Sat 18th May: CCSF: Hull KR v Wigan Warriors KO 13:45 (BBC)

[WN83]

42 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

And I think that’s the key. This performance from us came about because of everything that had gone before. A lot of these players know what is required, because they have done it in the past. HKR aren’t there yet - when they are on song and dictate terms they can and will beat anyone, but they haven’t yet learnt how to deal with a watertight defence and attacking threats from every angle. I have seen no reason not to be sure that, in Peters and their back office leadership, they have the people there to make that step. This was a moment in time, but the HKR trajectory is impressively upwards. 

That game at HKR was so frustrating a few weeks back and you sort of say it not knowing if it’s true but my comments on the night were that it would be a blessing for us in the long run, because it pretty much guaranteed absolutely no complacency going in to today. We have a sloppy and complacent loss in us but when that group of players are on, they’re tough to beat. 

[Worzel]

1 hour ago, jacksy said:

I really don't like Kendall but he got the majority correct. You just weren't good enough.

It’s possible for Rovers not to be good enough, and for Kendall to have made several errors that worked in Wigan’s favour. There’s no contradiction there at all. It’s how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Chasing the game from an undeserved 10 nil down creates a completely different performance platform. None of which changes the fact that Wigan were by far the better side, or that Rovers shot themselves in the foot. But it’s not unreasonable to call Kendall’s decisions out nonetheless. 

[Worzel]

1 minute ago, WN83 said:

That game at HKR was so frustrating a few weeks back and you sort of say it not knowing if it’s true but my comments on the night were that it would be a blessing for us in the long run, because it pretty much guaranteed absolutely no complacency going in to today. We have a sloppy and complacent loss in us but when that group of players are on, they’re tough to beat. 

I think Wigan at 100% are by far the best side in the comp. Doesn’t mean you’ll win it, because that’s sport eh, but no doubt in my mind it is the strongest team. 

[WN83]

What were Kendall’s ‘several’ errors? The O’Neill forward pass was Wilkin making a ###### of himself and then there was the May/Smith coming together, that I’d have to see again. 
 

Anyone thinking the ref had a major impact on that today are trying to find comfort/excuses IMO. 

[sentoffagain2]

8 minutes ago, WN83 said:

19! It’s scary his potential. Sadly I suspect it’ll be on show in the NRL in a couple of years time. He admitted before he’d even made his Wigan debut that he hopes to follow his best mate (Pearce-Paul) over there at some point. 

  Can't blame him for having ambition.Wigan have managed him well he seems to have adjusted into SL Rugby.

[Worzel]

48 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

And I think that’s the key. This performance from us came about because of everything that had gone before. A lot of these players know what is required, because they have done it in the past. HKR aren’t there yet - when they are on song and dictate terms they can and will beat anyone, but they haven’t yet learnt how to deal with a watertight defence and attacking threats from every angle. I have seen no reason not to be sure that, in Peters and their back office leadership, they have the people there to make that step. This was a moment in time, but the HKR trajectory is impressively upwards. 

You’re right. Peters talks about Wigan all the time. We see that organisational resilience and consistency as the benchmark to strive towards, but nobody is under any illusions that at this stage Rovers are a Top 6 side with Top 4 capability. I’m enjoying the journey - even today had its bright spots, oddly. 

[WN83]

8 minutes ago, Worzel said:

I think Wigan at 100% are by far the best side in the comp. Doesn’t mean you’ll win it, because that’s sport eh, but no doubt in my mind it is the strongest team. 

Nothing is guaranteed. I’ve been frustrated with talk of some sort of dynasty. That isn’t something you can predict, it just happens and you look back on it and you need so much luck along the way. It’s a good side but the Wigan side itself highlights how quickly a team can be turned around. The first 17 on paper now is so much better than the one which won the cup in 2022 but if we can do it, why not Wire, Saints again, HKR, Catalans? They could be overtaken as quickly as they’ve got themselves to number one. 
 

 

Edited May 18 by WN83

[Ullman]

Been in town all afternoon and just about to watch the game.

Any good or shall I not bother?

[WN83]

3 minutes ago, sentoffagain2 said:

  Can't blame him for having ambition.Wigan have managed him well he seems to have adjusted into SL Rugby.

You can’t, I know where I’d be looking to go if I were that talented at such a young age. The mid season international will be interesting when it comes to Nsemba. Second row options aren’t jumping out, with Bateman and KPP down under and he may be worth a punt, especially as a bench option. 

[JohnM]

4 minutes ago, Ullman said:

Been in town all afternoon and just about to watch the game.

Any good or shall I not bother?

It's well worth watching.

[Dunbar]

26 minutes ago, WN83 said:

19! It’s scary his potential. Sadly I suspect it’ll be on show in the NRL in a couple of years time. He admitted before he’d even made his Wigan debut that he hopes to follow his best mate (Pearce-Paul) over there at some point. 

He is contracted to the end of 2027 and so plenty of time to enjoy his performances for Wigan yet.

[WN83]

14 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

He is contracted to the end of 2027 and so plenty of time to enjoy his performances for Wigan yet.

Oh definitely, I think he’ll probably play that out and then go at 22ish. I don’t think I’ve seen a Young forward come through and look as physically dominant since Gaz Hock and Junior is a year or so younger than Hock when he debuted. Unlike Hock though, this kid looks to have his head screwed on right. He’s an exciting prospect, not only for Wigan but for the game in the UK. 

[Old Frightful]

30 minutes ago, Ullman said:

Been in town all afternoon and just about to watch the game.

Any good or shall I not bother?

I wouldn't bother...yet.

Get a nice single malt ready and I'll pop round...

[Old Frightful]

4 hours ago, graveyard johnny said:

KR fans look like they are thinking "I could be at home watching Columbo"

"Just one more question..."

[ATLANTISMAN]

6 hours ago, Just Browny said:

Looks miles off a sellout. Good conditions for a classic though.

RL sell out claims is normally pie in the SKY i know quite a few ticket touts (Fellow Millwall fans who tend to monopolise the business sport concerts etc) and in the last 40 years only 1 RL match as ever sold out and been over subscribed to the extent that Fat Ted and his mates have come up north from the smoke to try to make a few quid and that was the GB v Australia 3rd rest at Elland Road way back after the series was tied at 1 all and even then tickets were only fetching 50 pounds max.

Millwall v Plymouth 2 weeks ago had to pay 400 for 2 tickets for my boys.

 

P

[Dunbar]

3 minutes ago, WN83 said:

Oh definitely, I think he’ll probably play that out and then go at 22ish. I don’t think I’ve seen a Young forward come through and look as physically dominant since Gaz Hock and Junior is a year or so younger than Hock when he debuted. Unlike Hock though, this kid looks to have his head screwed on right. He’s an exciting prospect, not only for Wigan but for the game in the UK. 

Agreed.  If Sam Walters plays on the edge when Farrell steps down then they are a very big and athletic pair.  With the middles Wigan have, that's a hell of a pack.

[Dunbar]

4 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

RL sell out claims is normally pie in the SKY i know quite a few ticket touts (Fellow Millwall fans who tend to monopolise the business sport concerts etc) and in the last 40 years only 1 RL match as ever sold out and been over subscribed to the extent that Fat Ted and his mates have come up north from the smoke to try to make a few quid and that was the GB v Australia 3rd rest at Elland Road way back after the series was tied at 1 all and even then tickets were only fetching 50 pounds max.

Millwall v Plymouth 2 weeks ago had to pay 400 for 2 tickets for my boys.

 

P

I had a premonition you were going to say that.

[jacksy]

51 minutes ago, Worzel said:

It’s possible for Rovers not to be good enough, and for Kendall to have made several errors that worked in Wigan’s favour. There’s no contradiction there at all. It’s how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Chasing the game from an undeserved 10 nil down creates a completely different performance platform. None of which changes the fact that Wigan were by far the better side, or that Rovers shot themselves in the foot. But it’s not unreasonable to call Kendall’s decisions out nonetheless. 

Undeserved 10 lead?

You was off side, so a correct call and the obstruction. Well it was 50/50.

Have a troll through my posts I've called out Kendall plenty of times.

Today he was fine.

 

 

Edited May 18 by jacksy

[Padge]

1 hour ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

And I think that’s the key. This performance from us came about because of everything that had gone before. A lot of these players know what is required, because they have done it in the past. HKR aren’t there yet - when they are on song and dictate terms they can and will beat anyone, but they haven’t yet learnt how to deal with a watertight defence and attacking threats from every angle. I have seen no reason not to be sure that, in Peters and their back office leadership, they have the people there to make that step. This was a moment in time, but the HKR trajectory is impressively upwards. 

 So why did we lose last year?

[up the robins]

Best team by a mile today Wigan.

Our lads didn't give up and kept trying to the end but outclassed, we made way to many basic errors and against a team of Wigan s  quality you get punished.

As a club we are growing and will benefit from the big game experience and hopefully our time will come.

[Padge]

1 hour ago, Worzel said:

It’s possible for Rovers not to be good enough, and for Kendall to have made several errors that worked in Wigan’s favour. There’s no contradiction there at all. It’s how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Chasing the game from an undeserved 10 nil down creates a completely different performance platform. None of which changes the fact that Wigan were by far the better side, or that Rovers shot themselves in the foot. But it’s not unreasonable to call Kendall’s decisions out nonetheless. 

Watch Hall's half time verdict.

[Ullman]

26 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

I wouldn't bother...yet.

Get a nice single malt ready and I'll pop round...

I'm up to half time.

I'll pause it until you get here.

[Padge]

3 minutes ago, Ullman said:

I'm up to half time.

I'll pause it until you get here.

Thank god you didn't say until you come 

[Jinking Jimmy]

1 hour ago, Worzel said:

It’s possible for Rovers not to be good enough, and for Kendall to have made several errors that worked in Wigan’s favour. There’s no contradiction there at all. It’s how the cookie crumbles sometimes.

Chasing the game from an undeserved 10 nil down creates a completely different performance platform. None of which changes the fact that Wigan were by far the better side, or that Rovers shot themselves in the foot. But it’s not unreasonable to call Kendall’s decisions out nonetheless. 

Why was being 10-0 down undeserved?

Edited May 18 by Jinking Jimmy

[Ullman]

6 minutes ago, Padge said:

Thank god you didn't say until you come 

I was going to say I'll leave the back gate open but thought better of it.