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2 hours ago, The Future is League said:

The same applies as who is going to pay expenses to visiting teams?

Who is going to pay the expenses of their own players if they are admitted into League 1, as all of them will coming from the North of England

This is all theoretical, as Edinburgh haven’t declared an intention in joining L1 any time soon, but maybe they would, like Cornwall are, or maybe they’d convert Scottish Yawnion players like WWR. Either way that would fulfil their objective. 

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13 hours ago, Eddie said:

I’m certain you knew what I meant chief. 

Sure. My point is that I'm not convinced that they need to see it live.

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On 05/08/2022 at 22:48, JM2010 said:

I agree but how many other than Newcastle are actually doing anything other than paying for players from the heartlands to play for them without adding any community clubs to their area?

If it's not done right then all that happens is Scottish RL lose a community club in Edinburgh and all their money gets spent on players from northern England 

skolars. nearly all their players came through theirs or the London RL system

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15 hours ago, IM2 said:

skolars. nearly all their players came through theirs or the London RL system

That's good to hear. How active are the Skolars in the community? Do they get into schools etc?

Would like to see Skolars and Broncos working together to help develop RL in London.

Would also like SL and the RFL use some money specifically for development but I don't think clubs would allow any TV money to be diverted from them for this kind of thing

 

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3 hours ago, Eddie said:

It helps, people from Edinburgh are more likely to be interested in Edinburgh playing than Wakefield v Castleford.  

Maybe. But it still wouldn't persuade me to invest/donate my money to such a project.

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5 hours ago, The Future is League said:

They would be even more interested if their players were from Edinburgh as well.

If they were winning, perhaps.

But here's the arithmetic of a development club.  They need to be in a good stadium, with a competitive team and put a lot of work into grass roots.  Unfortunately, nobody can afford all that luxury.   Which is why the game fails to spread.

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13 hours ago, Jughead said:

So, err…has anyone “bought” a stake in the Eagles? 

Not from here, it seems.

They need to claim to be joining some made-up competition, get some shirts that will never be worn in a competitive match available in an online shop, and then go on Chasing Roos.

Honestly, these guys are complete amateurs.

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On 09/08/2022 at 12:33, The Future is League said:

They would be even more interested if their players were from Edinburgh as well.

Do you think Hearts or Hibs fans care where their players are from, as long as they’re winning? 

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On 10/08/2022 at 07:34, gingerjon said:

Not from here, it seems.

They need to claim to be joining some made-up competition, get some shirts that will never be worn in a competitive match available in an online shop, and then go on Chasing Roos.

Honestly, these guys are complete amateurs.

I think that’s harsh (while of course they are amateurs, but assuming you didn’t mean it in that context) they are a strong club in an area devoid of RL who are trying to progress and are doing well in the NE league.
 

I do think this ownership scheme is bizarre but if they can get some money off it that helps them out then good luck to them. What would really be good is if one of the English pro clubs linked up with them, but obviously that costs money that few clubs have.

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I think this idea is a bit naive and as someone else said, isn't really an ownership/share purchase scheme.

Having said that, I do think the idea has merit. I would launch it as a charitable membership scheme, where the members sign a standing order, to pay the club say £2 per week. This is a small amount of money but amounts to £104 per year for every member they recruit.

Once the standing order is signed, most people would forget about it.

You could, as some kind of payback, have a monthly draw where 25% of the monies goes back to the winning member as prize money.

This idea will give the members a monthly reminder that they are supporting a very worthy cause and with a little work could amount to a sizeable chunk of change. A hundred members yields around 10 grand a year (less the prize money).

Ten thousand pounds would go a long way, towards funding an amateur clubs expenses. 

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What's also naive is to have random strangers, possibly living hundreds if miles away, a "say", whatever that might be, in the running of the club.

The link in the OP has gone now so it looks like they've had second thoughts.

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On 06/08/2022 at 09:31, Anita Bath said:

Should have? Why?

 

Simply stating a fact.

 

I have no wish to own Rochdale, Edinburgh or any other club.

Ok just stuck to sniping at others then !

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Yeah, there’s definitely different ways of income generation that isn’t “own a share of the club”, if this is what this is all about. Lotteries are a pretty standard one but there’s different ways they could generate a bit of income given the travelling they do as a club.

I wouldn’t be keen on “buying a stake” in a club, if I’m honest. Luckily, there’s not many of them in rugby league but I see the dodgy owners in football, with no ties to a community and no understanding of local feeling or emotion towards a club and I feel that would be a similar case if I bought a share, no matter how irrelevant that ownership was, in a random club in either sport. A mate of mine “owns” a football club in Spain, Northern Ireland and one in Dorset despite being from Lancashire. I’m not sure what he gets or what he contributes to any of them. 

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3 minutes ago, Jughead said:

Yeah, there’s definitely different ways of income generation that isn’t “own a share of the club”, if this is what this is all about. Lotteries are a pretty standard one but there’s different ways they could generate a bit of income given the travelling they do as a club.

I wouldn’t be keen on “buying a stake” in a club, if I’m honest. Luckily, there’s not many of them in rugby league but I see the dodgy owners in football, with no ties to a community and no understanding of local feeling or emotion towards a club and I feel that would be a similar case if I bought a share, no matter how irrelevant that ownership was, in a random club in either sport. A mate of mine “owns” a football club in Spain, Northern Ireland and one in Dorset despite being from Lancashire. I’m not sure what he gets or what he contributes to any of them. 

There are good and bad examples of fan ownership in football.

Our very own @Man of Kentis an 'owner' of AFC Wimbledon, I believe? (Or, at least, has the inside knowledge from people who are).

I put up the Lewes FC page which was almost identical to the Edinburgh Eagles offer. It seems to be working for them.

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Just now, gingerjon said:

There are good and bad examples of fan ownership in football.

Our very own @Man of Kentis an 'owner' of AFC Wimbledon, I believe? (Or, at least, has the inside knowledge from people who are).

I put up the Lewes FC page which was almost identical to the Edinburgh Eagles offer. It seems to be working for them.

There definitely is good examples of clubs with a decent support base owning their respective clubs. The AFC Wimbledon and FC United of Manchester stories, in many ways, are unbelievable and would be thrown out if you presented their stories as a series to TV documentaries for how unrealistic they are.

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4 minutes ago, Jughead said:

There definitely is good examples of clubs with a decent support base owning their respective clubs. The AFC Wimbledon and FC United of Manchester stories, in many ways, are unbelievable and would be thrown out if you presented their stories as a series to TV documentaries for how unrealistic they are.

It's interesting going back and looking over some of them. FCUM has not been all plain sailing (or, at least, whoever edits their wiki page is keen to point out the issues).

I think what Edinburgh were/are trying to do is a long, long way from the more farcical elements of MyFootballClub and things like that.

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2 hours ago, gingerjon said:

There are good and bad examples of fan ownership in football.

Our very own @Man of Kentis an 'owner' of AFC Wimbledon, I believe? (Or, at least, has the inside knowledge from people who are).

I put up the Lewes FC page which was almost identical to the Edinburgh Eagles offer. It seems to be working for them.

Yes. I pay a £25 annual fee to be a member of the Dons Trust, which is the c.75% owner of AFC Wimbledon. There are around 4500 members. 

For this I have a vote in AGMs, SGMs, EGMs etc and on what we call Restricted Actions (in relation to the DT’s constitution), the last one for which was to sell Kingsmeadow to Chelsea. 

Some might see AFC Wimbledon as a beacon for socialism but in reality it’s been mostly run by accountant types and there’s a critical mass of wealthy fans to make it work. 

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