DI Keith Fowler Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, JohnM said: Get a decent used Skoda Superb Estate diesel. You can get one within 24 hours. I imagine I can get a lot of things I don't want fairly quickly. 1 I was born to run a club like this. Number 1, I do not spook easily, and those who think I do, are wasting their time, with their surprise attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Getting reminded of the advantages and disadvantages of electric in cold temperatures this week. Downside is a sizeable drop off in range (not that it's an issue for me), barely surprising given batteries don't like cold and also more heating required. Plus side is I've not used de-icer once in the last 2 years, as I can remotely pre heat the car, either on a routine timer or adhoc from my phone. Toasty warm and ready to go when I get in, and if done whilst plugged in it doesn't impact range. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 The soon-to-be-released Fisker Ocean looks pretty good…. https://www.fiskerinc.com/en-gb/ocean I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Derwent said: The soon-to-be-released Fisker Ocean looks pretty good…. https://www.fiskerinc.com/en-gb/ocean The more bi-directional charging options that come on to the market, the better. That could be a game changer for electricity demand, allowing for charging the car at times of low demand and feeding back into domestic supplies when required. If more domestic solar panels are encouraged, this could mean charge during the day, and use your car to run your house after dark. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 13/11/2022 at 08:02, RayCee said: Toyota, Hyundai and some other manufacturers are still believing in HFC cars but are having to wait until they kick off. Toyota isn't a great believer in full electric cars but has recently conceded that for the time being the market is going electric (with government incentives) and committing resources to do more in that area. My daughter is working on a project at the Uni. of N.S.W. funded by Holcim, the Swiss multinational, on developing a hydrogen powered system for their international fleet of cement trucks. According to her they are not interested in electric but see hydrogen as the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbrian Fanatic Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 50 minutes ago, The Rocket said: My daughter is working on a project at the Uni. of N.S.W. funded by Holcim, the Swiss multinational, on developing a hydrogen powered system for their international fleet of cement trucks. According to her they are not interested in electric but see hydrogen as the future. I think JCB are doing something similar. As I understand it the power required for trucks/heavy plant are so big that they are not viable 100% League 0% Union Just because I don't know doesn't mean I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 16/11/2022 at 07:25, GUBRATS said: Spot on , IMO road tax should be put on fuel , you might have somebody who needs a large engined powerful vehicle for towing , but only do 10/20 miles a week , and somebody else doing 500 miles a week , who is using the roads ? As I've put earlier , I've just bought my final ' folly ' vehicle , when retirement comes in a few years for myself I'll not be able to afford what I now have , but I doubt I'll be able to afford an electric vehicle either Time to but a horse it would seem ? Road tax doesn't pay for the roads in told, that's a different pot It's charged due to emissions, hence cyclists not having to pay. Issue with more tax on fuel is working class who have to travel for work, you make it more expensive whilst rich people with huge cars get then cheaper running costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, David Dockhouse Host said: Road tax doesn't pay for the roads in told, that's a different pot It's charged due to emissions, hence cyclists not having to pay. Issue with more tax on fuel is working class who have to travel for work, you make it more expensive whilst rich people with huge cars get then cheaper running costs Then why is it called ' ROAD TAX ' ? Which vehicle makes more emissions , a large engined car doing 2,000 miles a year ? , Or a smaller engined car doing 20,000 a year ? Cyclists have never had to pay tax , nothing to do with emissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, David Dockhouse Host said: Road tax doesn't pay for the roads in told, that's a different pot It's charged due to emissions, hence cyclists not having to pay. Issue with more tax on fuel is working class who have to travel for work, you make it more expensive whilst rich people with huge cars get then cheaper running costs It's really a vehicle tax and not a road tax. As the tax ends up at the Exchequer, in the same place as most other taxes, and budgets then get allocated back to the Department for Transport and local councils there isn't really a separate pot just for roads or pretty much anything else. It's just what is allocated from the Exchequer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dockhouse Host Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Then why is it called ' ROAD TAX ' ? Which vehicle makes more emissions , a large engined car doing 2,000 miles a year ? , Or a smaller engined car doing 20,000 a year ? Cyclists have never had to pay tax , nothing to do with emissions It's not called road tax Cyclist haven't your correct but often people ask why, emissions is another reason why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derwent Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Then why is it called ' ROAD TAX ' ? Which vehicle makes more emissions , a large engined car doing 2,000 miles a year ? , Or a smaller engined car doing 20,000 a year ? Cyclists have never had to pay tax , nothing to do with emissions It's not called road tax, it is Vehicle Excise Duty. 1 I’m not prejudiced, I hate everybody equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 51 minutes ago, Derwent said: It's not called road tax, it is Vehicle Excise Duty. True And everybody calls it ? Road tax And it used to be essentially the same for every vehicle within certain easily understandable groups Then the opportunity was seen to screw more money out of certain groups under the guise of emmisions , so why not charge AUDI drivers more for driving like morons ? , VW Golf drivers for having annoying exhausts ? , Maybe actually enforce speed limits by limiting the speed of vehicles to ( or as near as matters ) the actual speed limit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: True And everybody calls it ? Road tax Oh God, this reminds me of trying to convince someone on here that the flu jab actually is a vaccine, but he wouldn't have it because "it's called a jab, not a vaccine". 1 5 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby123 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Relative who is partially sighted almost mowed down by one as he walked around a corner. Never heard a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Bobby123 said: Relative who is partially sighted almost mowed down by one as he walked around a corner. Never heard a thing. Wait till they properly hit the second hand market , with the info on the internet on how to turn up the acceleration, 0-60 in 2.5 seconds in silence in a town centre , what could possibly go wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmichaelsays Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 21 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Cyclists have never had to pay tax , nothing to do with emissions Do cyclists not own cars as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 hours ago, whatmichaelsays said: Do cyclists not own cars as well? Relevance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmichaelsays Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Relevance ? An awful lot of cyclists pay whatever you think "road tax" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, whatmichaelsays said: An awful lot of cyclists pay whatever you think "road tax" is. Not for their bikes , they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 19/12/2022 at 18:01, Bobby123 said: Relative who is partially sighted almost mowed down by one as he walked around a corner. Never heard a thing. That's why in 2019 regulations were brought in that meant manufacturers had to install a system to generate noise in new electric vehicles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Damien said: That's why in 2019 regulations were brought in that meant manufacturers had to install a system to generate noise in new electric vehicles. Only at very low speeds , which ends up being a fraction of a second with their acceleration , the workers at the local tip ( recycling centre ) do not like them , they nearly get run over every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Only at very low speeds , which ends up being a fraction of a second with their acceleration , the workers at the local tip ( recycling centre ) do not like them , they nearly get run over every time Its only at low speeds because they are more audible at higher speeds. If it was deemed necessary at higher speeds then the same regulation would apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Damien said: Its only at low speeds because they are more audible at higher speeds. If it was deemed necessary at higher speeds then the same regulation would apply. Just make them slower in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Just make them slower in the first place That's not going to make people hear them any better which was the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Called at Hartshead Moor on the M62 last night around 5.30 , well over half of the chargers were being used , noticed the Tesla's had their own dedicated chargers , they need a lot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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