David Shepherd Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: Are they happy if you regularly cancel the block booking at short notice? Depends on your relationship with the airline. But if we're talking regular guaranteed bookings for the normal season games, no issue at all because the block can be purchased well in advance. Just supply the squad and staff names at the time the squad is announced. Play off games are a little more challenging, because the requirements aren't known until a week before. You'd probably need to make the block booking on a cancellable fare with a "legacy" carrier like BA or Air France. The base fare will be more expensive, but still cheaper than a private charter. I'd still guess that a weekend lease on a small jet for the season would be the most cost effective solution. All the RFL need is a good corporate travel agent. Edited September 8, 2022 by David Shepherd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave T said: Am I right in saying that SL playoffs are central (SLE) events? I thought the income from these games was pooled. If so, surely we manage this through pooling costs and income for the whole playoff series? Because this shouldn't even be a public discussion in playoff week, and we certainly shouldn't have the farcical situation where it is openly discussed that Salford threw a game so that they wouldn't have to pay to go to France. As I put , it seemed strange to me to see a published ' cost ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Good morning fellow plane spotters. Leeds today are flying on UR-PSL, a 737-900 (technically a 737-94X Extended Range being originally built to the order of Sky Airlines in Turkey in 2009). As you'll have spotted the UR in the reg indicates a Ukrainian plane and yes this is one of the few active planes of Ukraine International Airlines and has been chartered out for use mostly across Eastern Europe this summer. It arrived at LBA this morning from Katowice in Poland and left for Perpignan at 1037 UK time. The plane is a lot larger than Leeds usually use (they've been on a 50 seat Air Nostrum CRJ-200ER for earlier games). My mole on board tells me the crew are all Ukrainian and... the flight is full! Leeds team and management plus the UK based match officials, the Sky team including Jenna and Terry and then balanced out by Leeds fans. Now this plane can carry 200+ people. Knock off say 40 max for Leeds staff and other officials and that's at least 160 paying. 160 x £800 = £128,000. Even allowing for deducting air passenger duty or similar it stacks up well against that apparently very upsetting cost of £100k... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, M j M said: Good morning fellow plane spotters. Leeds today are flying on UR-PSL, a 737-900 (technically a 737-94X Extended Range being originally built to the order of Sky Airlines in Turkey in 2009). As you'll have spotted the UR in the reg indicates a Ukrainian plane and yes this is one of the few active planes of Ukraine International Airlines and has been chartered out for use mostly across Eastern Europe this summer. It arrived at LBA this morning from Katowice in Poland and left for Perpignan at 1037 UK time. The plane is a lot larger than Leeds usually use (they've been on a 50 seat Air Nostrum CRJ-200ER for earlier games). My mole on board tells me the crew are all Ukrainian and... the flight is full! Leeds team and management plus the UK based match officials, the Sky team including Jenna and Terry and then balanced out by Leeds fans. Now this plane can carry 200+ people. Knock off say 40 max for Leeds staff and other officials and that's at least 160 paying. 160 x £800 = £128,000. Even allowing for deducting air passenger duty or similar it stacks up well against that apparently very upsetting cost of £100k... So, just to ensure complete and total impartiality, the match officials and commentators are travelling on a privately chartered Leeds flight? 3 4 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz39 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gingerjon said: So, just to ensure complete and total impartiality, the match officials and commentators are travelling on a privately chartered Leeds flight? Have they taken them hostage in defiance to the MRP's apparent hatred toward their club? At least if they lose they can blame the officials for being too partial. So it's true, some clubs DO pay the officials Hope M.Guasch doesn't find out, it could be carnage if they lose ! Edited September 9, 2022 by daz39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, gingerjon said: So, just to ensure complete and total impartiality, the match officials and commentators are travelling on a privately chartered Leeds flight? Yes it's pretty standard practice when a club charters a plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, M j M said: Yes it's pretty standard practice when a club charters a plane. I know. Just making a little light amusement out of it. But does show again that these charters are a lot more than just bunging the players and their bags on a flight. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, daz39 said: Have they taken them hostage in defiance to the MRP's apparent hatred toward their club? The MRP and the referees are not the same and certainly don't have the same views on some recent incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, gingerjon said: So, just to ensure complete and total impartiality, the match officials and commentators are travelling on a privately chartered Leeds flight? During the dreaded ' ash cloud from Iceland ' weeks Leigh had to travel by coach to France to fulfill a Challenge Cup match , the locals were not happy to see the match officials disembarking from the coach after 20 odd hours of travel with the away team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLANTISMAN Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, daz39 said: Have they taken them hostage in defiance to the MRP's apparent hatred toward their club? At least if they lose they can blame the officials for being too partial. So it's true, some clubs DO pay the officials Hope M.Guasch doesn't find out, it could be carnage if they lose ! I will see Bernard in around 3 hours he will be ready with the gloves on LOL:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Looks like anyone who is anyone in Rugby League is on that flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, M j M said: Looks like anyone who is anyone in Rugby League is on that flight. I hope he paid £800 and didn't get a freebie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Damien said: I hope he paid £800 and didn't get a freebie. Presumably Reach Plc paid, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Presumably Reach Plc paid, no? Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, Damien said: Probably Tbf I don't really see the issue of Leeds bringing him along anyway, and any other journos from the YEP etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Tbf I don't really see the issue of Leeds bringing him along anyway, and any other journos from the YEP etc. It was just a joke considering the thread.... I never said there was an issue, it's quite normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 hours ago, GUBRATS said: During the dreaded ' ash cloud from Iceland ' weeks Leigh had to travel by coach to France to fulfill a Challenge Cup match , the locals were not happy to see the match officials disembarking from the coach after 20 odd hours of travel with the away team I doubt the officials were that happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bobbruce said: I doubt the officials were that happy. I think we had an away ' following ' of 3 , one of them Steve O did the whole planes,trains and automobiles bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: I think we had an away ' following ' of 3 , one of them Steve O did the whole planes,trains and automobiles bit Did the ref then do “Three coins in a fountain” and nobody else joined in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Did the ref then do “Three coins in a fountain” and nobody else joined in. Not got the foggiest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 7 hours ago, gingerjon said: So, just to ensure complete and total impartiality, the match officials and commentators are travelling on a privately chartered Leeds flight? Presumably Gary H will make a decision around 11pm local time as to whether the match officials are coming back on the same plane. 5 I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, bobbruce said: Did the ref then do “Three coins in a fountain” and nobody else joined in. Id put the video up of the bus trip but it would take me about 3 years to learn how to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 If you're comfortably-off, it's probably worth paying £800 not to watch Leeds. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 No football, no rugby union, no racing. Looking forward to double-page spreads on this game in all this week's Sunday papers. Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Wolford6 said: No football, no rugby union, no racing. Looking forward to double-page spreads on this game in all this week's Sunday papers. Rugby union is being played, it’s just tonight’s games that aren’t happening. Think racing is back on Sunday. Of course the Sunday papers won’t be reporting any sport at all as a mark of respect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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