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31 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

Which is good and there definitely will be regional variations. But for example the traffic going to and from work is pretty much as it was before, not quite but not far off. Whereas say, 3 weeks ago the roads were like a ghost town and I was expecting to get stopped by the cops (I have a letter from work authorising travel to and from it)

This is pretty much my experience here in Rovrum

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4 hours ago, Robin Evans said:

This is pretty much my experience here in Rovrum

Similar here in St Helens, in terms of car usage anyway but then St Helens yesterday once again had the dubious title of the place with the highest Covid infections in Merseyside, which we seem to swap with Knowsley every few days.

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Totally oblivious to conditions outside of my house. Just the occasional comments from the wife if she’s gone out for supplies, she’s invariably done this first thing in the morning. I have heard the neighbours’ kids playing in the street more this week

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An anecdote at best but maybe a sign of the future. When my father-in-law retired as a dentist, he sold his practice to a younger guy. Well, that younger dentist, now in his early 50s has just said he’s retiring as he can’t see a way back into it being a sustainable business. A few other dentists in their 60s have done the same in the area.

I wonder how many other businesses will do the same and just bite the bullet of either early retirement or thinking their business isn’t recoverable and giving up.


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13 minutes ago, Saintslass said:

Similar here in St Helens, in terms of car usage anyway but then St Helens yesterday once again had the dubious title of the place with the highest Covid infections in Merseyside, which we seem to swap with Knowsley every few days.

How much are you guys paying for a liter of gas over there?

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Just now, ckn said:

An anecdote at best but maybe a sign of the future. When my father-in-law retired as a dentist, he sold his practice to a younger guy. Well, that younger dentist, now in his early 50s has just said he’s retiring as he can’t see a way back into it being a sustainable business. A few other dentists in their 60s have done the same in the area.

I wonder how many other businesses will do the same and just bite the bullet of either early retirement or thinking their business isn’t recoverable and giving up.

NHS practices aren’t really sustainable and haven’t been for years. The deliberate reduction in the contracts for units of work has now achieved its goal I fear - privatised dental care.

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5 hours ago, gingerjon said:

There must be some massive regional variations in this. I know that @Robin Evans has been saying it's close to normal where he is but, honestly, it's all very quiet around here.

I suspect in the London commuter belt there are a lot more people with jobs that can be done from home. 


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4 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

How much are you guys paying for a liter of gas over there?

Petrol is currently about £1.08 per litre

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2 minutes ago, Derwent said:

I suspect in the London commuter belt there are a lot more people with jobs that can be done from home. 

That’s a fair point but Hastings doesn’t have a huge number of London commuters. Some but it’s too far out to be a proper dormitory town.


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Just now, Derwent said:

Petrol is currently about £1.08 per litre

MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!  That would be $1.90 Canadian.....we are currently paying 72 cents.

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12 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

How much are you guys paying for a liter of gas over there?

And as for heating oil, in theory, if I had enough storage space, I could heat my house and have on-demand hot water for a year for less than £350. It's bonkers. In the last 12 months it has fallen from 60p a litre to 16p a litre. 

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Just now, Kayakman said:

MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!  That would be $1.90 Canadian.....we are currently paying 72 cents.

You have to understand that it is impossible for petrol to be less than £0.70 per litre over here due to fuel duty and VAT. Fuel duty is fixed at 57.95p per litre and then VAT on top at 20%. So even if it was being given away free we would still have to pay 70p for it.


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Just now, Derwent said:

You have to understand that it is impossible for petrol to be less than £0.70 per litre over here due to fuel duty and VAT. Fuel duty is fixed at 57.95p per litre and then VAT on top at 20%. So even if it was being given away free we would still have to pay 70p for it.

WOW!   I thought you guys pumped out your own stuff from the North Sea?

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2 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

WOW!   I thought you guys pumped out your own stuff from the North Sea?

We do, but we are yet to find a way to refine the tax out of it.

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8 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!  That would be $1.90 Canadian.....we are currently paying 72 cents.

I remember last time I was in BC the locals really kicking off about fuel prices. The look of horror when i told them what uk prices were

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Just now, Robin Evans said:

I remember last time I was in BC the locals really kicking off about fuel prices. The look of horror when i told them what uk prices were

Remember they are known for their whining on the West Coast...B.C. and Alberta are the spoiled children of our Confederation.

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31 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

How much are you guys paying for a liter of gas over there?

I can't answer that I'm afraid as I don't have a car!  But I'm sure someone else will let you know.  In theory a litre of petrol should be dirt cheap at the moment but I'm talking about Britain and most of our petrol cost is taxation.

ETA: someone already answered it!  Note to self: I should read to the end of the thread before replying.

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Well, I have just ordered a Covid home testing kit.  At least I hope I have.  It seemed incredibly quick and easy and I just can't believe a government website is that quick and easy!  Tonight I feel unwell.  It may be that I am over-tired (I don't know about anyone else but my ability to sleep is shocking lately) or it may be that the visit to ASDA almost two weeks ago when I was worried about how close people were getting in the store did indeed cause me problems.  

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