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36 minutes ago, meast said:

24,738 at Sheff Wed in the 3rd division.

Seems there's no issues with football crowds going back.

This is it.

I don't expect RL to match those crowds but percentage wise it isn't that good yet. Simply putting it down to covid runs the risk of ignoring the real reason. 

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1 hour ago, meast said:

24,738 at Sheff Wed in the 3rd division.

Seems there's no issues with football crowds going back.

Wigan Athletic get 10,217 at home

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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47 minutes ago, Johnoco said:

This is it.

I don't expect RL to match those crowds but percentage wise it isn't that good yet. Simply putting it down to covid runs the risk of ignoring the real reason. 

I honestly don't think all of the postponed games help one bit in RL. There has been a lack of continuity and a lot of people just seem to have lost interest in the season.

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5 minutes ago, Damien said:

I honestly don't think all of the postponed games help one bit in RL. There has been a lack of continuity and a lot of people just seem to have lost interest in the season.

I'm enjoying the season as a TV sport, but the one time I've tried to go it got cancelled with 24hrs notice meaning we had to cancel travel and babysitter plans at short notice, and the club is now sitting with 125 quid of our money. 

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1 hour ago, Johnoco said:

This is it.

I don't expect RL to match those crowds but percentage wise it isn't that good yet. Simply putting it down to covid runs the risk of ignoring the real reason. 

Indeed, and i fear that the clubs might take an action at the end of the season that will drive even more fans away from the game.

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I was given a free ticket today to watch Man United v Leeds, (my brother and his mates are season ticket holders) but my bro was given a freebie. You’d have thought that it would’ve been a sell out with Man Utd having a billion fan’s and Leeds having three billion fan’s (which a billion were outside before & during the game) but it wasn’t a sell out. I was surprised that there were empty seats.
Would i go again if i was offered another freebie probably not, especially against Leeds they are dreadful. The game was over after 64mins, the atmosphere was great at times but there was stages when it was so quite you could hear someone fart(that was a real wwi gas attack whoever dropped it). 
I don’t know why it wasn’t a sell out but perhaps Covid has even affected football fan’s who either are wary about going, or just haven’t got the cash anymore to watch the Premier League. 

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7 minutes ago, Josef K said:

I was given a free ticket today to watch Man United v Leeds, (my brother and his mates are season ticket holders) but my bro was given a freebie. You’d have thought that it would’ve been a sell out with Man Utd having a billion fan’s and Leeds having three billion fan’s (which a billion were outside before & during the game) but it wasn’t a sell out. I was surprised that there were empty seats.
Would i go again if i was offered another freebie probably not, especially against Leeds they are dreadful. The game was over after 64mins, the atmosphere was great at times but there was stages when it was so quite you could hear someone fart(that was a real wwi gas attack whoever dropped it). 
I don’t know why it wasn’t a sell out but perhaps Covid has even affected football fan’s who either are wary about going, or just haven’t got the cash anymore to watch the Premier League. 

72,700 in a ground that holds 74,500 and would have at least a thousand seats to crowd segregation.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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1 hour ago, Damien said:

I honestly don't think all of the postponed games help one bit in RL. There has been a lack of continuity and a lot of people just seem to have lost interest in the season.

I appreciate that and we'll have to see how it pans out. My fear though is that clubs will simply sit back and expect fans to return. 

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The attendance thing is totally a RL problem, i have just about got a ticket for the next Kent CCC match with the attendance reduced to 4000.

We have a problem and it needs addressing even my Step 5 non league football club attendances have nearly doubled.

London Broncos down to 250 says it all.

SL and the entire game needs a revamp NOW.

Paul

 

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1 hour ago, Josef K said:

I was given a free ticket today to watch Man United v Leeds, (my brother and his mates are season ticket holders) but my bro was given a freebie. You’d have thought that it would’ve been a sell out with Man Utd having a billion fan’s and Leeds having three billion fan’s (which a billion were outside before & during the game) but it wasn’t a sell out. I was surprised that there were empty seats.
Would i go again if i was offered another freebie probably not, especially against Leeds they are dreadful. The game was over after 64mins, the atmosphere was great at times but there was stages when it was so quite you could hear someone fart(that was a real wwi gas attack whoever dropped it). 
I don’t know why it wasn’t a sell out but perhaps Covid has even affected football fan’s who either are wary about going, or just haven’t got the cash anymore to watch the Premier League. 

Lack of tourists.  Lots of clubs priced out fans safe in the knowledge that chinese or other foreign tourists would buy them up.  

So plenty of Man Utd fans have never been to a game or afforded one.  If you look at the age range of season ticket holders at prem clubs its well into the 40's and ageing.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

Lack of tourists.  Lots of clubs priced out fans safe in the knowledge that chinese or other foreign tourists would buy them up.  

So plenty of Man Utd fans have never been to a game or afforded one.  If you look at the age range of season ticket holders at prem clubs its well into the 40's and ageing.  

 

 

Lack of tourists would definitely be a factor. When I’m at Anfield I invariably have a non scouser (and often non English) sitting next to me, myself included. Travel will have been impacted. It still seems quite surreal to have so many thousands packed in stadiums given we are still in a pandemic. While watching the Man United game on Match of the Day I was wondering what Aussies make of this.

Regarding the season ticket comment, It’s ridiculously hard to get one due to the waiting list. Very few give them up so the vast majority grow old with them.

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2 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

The attendance thing is totally a RL problem, i have just about got a ticket for the next Kent CCC match with the attendance reduced to 4000.

We have a problem and it needs addressing even my Step 5 non league football club attendances have nearly doubled.

London Broncos down to 250 says it all.

SL and the entire game needs a revamp NOW.

Paul

 

I think everyone thinks the game needs a revamp but how can that be done in RL ?. 

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1 hour ago, Josef K said:

I think everyone thinks the game needs a revamp but how can that be done in RL ?. 

I have been watching the new racing league on Sky. They have really encouraged younger supporters and attracted good attendances.

The innovations have encouraged more female involvement, using women commentators and analysists. 

There is also music, a dj for in between races, and stalls. Different and exotic food outlets. 

Teams are new but not geographically based. They make good use of team colours, they give out hats and girls can have their nails painted in their favourite team. 

The aim is to attract a new audience to the 6 meetings, held around the UK, and then encourage them to attend their local tracks. 

There is also an aim to encourage people with different ethnicities to attend. So at one event there will be a Carribean evening for example, with authentic West Indian food and music. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Josef K said:

No i wasn’t on about the segregation. 

Either way, the attendance was 72,700 in a ground that holds a maximum of 74,500.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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12 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

The attendance thing is totally a RL problem, i have just about got a ticket for the next Kent CCC match with the attendance reduced to 4000.

We have a problem and it needs addressing even my Step 5 non league football club attendances have nearly doubled.

London Broncos down to 250 says it all.

SL and the entire game needs a revamp NOW.

Paul

 

There's absolutely no point whatsoever including London Broncos in this conversation, their attendances have nothing to do with covid or any wider issues in the sport. That horse is dead, it's just waiting for someone to find the bolt gun.

"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."

Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

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6 minutes ago, nadera78 said:

There's absolutely no point whatsoever including London Broncos in this conversation, their attendances have nothing to do with covid or any wider issues in the sport. That horse is dead, it's just waiting for someone to find the bolt gun.

You say that but we haven't worn a blue and yellow kit in front of some disinterested AFCW fans yet.

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26 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

You say that but we haven't worn a blue and yellow kit in front of some disinterested AFCW fans yet.

I was going to laugh at this comment, but it's too sad to do that. And yet I don't feel a great sadness, I think I'm passed that point. A bit angry, perhaps, but even then...

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"Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart."

Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959

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