Attendances (Multiple Merged Threads)

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Jughead said:

Surprising as that’s not usually the way but fair play. 

Was the brewery next door open?

Good news for all concerned. If it pays the rent, then all good.

 

Amazed anyone who went yesterday thought is was a failure. At Ealing we could not get 400 people. There was no local interest.

[crashmon]

Its too early to say if it was a success or failure.  It was a good start, but all depends on how they leverage that into following games.

Wimbledon did their bit, and provided the fans. Now its up to the broncos to retain them.  2.1K in the opening game will soon be forgotten if in September the gates are below 1K.

Time will tell. Its a positive start from an attendance perspective, but not from a team performance perspective.

[Eddie]

5 minutes ago, Leonard said:

 

Amazed anyone who went yesterday thought is was a failure. At Ealing we could not get 400 people. There was no local interest.

This is the TRL forum mate, they could have filled Wembley and people would be saying it was a disaster. 

[Kayakman]

21 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

I think there may need to be continued incentives for Wimbledon fans to show up, either reduced ticket prices or memberships, or perhaps some sort of 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 deal (perhaps in July for the latter - for all, not just Dons fans).

Going forward, I'd like to see:

More input from the MC, who was good but underused - especially as he's some sort of pro at it. Even if it's just birthday announcements, it all adds to a sense of belonging.

Better use of the PA - more 'enlivening' music pre-match, try music etc.  Needs a bit more energy.

Rugby-themed half-time pitch entertainment like the crossbar challenge. No need before the game as most people were - and will be - in the bars/pub until at least 2.45.

The fanzone was underutilised - perfectly understandable in January but that'll need sorting for the warmer months (late spring/summer when there's no football/RU is key to the whole thing in my view). Would be criminal to waste it by not having live bands or a DJ in summer.

Funny.  When Toronto used to do theses things they were all wrong (according to you) but now that London is doing it it is all great (according to you).....Phew, well I guess there are other issues at play.

[gingerjon]

3 minutes ago, crashmon said:

Its too early to say if it was a success or failure.  It was a good start, but all depends on how they leverage that into following games.

Exactly this. It's a good start - with some issues that really need sorting.

And there is still the bonkers off-field reality that London are now paying three other sports teams rent.

[gingerjon]

Just now, Kayakman said:

Funny.  When Toronto used to do theses things they were all wrong (according to you) but now that London is doing it it is all great (according to you).....Phew, well I guess there are other issues at play.

Toronto weren't paying his money troubled soccer club £200,000 a year.

[Yakstorm]

It's a solid start... as other's have pointed out, it is more than London's average last time they were in Super League and it's more than the club has drawn in a number of years when unfortunately they had better teams on the pitch.

Whitehaven and York will be truer tests, whilst the Bradford match could be a good opportunity for the club if the Broncos have a few wins to their name and Bulls fans travel in numbers.

[Man of Kent]

7 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

Funny.  When Toronto used to do theses things they were all wrong (according to you) but now that London is doing it it is all great (according to you).....Phew, well I guess there are other issues at play.

The whole thing was madness, chief, non-financed by a lying racist. We move on.

[crashmon]

In the real world, I'm a software delivery manager (not a good salesman however). Having a good kick off is key to the project, but what drives success is the work and effort after the kick-off up to the eventual go-live.

Having a good kick-off, but then not driving it forward soon loses all momentum from the kick-off and you soon start to run into problems and delays.

Wimbledon have helped sell this, but its now when the hard work starts. Lets see what now happens in terms of marketing and reach out for the whitehaven game, everybody in attendance yesterday should now be being contacted with offers for Whitehaven (bring a friend for half-price or something, if you bring 2 friends you get in free).

But this being London, they will probably think they have done the job, and the marketing and reach out will stop.

[Eddie]

5 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

The whole thing was madness, chief, non-financed by a lying racist. We move on.

It was great tbf, livened this forum up for starters. 

[Man of Kent]

1 minute ago, crashmon said:

In the real world, I'm a software delivery manager (not a good salesman however). Having a good kick off is key to the project, but what drives success is the work and effort after the kick-off up to the eventual go-live.

Having a good kick-off, but then not driving it forward soon loses all momentum from the kick-off and you soon start to run into problems and delays.

Wimbledon have helped sell this, but its now when the hard work starts. Lets see what now happens in terms of marketing and reach out for the whitehaven game, everybody in attendance yesterday should now be being contacted with offers for Whitehaven (bring a friend for half-price or something, if you bring 2 friends you get in free).

But this being London, they will probably think they have done the job, and the marketing and reach out will stop.

I know you're itching to stick the boot in the Broncos management, but just as the move can't be called a success after the Widnes game, it can't be deemed a failure after Whitehaven either.

I would expect a natural drop-off for the next game. The key will be in the summer months. If there's three-digit crowds in July then I will be putting the boot in too!

[Kayakman]

13 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

The whole thing was madness, chief, non-financed by a lying racist. We move on.

Why are you deflecting from answering the honest question with an honest answer?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

I know you're itching to stick the boot in the Broncos management, but just as the move can't be called a success after the Widnes game, it can't be deemed a failure after Whitehaven either.

I would expect a natural drop-off for the next game. The key will be in the summer months. If there's three-digit crowds in July then I will be putting the boot in too!

800 at AFC Wimbledon would still be better than 500 at Ealing. It'd just a better ground for the game and experience.

That much is now obvious.

[crashmon]

I wont be putting in the boot after whitehaven its too early. The Thunder game in May is when I'll take a view. What I was saying is that the club have to focus on every game like they focussed on the Widnes game at least up to the break in May / June when we have all those away games in a row.

They can't treat Widnes like a one-off. They need to rinse and repeat what they did for Widnes for every game, same effort, same outreach, same marketing, same offers, while fixing the gaps in the match day experience (like fanzone, kids activites etc). Its whether they will do this in the coming days or sit back and think Job done, which will be key

 

[crashmon]

Having a full time squad competing to get into super leage vs a part time squad of relegation or at best lower mid table strugglers would be a better match day experience regardless of where they are playing in my view.

Without onfield success this club will die, regardless of where they are playing. Success means playing in SuperLeage

[Man of Kent]

2 minutes ago, Kayakman said:

Why are you deflecting from answering the honest question with an honest answer?

Toronto didn't invent fanzones, chief. The fanzone at Wimbledon is like a mini BoxPark, which have been around in London for a long time now.

It's not in sight of the pitch in any case. Quite different from the beer garden at Lamport.

[ATLANTISMAN]

4 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Toronto didn't invent fanzones, chief. The fanzone at Wimbledon is like a mini BoxPark, which have been around in London for a long time now.

It's not in sight of the pitch in any case. Quite different from the beer garden at Lamport.

Pitchside beer gardens are very popular at the CFL (Most stadiums are only 2/3 sided) so its easy to have behind the sticks.( I am certain this is where the Wolfpack got the idea from) 

 

Paul

[Archie Gordon]

6 minutes ago, Leonard said:

800 at AFC Wimbledon would still be better than 500 at Ealing. It'd just a better ground for the game and experience.

That much is now obvious.

I don't fully follow this.

You could also say 800 at Ealing would be better than 500 at Wimbledon.

There are lots of moving parts on right-hand side of the attendance equation. But Broncos average home attendance so far in 2022 is 2182 - long may that number hold up.

 

 

[crashmon]

16 minutes ago, crashmon said:

I wont be putting in the boot after whitehaven its too early. The Thunder game in May is when I'll take a view. What I was saying is that the club have to focus on every game like they focussed on the Widnes game at least up to the break in May / June when we have all those away games in a row.

They can't treat Widnes like a one-off. They need to rinse and repeat what they did for Widnes for every game, same effort, same outreach, same marketing, same offers, while fixing the gaps in the match day experience (like fanzone, kids activites etc). Its whether they will do this in the coming days or sit back and think Job done, which will be key

 

However if they lose to Whitehaven I might have a few choice words to say about the product on the pitch, but the product off the pitch as I said, its a good start, I just hope they use it as a springboard instead of thinking Job done

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

I don't fully follow this.

You could also say 800 at Ealing would be better than 500 at Wimbledon.

There are lots of moving parts on right-hand side of the attendance equation. But Broncos average home attendance so far in 2022 is 2182 - long may that number hold up.

 

 

I prefer playing somewhere not in the back end of london and where i used to stand looking over the pitchside hoardings because the seats were rubbish.

Would you expect Liverpool to play in a park?

Ealing didn't get 800 either - or very rarely at all. So we have the factual counterpoint in the argument.

[The Rocket]

1 hour ago, Man of Kent said:

I think there may need to be continued incentives for Wimbledon fans to show up, either reduced ticket prices or memberships, or perhaps some sort of 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 deal (perhaps in July for the latter - for all, not just Dons fans).

Going forward, I'd like to see:

More input from the MC, who was good but underused - especially as he's some sort of pro at it. Even if it's just birthday announcements, it all adds to a sense of belonging.

Better use of the PA - more 'enlivening' music pre-match, try music etc.  Needs a bit more energy.

Rugby-themed half-time pitch entertainment like the crossbar challenge. No need before the game as most people were - and will be - in the bars/pub until at least 2.45.

The fanzone was underutilised - perfectly understandable in January but that'll need sorting for the warmer months (late spring/summer when there's no football/RU is key to the whole thing in my view). Would be criminal to waste it by not having live bands or a DJ in summer.

Do you think doing whatever it takes to get those away fans turning up might be another priority.

You live there so you`ll have to tell me but I thought one stand full of noisy northerners might be just the thing that dilletante London League fans might just find appealing. I know everyone loves it over here at the cricket with the touring Barmy Army, in fact they can`t get the bloody cameras off them half the time.

Anyway just thought if the Broncos could strike some sort of deal for visiting fans and work with their clubs it could go along way to enhancing the game day experience.

 

[binosh]

One Whitehaven fan was overheard saying "if this game was still on the Saturday we would have brought 1500 fans"

That wedding sure did cost Leigh.

[Man of Kent]

3 minutes ago, The Rocket said:

Do you think doing whatever it takes to get those away fans turning up might be another priority.

You live there so you`ll have to tell me but I thought one stand full of noisy northerners might be just the thing that dilletante London League fans might just find appealing. I know everyone loves it over here at the cricket with the touring Barmy Army, in fact they can`t get the bloody cameras off them half the time.

Anyway just thought if the Broncos could strike some sort of deal for visiting fans and work with their clubs it could go along way to enhancing the game day experience.

 

The away fans get the whole of the safe standing terrace (rail seating) to themselves, so that's something of an attraction. Widnes brought 400 and were noisy (the acoustics help).

I'm sure Bradford, Leigh, Halifax and Featherstone will bring good numbers too. It certainly adds to the occasion.

[Archie Gordon]

28 minutes ago, Leonard said:

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Ealing didn't get 800 either - or very rarely at all. So we have the factual counterpoint in the argument.

Apart from those many times it did.

[westlondonfan]

51 minutes ago, Leonard said:

800 at AFC Wimbledon would still be better than 500 at Ealing. It'd just a better ground for the game and experience.

That much is now obvious.

If you mean financially, that is not necessarily the case, if half the spectators paid only paid £1 or £5 at Wimbledon. This was probably the case yesterday if there were 400 Widnes fans present.