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#21 amh

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:52 PM

De we know what date yet? Bet they pick the Valentines weekend - 14th is on a Monday - so your other halves can moan cos you're away - or you can treat them and take them with you - or come home so hungover and knackered you're fit for nowt on the actual day biggrin.gif


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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:43 PM

If its just a jolly for the fans then I can understand the logic re closed roof and local pubs.

If its supposedly a development exercise then seeing as the Crusaders have moved North and the recent attendance at Neath was abysmal (which to me is understandable) then its a strange decision.
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Posted 30 July 2010 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Jill Halfpenny fan @ Jul 30 2010, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If its just a jolly for the fans then I can understand the logic re closed roof and local pubs.

If its supposedly a development exercise then seeing as the Crusaders have moved North and the recent attendance at Neath was abysmal (which to me is understandable) then its a strange decision.


It would seem to me that is is more of a 'season opener' than the previous 'promotional exercise' it was billed as before.

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#24 sgorpioncaerdyddrob

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:43 PM

As happy as I am to have it back on my doorstep if it is true does the RFL not know that February 13/14th weekend is right at the beginning of the RU SIX NATIONS CHAMPIONSHIP???? They might have a bit of publicity competition to contend with , but what else is new down here!

Im not so sure the WRU would want them to be using their pitch in the build up to their money spinning season . I'll wait and see considering the WRU once described RL as the 'Child that should be strangled at birth' I'll reserve judgement .

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#25 Bullman01

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 10:48 PM

i think going back to cardiff is a good plan, however I do not think feb is good for the game, being it will be some of the first games of the new season, none of the clubs are up to speed. The other issue i have is no-one will have any money just after the christmas spend - or yes the other thing is we will not get any press at all it right in the middle of the 6 nations blush.gif blush.gif

#26 Chronicler of Chiswick

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:57 AM

QUOTE (cardifcrusaderrob @ Jul 30 2010, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As happy as I am to have it back on my doorstep if it is true does the RFL not know that February 13/14th weekend is right at the beginning of the RU SIX NATIONS CHAMPIONSHIP???? They might have a bit of publicity competition to contend with , but what else is new down here!

Im not so sure the WRU would want them to be using their pitch in the build up to their money spinning season . I'll wait and see considering the WRU once described RL as the 'Child that should be strangled at birth' I'll reserve judgement .

This is the 'Sun' we're talking about here! Like you, I don't see the WRU agreeing to this at the start of the Six Nations Championship, particularly given that the pitch isn't that marvellous and has had to be re-laid on several occasions.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:34 AM

QUOTE (Chronicler of Chiswick @ Jul 31 2010, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the 'Sun' we're talking about here! Like you, I don't see the WRU agreeing to this at the start of the Six Nations Championship, particularly given that the pitch isn't that marvellous and has had to be re-laid on several occasions.

It isnt, i dont think, directly a wru decision. AFAIK the millinium stadium comp. is charged with making best use of the stadium to generate the income to cover the recently restructured debts from building the thing. In truth the wru cant afford to be that picky seeming that they lost: fa cup final, play off finals, league cup final and the challenge cup final and concerts have been cancelled because of the recession.
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#28 Trojan

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:04 AM

Only Rugby League could attempt to establish a new club in a new area, and then withdraw the one high profile RL event of the year in that area. It didn't make sense to move it to Edinburgh for me. In fact I've never seen a satisfactory explanation of why it was moved there.
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#29 Johnoco

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Jul 31 2010, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In fact I've never seen a satisfactory explanation of why it was moved there.


The reasons were mainly broken promises in relation to promoting the games, it was all over here at the time.

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#30 Wellsy4HullFC

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 03:22 PM

I assume it will be the first game of the season, why else would they move it to February? Although this is the RFL, who don't have a very good track record of event organising and management!

I'd assume the first weekend of February (5th/6th).
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE (Wellsy4HullFC @ Jul 31 2010, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume it will be the first game of the season, why else would they move it to February? Although this is the RFL, who don't have a very good track record of event organising and management!

I'd assume the first weekend of February (5th/6th).


Don't bother making that assumption as Wales play England in Cardiff on the 4th. It is going to be either the following weekend or the one after that. Wales don't have another home game until March.

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (Jill Halfpenny fan @ Jul 30 2010, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If its just a jolly for the fans then I can understand the logic re closed roof and local pubs.

If its supposedly a development exercise then seeing as the Crusaders have moved North and the recent attendance at Neath was abysmal (which to me is understandable) then its a strange decision.


Still peddling the "attendance competition" approach to flat capism then?

Doesn't it matter that RL is taking off very well as a sport for kids and adults in South Wales then???

Crusaders had to move north due to a lack of money, so why would the RFL give up the Welsh development project just because of that setback?

You don't have to argue South Wales out of the picture anymore. You have your sugar daddy now.

However If he pulls out will you be suggesting, just to be consistent, that RL should be packed up in Widnes?

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#33 Lobbygobbler

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 09:40 AM

So will it be Crusaders V Wire? That would be a decent derby

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

Will be freezing but who gives a toss. Love Magic Weekend, as I said on Boots n' All. (My claim to fame!)

Cant wait, going to be great. Loved Edinburgh, but where ever it is we will have a laugh watching the greatest game on the planet!!!!

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Trojan @ Jul 31 2010, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only Rugby League could attempt to establish a new club in a new area, and then withdraw the one high profile RL event of the year in that area. It didn't make sense to move it to Edinburgh for me. In fact I've never seen a satisfactory explanation of why it was moved there.

If I remember rightly the SRU were very enthusiastic and promised to promote the weekend more than had happened in Cardiff. Various local bodies like the city council and the Scottish tourist board were also involved in the bid. The weekend is still a bit of a money spinner for the host city. I'm pretty certain it was only a 2 year deal.

I don't think the 7 games over 1 weekend works. All you get is fans drifting in and out all day. And even with derbies you're still going to get some less appealing matches. A double header would be better to start the season. The RFL could pick out the best 2 matches to showcase. The roof at Cardiff would at least insure the 2 Sky matches that weekend go ahead.

The other 5 games from the 'magic weekend' could be played on the road at other locations at different stages of the year - Barcelona, Toulouse, Edinburgh or even Dublin. One match in each other loaction. That way all 7 games are played on the road but spread out over the season.



#36 Black Country Wire

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 10:12 PM

QUOTE (Lobbygobbler @ Aug 2 2010, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So will it be Crusaders V Wire? That would be a decent derby


Probably. Which would leave Huddersfield v Salford!

Not got a problem with going back to Cardiff, but holding it in February seems a bit daft bearing in mind the weather.
And as has been said elsewhere, not being a bank holiday will see a lot more people leaving well before the end (start?) of the last game (or two) on the Sunday.
And I've never been happy with having "derbies" rather than a random set of fixtures - seems a bit contrived.


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#37 indomitable

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (Johnoco @ Jul 30 2010, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is the sticking point....... dry.gif

There will be a small tournament going on at the same time called the 6 Nations which will kill local spectators, plus no hope of much local coverage. Last time was almost nill, and when I went to work in Cardiff I only passed one poster in the railway station, non existent in the city. I recall on this board they had a superb one of Deacon on the Taff beside the stadium, but never saw it round here.
Personally I am more than pleased to see it return to the MM but there could be a major drop in attendance.

#38 THE RED ROOSTER

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:06 AM

Some facts

Firstly the Millenium stadium schedule which has a gap from 4 February to 11 March
http://www.millenniu...vents/index.php

Secondly at the Fans Forum on 27th April Paul Blanchard Harlequins RL CEO stated that there would NOT be a staggered start to the season in 2011 as this had not worked for any of the clubs concerned.

With the World Club Challenge, what this will mean is that the Super League Champions and Harlequins (If they exist in 2011 and if the get the trial game hit out for the NRL club) will either have a game to be played in midweek (3 games in about 9 days) or to remain TBA on the schedule in the hope than an early Chalenge Cup exit provides an alternative date.

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (THE RED ROOSTER @ Aug 6 2010, 08:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the World Club Challenge, what this will mean is that the Super League Champions and Harlequins (If they exist in 2011 and if the get the trial game hit out for the NRL club) will either have a game to be played in midweek (3 games in about 9 days) or to remain TBA on the schedule in the hope than an early Chalenge Cup exit provides an alternative date.


So they're not going with the obvious solution of bringing the whole round of games forward then?

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#40 Wellsy4HullFC

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Black Country Wire @ Aug 7 2010, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So they're not going with the obvious solution of bringing the whole round of games forward then?

It's not difficult, is it?

Instead of having a stand-alone SL game kick-off the season and a marquee event sandwiched into the same weekend as usual SL games, we bring the entire round forward to kick-off the season with a bang and leave the WCC on its own weekend so everyone can go.

Doesn't take a genius, does it? In fact, I can't believe they've stuck with the idiot staggered start for 5 years!
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