IMG Grading System (Many Merged Threads)

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1 hour ago, bbfaz said:

Yes, they are.  Nowadays especially.

You must be involved in some shady businesses if you are constantly involved in lawsuits.

[LeeF]

3 hours ago, bbfaz said:

Yes, they are.  Nowadays especially.

No they aren’t. The vast majority don’t get lawsuits served on them

[The Future is League]

Rugby League has a history of dumping things after a short while.

Even though I'm not a fan of the IMG grading system so far, lets cut them some slack and see what happens, but sure ar eggs are eggs we are going backwards as sport in this country.

[bbfaz]

3 hours ago, LeeF said:

No they aren’t. The vast majority don’t get lawsuits served on them

It must be lovely in cloud-cuckoo land.

[LeeF]

5 minutes ago, bbfaz said:

It must be lovely in cloud-cuckoo land.

That is where you are at if you genuinely believe what you have posted. My view is based on actuality and reality

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11 hours ago, LeeF said:

That is where you are at if you genuinely believe what you have posted. My view is based on actuality and reality

Look, for some of us we just spend all week in and out of the court system. 

Clearly you aren't successful enough to understand.

[JohnM]

Legal action wasn't a big thing in my working life. I worked  for 7-ish years at a £2 billion US corporation, 4 1/2 years at a £1 billion US corporation and too many years to mention at  a British civil and military computer system company.

Can't recall any lawsuits, legal actions etc. Our lawyers were primarily involved in validating our tender responses, contract negotiations, setting Ts and C's etc.

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2 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Legal action wasn't a big thing in my working life. I worked  for 7-ish years at a £2 billion US corporation, 4 1/2 years at a £1 billion US corporation and too many years to mention at  a British civil and military computer system company.

Can't recall any lawsuits, legal actions etc. Our lawyers were primarily involved in validating our tender responses, contract negotiations, setting Ts and C's etc.

Clearly you aren't successful enough either.

Didn't you read, the Former President goes through lawsuits all the time, so that is the way business works.

[Martyn Sadler]

On 30/07/2024 at 09:34, JohnM said:

John who? At least we now understand League Express's editorial position on Re-imagining Rugby League.

Do we? Perhaps you can explain it to me.

[JohnM]

It's critical and skeptical and sympathetic to others who criticise it.  

[Martyn Sadler]

34 minutes ago, JohnM said:

It's critical and skeptical and sympathetic to others who criticise it.  

Thanks for your response.

I would agree with the first two points. The third depends on how logical and well expressed their criticism is.

I would also add that I would very much like to see the "re-imagining" succeed.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu once described himself as a "prisoner of hope", which was referred to by former Irish President Mary Robinson on a Radio 4 interview this morning, and I feel the same way about Rugby League. It's the hope that kills you.

[JohnM]

I agree that "It's the hope that kills you"...well almost. What is really annoying, depressing and indeed infuriating it's the cacophony of negativity towards everything about our game. It seems much worse ...louder and more aggressiv... lately.

Of course, critical examination of objectives, goals, plans, tactics, results etc is important. However, it seems to me that much of the criticism of our sport is based on more on dogma than anything 

So far, the International game, expansion, the World Cup, NRL, RFL, BBC, Sky, Las Vegas, IMG, unfairness towards the Championship, neglect of grass roots are occupying the minds of the critics.

It really is getting me down, as you might have realised 

[Lowdesert]

8 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I agree that "It's the hope that kills you"...well almost. What is really annoying, depressing and indeed infuriating it's the cacophony of negativity towards everything about our game. It seems much worse ...louder and more aggressiv... lately.

Of course, critical examination of objectives, goals, plans, tactics, results etc is important. However, it seems to me that much of the criticism of our sport is based on more on dogma than anything 

So far, the International game, expansion, the World Cup, NRL, RFL, BBC, Sky, Las Vegas, IMG, unfairness towards the Championship, neglect of grass roots are occupying the minds of the critics.

It really is getting me down, as you might have realised 

Try to ignore all the negative RL noise John……….and enjoy the advertising.  

[Martyn Sadler]

13 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I agree that "It's the hope that kills you"...well almost. What is really annoying, depressing and indeed infuriating it's the cacophony of negativity towards everything about our game. It seems much worse ...louder and more aggressiv... lately.

Of course, critical examination of objectives, goals, plans, tactics, results etc is important. However, it seems to me that much of the criticism of our sport is based on more on dogma than anything 

So far, the International game, expansion, the World Cup, NRL, RFL, BBC, Sky, Las Vegas, IMG, unfairness towards the Championship, neglect of grass roots are occupying the minds of the critics.

It really is getting me down, as you might have realised 

The RFL is currently advertising for a Marketing and Communications Director.

Perhaps you should apply, with a mission to change the conversation about Rugby League in a much more positive direction.

[Fevrover]

23 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I agree that "It's the hope that kills you"...well almost. What is really annoying, depressing and indeed infuriating it's the cacophony of negativity towards everything about our game. It seems much worse ...louder and more aggressiv... lately.

Of course, critical examination of objectives, goals, plans, tactics, results etc is important. However, it seems to me that much of the criticism of our sport is based on more on dogma than anything 

So far, the International game, expansion, the World Cup, NRL, RFL, BBC, Sky, Las Vegas, IMG, unfairness towards the Championship, neglect of grass roots are occupying the minds of the critics.

It really is getting me down, as you might have realised 

All about opinions, that's what a message board is about,and you know us Brits like a good moan . 

[JohnM]

2 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

The RFL is currently advertising for a Marketing and Communications Director.

Perhaps you should apply, with a mission to change the conversation about Rugby League in a much more positive direction.

Good suggestion. 20 years as a professional communicator....written and video, several years as a moderator of sessions at a manufacturig software conference,  presenter at similar exhibitions, running sales teams with multi- million dollar targets. Dealing with customers and people dedicated to success. All easy- peasy low stress jobs compared with ANYTHING in. rugby league.

And at my age, in my state of health and cantankerous demeanor,I reckon I've earned the right to tell it as it is. 

Edited August 1 by JohnM

[Harry Stottle]

39 minutes ago, JohnM said:

And at my age, in my state of health and cantankerous demeanor,I reckon I've earned the right to tell it as it is. 

Me too John, only we will be in opposite corners.

[Trojan Horse]

More work from the Trinity community team at grassroots and amateur level. 
 

Very interesting piece here and a fantastic scheme for young players between year 7 school age to 18 years. Also working with Amatuer coaches and teaching areas well beyond the Wakefield boundary. 

Img or not these things are critical for the future of rugby league. 
 

link here to the interview and video which is a good watch: 

 

Wakefield Trinity community interview

 

 

 

[gittinsfan]

6 hours ago, JohnM said:

Good suggestion. 20 years as a professional communicator....written and video, several years as a moderator of sessions at a manufacturig software conference,  presenter at similar exhibitions, running sales teams with multi- million dollar targets. Dealing with customers and people dedicated to success. All easy- peasy low stress jobs compared with ANYTHING in. rugby league.

And at my age, in my state of health and cantankerous demeanor,I reckon I've earned the right to tell it as it is. 

Is that your way of saying they could'nt afford tou.LOL

[JohnM]

9 hours ago, gittinsfan said:

Is that your way of saying they could'nt afford tou.LOL

Not only that. I'm not doing a Samkins and I'm too old, tired and out of date to drink from one of the most poisoned of chalices. In any case, whoever gets the job will have to spend too much time fighting off the inevitable opposition from within the game and from fans.

...though it depends on the car allowance and LVs.

Edited August 2 by JohnM

[Henson Park Old Firm]

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/london-broncos-owner-delivers-passionate-plea-to-scrap-bizarre-img-ruling

[phiggins]

33 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/london-broncos-owner-delivers-passionate-plea-to-scrap-bizarre-img-ruling

Is he proposing a system where teams are judged over a period of 27 years?

[Henson Park Old Firm]

2 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Is he proposing a system where teams are judged over a period of 27 years?

I have no idea, he has had ample time to get things right...

With all the money he's spent on moving staduims he could of built and own one by now, or the cheaper option, bought Old Trafford and moved it down to London.

[Hopie]

London are unlikely to gain a license or a high grading under any system based on current off field criteria.

However the 20/27 it does still point to the wider issue, that the cut off point is arbitrary, and at various points in the Super League era some clubs now seen as nowhere near would have been locked in, and some clubs now seen as obvious picks would have been locked out by the 3 year average and lower league handicap.

[Harry Stottle]

To @Trojan Horse

Sorry Trojan, you miss out one big element, just like my club Wakefield would be goosed without the forward thinking owners with big pockets we both enjoy.

Whatever you say about the governing body, it is the owners who promote or otherwise with their clubs and give the fans the feel good factor to turn up, IMG will kill the game below SL with their methods, interest will wane away big time eventually, SL is the big shiney building we see above the ground but you know what they say, without good strong foundations the building will crumble. It won't happen this year or next but if IMG do stay the full 12, it will be dire for the game as a whole. But I do not consider that IMG will last the duration I think that the SL Club Owners will have seen through them before we get to that stage, there are already grumblings about what are they actually doing that is tangible and accountable to make the sport money for their remuneration, save for advice about SM platforms.

Just my thoughts.