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The Sun now banning RL indefinitely

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2 hours ago, Yosser said:

The cold war between the Sun and the sport shows no signs of thawing. The ban even includes publishing any results.

https://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/publishing-news/2019/06/sun-boycotts-rugby-league-after-being-barred-magic-weekend

Also a chance to dig back at Robert Elstone after the paper was forced to back down previously: "Super League chief executive Robert Elstone was in charge at Everton when the club banned The Sun from its Goodison Park Stadium and Finch Farm training complex because of comments Kelvin McKenzie made about the midfielder Ross Barkley in a column in 2017. The newspaper subsequently printed an apology."


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45 minutes ago, JohnM said:

\I'd say it was important that it covered our game so as to increase awareness in that demographic so finding out what went wrong,  who did what and what can be done to put it right.

nothing went wrong scumbags banned from anfield end of story

47 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I'd say it was important that it covered our game so as to increase awareness in that demographic so finding out what went wrong,  who did what and what can be done to put it right.

the scumbags used the ban as an excuse to stop reporting on rugby league

50 minutes ago, JohnM said:

I'd say it was important that it covered our game so as to increase awareness in that demographic so finding out what went wrong,  who did what and what can be done to put it right.

nothing to put right  scumbags banned from anfield end of story

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I never bought the Sun regularly but in the early to mid eighties I used to alternate between lots of papers to try and get some sort of "balance" which meant sometimes buying the Sun.  During this phase I even read the Sunday Sport once til I saw how little sport was in it.

Whenever, I bought the Sun during that period there was a regular feature called 20 things you didn't know that would pick a different group of people to stigmatise such as groups pf workers like prison officers, nurses, teachers, car factory workers or even ethnic groups like Asians, people from the Caribbean as well as different areas of the country like Newcastle, Glasgow, Liverpool etc.

Anyhow, it didn't seem to matter which group it was, as the 20 "facts" we didn't know almost always seemed to be the same.  This group of people were largely gay, drug addicts, alcoholics, thieves, scroungers etc etc.  So over the weeks they gradually attacked most of the people in Britain but in the next edition they claimed to be patriotic and "standing up" for Britain

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4 minutes ago, themainbrace said:

During this phase I even read the Sunday Sport once til I saw how little sport was in it.

What phase was that then....😆😆😋😋

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43 minutes ago, POR said:

nothing went wrong scumbags banned from anfield end of story

the scumbags used the ban as an excuse to stop reporting on rugby league

nothing to put right  scumbags banned from anfield end of story

If they are banned from Anfield then surely the ground shouldn't be used. Why should rugby league get into the argument?

Liverpool are a multi millionaire business and can afford to lose a tiny bit of publicity from newspapers. We cannot. I would say the same for whichever paper.

The dispute is nothing to do with us. 

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Whether you think its right or wrong that the s*n was barred from magic weekend the sport cannot be bullied by a fading media and a disgusting rag which has destroyed many lives over the years. I believe it was right that Liverpool took a stand. A half hearted apology or not, the headlines and years without any remorse meant justice was not forthcoming for years and years. 

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19 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said:

Whether you think its right or wrong that the s*n was barred from magic weekend the sport cannot be bullied by a fading media and a disgusting rag which has destroyed many lives over the years. I believe it was right that Liverpool took a stand. A half hearted apology or not, the headlines and years without any remorse meant justice was not forthcoming for years and years. 

They weren't banned from magic,that makes it sound like we had a part in this,the RFL gave the sun & Gary Carter a media accreditation for him to pick up at anfield...it's then when the LFC press office stepped in...

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15 minutes ago, roughyedspud said:

They weren't banned from magic,that makes it sound like we had a part in this,the RFL gave the sun & Gary Carter a media accreditation for him to pick up at anfield...it's then when the LFC press office stepped in...

I wasn't saying that. The upshot is they were barred and rightly imo. Makes you wonder that neither Superleague (headed up by Rob Elstone) or the s*n foresaw any problems beforehand. 

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35 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said:

I wasn't saying that. The upshot is they were barred and rightly imo. Makes you wonder that neither Superleague (headed up by Rob Elstone) or the s*n foresaw any problems beforehand. 

But it wasn't the call of the LFC press officer to ban them for our weekend event.

I read that UEFA overturn the ban on the Sun for Champions league matches there. 

Why therefore should LFC think they can treat the RFL differently?

If it really was a matter of principle LFC would stand up to Uefa even if it meant playing games away from Anfield. 

 

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2 hours ago, paulwalker71 said:

Isn't it obvious that the Sun was looking for a reason to can it's RL coverage, and the Magic scenario gave them an excuse to do so?

That would seem the most likely and logical reason behind all this.

I do find arguing for the Sun questionable to say the least and saying it's for RL's footprint is complete nonsense.

Now a complete ban on the Sun on the grounds of it's discriminatory attitude towards our sport along with several other papers might be a way forward and a marketing push we could keep on track for quite a while.

 


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2 hours ago, paulwalker71 said:

Isn't it obvious that the Sun was looking for a reason to can it's RL coverage, and the Magic scenario gave them an excuse to do so?

You would have to think so. As it has been reported, it wasn't RL banning them. So to punish RL for an action they weren't involved in is totally unreasonable. 

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It is a vile rag and I would rather bleach my eyes out than read it. But sometimes we need to pinch our nose and do what is needed for the good of our sport, like let vile rags report on it.

Not this time. This boycott is vindictive and pathetic, and entirely characteristic of the Sun. Not only should we not go kowtowing to them, but we should be far braver and go public about what has gone on and why we won't be apologising. Giving in to bullies, as JohnM would prefer, never works.

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I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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The flaws in the sun’s arguments are massive, the evil people seem to have found an excuse not to cover our sport. I can’t understand why they would do such a thing.

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12 minutes ago, weloveyouwakefield2 said:

The flaws in the sun’s arguments are massive, the evil people seem to have found an excuse not to cover our sport. I can’t understand why they would do such a thing.

Cos they are scumbags...maybe?


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7 hours ago, POR said:

nothing went wrong scumbags banned from anfield end of story

the scumbags used the ban as an excuse to stop reporting on rugby league

nothing to put right  scumbags banned from anfield end of story

Ignorance is bliss, eh? 


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I find the argument on a forum that posters' views don't matter telling and intriguing. Talk of matching demographics and our sport would only ring true if our sport was covered sufficiently rather than grudgingly. We always seem to be cursed with administrations that are terrified of rocking the boat. Which for a sport that beached the rugby yawnion yatch in 1895 and stillremains unfirgiven.

I feel that, like too much on here, we fall into, those who will stand up and be counted and those who'll wave the white flag before the stuff even begins.


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Of course posters views matter, even when they are not your views. 

Reference to the white flag is unfair to those who wave it when joining the bandwagon of bigotry and ignorance. 


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2 hours ago, weloveyouwakefield2 said:

The flaws in the sun’s arguments are massive, the evil people seem to have found an excuse not to cover our sport. I can’t understand why they would do such a thing.

I think ultimately for all the excuses and the charade this is what it ultimately boils down to. This is a nice easy excuse for the Sun to cut costs and drop it's Rugby League coverage, as other newspapers have done. Everything else is smoke and mirrors in my opinion.

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No true football fan or Rugby League fan would buy The Sun.

No intelligent person would but The Sun either.

If a national newspaper doesn't cover Rugby League, Rugby League fans shouldn't buy it and encourage family and friends to do likewise.

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Any contraction in the coverage of the sport should be applauded apparently. 

Who needs the media onside when the sport is so firmly centred and prominent in the public psyche.

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4 minutes ago, Manx RL said:

Any contraction in the coverage of the sport should be applauded apparently. 

Who needs the media onside when the sport is so firmly centred and prominent in the public psyche.

Indeed, it's a strange outlook. The sport needs all the publicity it can get.

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2 hours ago, JohnM said:

Ignorance is bliss, eh? 

Ignorance is certainly something the Sun and its readers would know about. 

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35 minutes ago, Damien said:

Indeed, it's a strange outlook. The sport needs all the publicity it can get.

No, it doesn't. We don't provide Breitbart or The Daily Stormer with media accreditation.

There is no wailing over the fact that buzzfeed or the huffington post didn't cover magic. There are so many options we have the power and can choose. 

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4 minutes ago, scotchy1 said:

No, it doesn't. We don't provide Breitbart or The Daily Stormer with media accreditation.

There is no wailing over the fact that buzzfeed or the huffington post didn't cover magic. There are so many options we have the power and can choose. 

What a truly bizarre outlook.

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4 minutes ago, Damien said:

What a truly bizarre outlook.

Its truly bizarre that The Sun should any sway whatsoever in where we hold the Magic Weekend. 

 

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