told me, "all I wanted to do was get the ventilator off him. I wanted to get that vent off him to allow it to go to someone else."

Playing god is not what this young woman thought she would be doing at this stage in her career.