Salford financial issues(again…)

[Henson Park Old Firm]

https://x.com/M_Shaw1/status/1877648298745512099?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

[DI Keith Fowler]

28 minutes ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:

https://x.com/M_Shaw1/status/1877648298745512099?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

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Rugby League Live can reveal that over half of the clubs currently in Super League have now formally contacted Salford and the RFL and placed offers for the players they are interested in signing should Salford need to cash in.

The telling line. Just clubs trying to ramp up the pressure to get some transfers done, no actual developments in the story. 

[Segovia Carpet]

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

[JohnM]

16 minutes ago, Segovia Carpet said:

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

Yes, how dare they act to reassure players that should their club fold, they will still have jobs in the game.

[Dave T]

24 minutes ago, Segovia Carpet said:

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

Nah. Can't keep playing the victim.

[phiggins]

1 hour ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

The telling line. Just clubs trying to ramp up the pressure to get some transfers done, no actual developments in the story. 

The longer the story goes without developments, the more likely it is that developments will be bad news for Salford when they do happen 

[Morris Wanchuk]

1 hour ago, Segovia Carpet said:

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

Haha when Trinity were skint who do you think bought Tim Smith when the good Dr was splashing the cash? 

[LeytherRob]

1 hour ago, Morris Wanchuk said:

Haha when Trinity were skint who do you think bought Tim Smith when the good Dr was splashing the cash? 

Not to mention snapping up Watkins and Ackers from Toronto. Salford have consistently shown little mercy when other clubs have been in financial strife. Expecting other clubs to do the opposite for them is highly hypocritical.

[Morris Wanchuk]

15 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

Not to mention snapping up Watkins and Ackers from Toronto. Salford have consistently shown little mercy when other clubs have been in financial strife. Expecting other clubs to do the opposite for them is highly hypocritical.

I think Salfords self inflicted predicament has become tiresome for a lot of people. 

[Worzel]

3 hours ago, Segovia Carpet said:

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

Salford hold the players’ contracts. If you can afford them, you’ll keep them. If on the other hand you can’t, and you need to sell some players, then those clubs you’re slagging off will be the difference between you still having a team to support and not having one at all. 

Might be time to stop blaming outsiders, start smelling the coffee, and be grateful that the RFL and your fellow Super League members are trying to save you from yourselves. 

[JonM]

11 hours ago, Segovia Carpet said:

The Rugby League family eh?

The greed and honesty of the ppl behind these Vulture clubs shows their true position. 

Serious question - how many of the Salford squad were NOT signed from a different RL club by offering that player money? Are there any of the first team squad at all for whom that isn't true?

[Charlie]

8 hours ago, Worzel said:

Salford hold the players’ contracts. If you can afford them, you’ll keep them. If on the other hand you can’t, and you need to sell some players, then those clubs you’re slagging off will be the difference between you still having a team to support and not having one at all. 

Might be time to stop blaming outsiders, start smelling the coffee, and be grateful that the RFL and your fellow Super League members are trying to save you from yourselves. 

I wouldn’t say there other clubs are trying to save anyone there looking after there best interests which is completely fair 

[Charlie]

49 minutes ago, JonM said:

Serious question - how many of the Salford squad were NOT signed from a different RL club by offering that player money? Are there any of the first team squad at all for whom that isn't true?

Most of Salford squad is made up of players clubs didn’t want don’t forget other then London they were the lowest spending side last season. 

[phiggins]

21 minutes ago, Charlie said:

Most of Salford squad is made up of players clubs didn’t want don’t forget other then London they were the lowest spending side last season. 

Is there actually any evidence of that claim? I seriously doubt they spent less than Cas for example. Their first 13/17 players will be on a decent amount relative to the rest of the league imo. 

[Charlie]

6 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Is there actually any evidence of that claim? I seriously doubt they spent less than Cas for example. Their first 13/17 players will be on a decent amount relative to the rest of the league imo. 

https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-league-clubs-estimated-salary-spend-for-2024/
 

it’s pretty well documented 

[Charlie]

9 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Is there actually any evidence of that claim? I seriously doubt they spent less than Cas for example. Their first 13/17 players will be on a decent amount relative to the rest of the league imo. 

A lot of the plays that have come to Salford haven’t been wanted by there clubs so they get them on decent deals. That’s why I put rowley as the clubs top asset 

[M j M]

27 minutes ago, phiggins said:

Is there actually any evidence of that claim? I seriously doubt they spent less than Cas for example. Their first 13/17 players will be on a decent amount relative to the rest of the league imo. 

It's hard to know for sure from the outside but we all know Salford pick up, for want of a better word, rejects from other clubs that Rowley specialises in bringing back to good form. So by default they tend to get players on the cheap.

[Morris Wanchuk]

2 hours ago, Charlie said:

https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-league-clubs-estimated-salary-spend-for-2024/
 

it’s pretty well documented 

Well if Salford do spend less than anyone else and are still skint it just shows that they aren’t a viable SL club in their current guise. You do have to acknowledge what a great job Rowley is doing. 

[JonM]

3 hours ago, Charlie said:

A lot of the plays that have come to Salford haven’t been wanted by there clubs so they get them on decent deals. That’s why I put rowley as the clubs top asset 

I mean, speaking as a Widnes fan, I'm pretty confident we would've loved to have kept say Deon Cross, Tyler Dupree or Joe Mellor. And the fact that 7+ SL clubs have expressed interest in Salford players according to the above story makes me thing that at least some of the Salford players were actually wanted by other clubs.

It's not like say London Broncos where you had a squad of players largely produced locally who're being picked off by 'vulture clubs' or the many other clubs who field a team with large numbers of products of their own academy. These are players that Salford have signed from other professional clubs with a promise of being paid a certain amount, who're now potentially moving to other professional clubs who have the money to actually pay them their wages. 

[Charlie]

7 minutes ago, JonM said:

I mean, speaking as a Widnes fan, I'm pretty confident we would've loved to have kept say Deon Cross, Tyler Dupree or Joe Mellor. And the fact that 7+ SL clubs have expressed interest in Salford players according to the above story makes me thing that at least some of the Salford players were actually wanted by other clubs.

It's not like say London Broncos where you had a squad of players largely produced locally who're being picked off by 'vulture clubs' or the many other clubs who field a team with large numbers of products of their own academy. These are players that Salford have signed from other professional clubs with a promise of being paid a certain amount, who're now potentially moving to other professional clubs who have the money to actually pay them their wages. 

Salford didn’t sign Mellor from Widnes?

[JonM]

13 minutes ago, Charlie said:

Salford didn’t sign Mellor from Widnes?

No, he came from Leigh, via Toronto, having spent 7 seasons at Widnes. But my point remains - you can't get angry and throw about names like vulture about other clubs signing your players by offering to pay them when literally the entire Salford squad was signed from other professional clubs. 

[Worzel]

4 hours ago, Charlie said:

I wouldn’t say there other clubs are trying to save anyone there looking after there best interests which is completely fair 

That’s one of way of looking at it certainly. But there’s an imbalance of need in your equation. The other clubs have an interest in improving their squads, but it’s not life or death so it’s marginal. Salford on the other hand may NEED those clubs to buy players in order to survive. 

Salford’s role is like the role of a pig and in egg and bacon sandwich, whereas the clubs are just like the chicken. The chicken is involved in making the sandwich, sure, but the pig? The pig is truly committed

[Charlie]

8 minutes ago, JonM said:

No, he came from Leigh, via Toronto, having spent 7 seasons at Widnes. But my point remains - you can't get angry and throw about names like vulture about other clubs signing your players by offering to pay them when literally the entire Salford squad was signed from other professional clubs. 

I’ve not called anyone vultures? Just pointed out the fact Salford don’t spend that much and normally pick up cast offs 

[Charlie]

6 minutes ago, Worzel said:

That’s one of way of looking at it certainly. But there’s an imbalance of need in your equation. The other clubs have an interest in improving their squads, but it’s not life or death so it’s marginal. Salford on the other hand may NEED those clubs to buy players in order to survive. 

Salford’s role is like the role of a pig and in egg and bacon sandwich, whereas the clubs are just like the chicken. The chicken is involved in making the sandwich, sure, but the pig? The pig is truly committed

Personally if no investment comes and the club needs to sell which may happen I’d rather they pull out off sl 

[Wakefield Ram]

3 hours ago, Charlie said:

https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-league-clubs-estimated-salary-spend-for-2024/
 

it’s pretty well documented 

Good job there's a salary cap to level up the competition....