Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Things have changed a lot since I got my 1st at the age of 17. Managed to keep then hidden from my Dad for a full year. Only convicts and Sailors, he used to say. I never did join the Navy though. One of my own sons is covered in them but nothing above the collar bone. Must admit I'm envious of the content and quality of the ones he has, all done by some guy in Ossett. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Rinkadink said: with it's undertones of sexism and prejudice. Could you expand a little on that, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 that moth on Tomkins leg is simply awful see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans82 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 If only certain players put as much thought and planning into their rugby careers as they do with their tattoos . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, ivans82 said: If only certain players put as much thought and planning into their rugby careers as they do with their tattoos . and hair styles ! see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: and hair styles ! Yes, Harvey Livett has clearly never seen Beaker from the Muppets. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Allora said: I suggest there is a copycat herd/sheep mentality in many that sport Tattoos nowadays, bit like Beards, but you can shave them off. It seems weird to me that you would describe having beards or tattoos as a herd/sheep mentality when they're clearly doing something that is outside the norm? Why do men scrape a sharp blade across their faces every day to remove perfectly natural hair growth if not for a sheep-like conformation to a societal norm? 3 hours ago, Ant said: Art, fashion, culture All come together in tattoos. Yeah it's far more fashionable now but they've always been a thing and more or less common at different times. Me, I love them. Other people don't- but I'm not asking them to get any done. As for the "what will it look like when you're older" the answer is fantastic. That's what it'll look like. And otherwise none of your business. I'd say there was a lot of mileage in your book and in both circles of sport and tattoos. Well said. I don't have a tattoo but some of the ones I've seen are works of art and should be appreciated as such. Each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 5 hours ago, JohnM said: Mate had LOVE and HAT tattoo. L.O.V.E on each left hand finger and H.A.T. on each right hand finger.... Advice, also. Don't have your the name of wife, mistress , lover or GF tattooed. And if you are a player, don't have the club name tattooed. And don’t have ‘Hull Sharks’ tattooed on your lower leg, the season before they changed back to Hull FC. I think they look ######. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, damp squib said: Why do men scrape a sharp blade across their faces every day to remove perfectly natural hair growth if not for a sheep-like conformation to a societal norm? Hygiene, comfort, aethetics, lack of electric razor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, JohnM said: Hygiene, comfort, aethetics, lack of electric razor.... First is a myth, second and third are subjective. It doesn't explain why the vast majority of men shave every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I'm a great lover of tattoos and have a number. I personally have them because they are images of certain things I love and they just make me smile when I see them. For me it is a personal thing. There is also the art and cultural aspect. I love looking at other people's tattoos and discussing their ideas behind them and others things they would like to get do and so on. You can learn a lot about someone from their tattoos and I've certainly met some really great people in the tattoo world. I do know a couple of people that clearly do have them to create some kind of false image, one guy for example likes to think he is a rock star (would help if he could actually play guitar well) so there is that side to it as well. In terms of people saying they will look awful and fade when you get older, that is why you get them touched up every so often to sharpen them up again. And in terms of daft tattoos that people regret later on in life, one thing a lot of people do is actually put some thought into it, research a really good artist and get something decent done over the top of it to cover the rubbish one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, damp squib said: It doesn't explain why the vast majority of men shave every day. I hardly know any men that shave every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I have a full sleeve on one arm and aim to have the other finished soon. My wife and daughter are both tattooed, we all love them. I do appreciate they’re not everyone’s cup of tea but as my mom used to say “it wouldn’t do if we all liked the same things” "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluded pom? Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Mom!!! Are you american Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, deluded pom? said: Mom!!! Are you american Phil? No I’m a Yorkshireman "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Mike Stephenson has a herd (?) of rabbits tattooed on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 16 hours ago, damp squib said: Why do men scrape a sharp blade across their faces every day to remove perfectly natural hair growth if not for a sheep-like conformation to a societal norm? Do you not cut the hair on top of your head, do you walk about like 'Cousin It' from the Addams Family? Do you conform to the hair cutting ritual? If not other reasons could possibly be you are either folically challenged or a member of a religious order like Indian Sikhs. I suppose when an argument suits you, use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said: Do you not cut the hair on top of your head, do you walk about like 'Cousin It' from the Addams Family? Do you conform to the hair cutting ritual? If not other reasons could possibly be you are either folically challenged or a member of a religious order like Indian Sikhs. I suppose when an argument suits you, use it. I'm not sure how this is an argument against what I said? Yes I do cut my hair. Because my place of employment expects me to uphold the societal norm of having short hair. *also I'm receding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, damp squib said: I'm not sure how this is an argument against what I said? Yes I do cut my hair. Because my place of employment expects me to uphold the societal norm of having short hair. *also I'm receding Employers that wish to enforce a dress code that requires male employees to keep their hair short should be aware that such a rule could be held to be discriminatory. The position under current case law is that an employer can enforce a dress code requiring different styles of appearance between men and women, provided that the employer applies a comparable or equivalent standard of smartness and conventionality for both sexes. https://www.xperthr.co.uk/faq/can-an-employer-have-a-policy-that-requires-male-employees-to-keep-their-hair-short/98058/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iangidds Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 22 hours ago, Ant said: Art, fashion, culture All come together in tattoos. Yeah it's far more fashionable now but they've always been a thing and more or less common at different times. Me, I love them. Other people don't- but I'm not asking them to get any done. As for the "what will it look like when you're older" the answer is fantastic. That's what it'll look like. And otherwise none of your business. I'd say there was a lot of mileage in your book and in both circles of sport and tattoos. Thanks for that , I have no tattoos at all but do appreciate them at times! This is about raising the profiles of the players and their sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iangidds Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 19 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said: I'm a great lover of tattoos and have a number. I personally have them because they are images of certain things I love and they just make me smile when I see them. For me it is a personal thing. There is also the art and cultural aspect. I love looking at other people's tattoos and discussing their ideas behind them and others things they would like to get do and so on. You can learn a lot about someone from their tattoos and I've certainly met some really great people in the tattoo world. I do know a couple of people that clearly do have them to create some kind of false image, one guy for example likes to think he is a rock star (would help if he could actually play guitar well) so there is that side to it as well. In terms of people saying they will look awful and fade when you get older, that is why you get them touched up every so often to sharpen them up again. And in terms of daft tattoos that people regret later on in life, one thing a lot of people do is actually put some thought into it, research a really good artist and get something decent done over the top of it to cover the rubbish one up. Excellent post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnM said: Employers that wish to enforce a dress code that requires male employees to keep their hair short should be aware that such a rule could be held to be discriminatory. The position under current case law is that an employer can enforce a dress code requiring different styles of appearance between men and women, provided that the employer applies a comparable or equivalent standard of smartness and conventionality for both sexes. https://www.xperthr.co.uk/faq/can-an-employer-have-a-policy-that-requires-male-employees-to-keep-their-hair-short/98058/ You are entirely missing my point and taking this way off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 11:08 AM, MZH said: Its not something that I would be interested in tbh but I'm sure there is a market for it. Not sure if there would be enough interesting stories out there to justify a book. But a calendar could do well amongst women, especially if its for a good cause. Why only amongst women? Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind side johnny Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 1:19 PM, Rupert Prince said: I cannot think of anything more crass than tattoos. Nothing more to add. Well, I can think of lots of things more crass. Maybe you lack imagination? Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I think some tattoos look great on both men and women. The single reason I wouldn't get one though is the permanence. I am in my late 40's now and in so many ways I am very different to who I was in my 20's... my taste in music, art, clothes and so many other things has changed. I would be worried that the tattoo I once loved I would start to dislike. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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